i think GTX2, 1600 GT c6, 2000 GT c8 are hyper.. (also 1866 c7 6gb).. other maybe are gone
best choice from pricepoint/perfomance is 1600GT. best are GTX2 of course :) 2000gt c8 are just slower than 1600GT.
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i think GTX2, 1600 GT c6, 2000 GT c8 are hyper.. (also 1866 c7 6gb).. other maybe are gone
best choice from pricepoint/perfomance is 1600GT. best are GTX2 of course :) 2000gt c8 are just slower than 1600GT.
Thank you m8 :-)
Think ill grap the CAS6 version when i get the money
And what about this one?
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=...nel-Memory-kit
2133 C8 should be hyper also?
The Dominator GT 2000Mhz C8-9-8-24 are not Hypers be careful!
hello guys,
i got a new system with phenom 2 X6 and biostar 870+ board and
i'm using gskill eco sticks @ 800mhz with 1,45Vdimm
the nb is running @ 2400mhz @ 1,15v
ht @ 1920mhz
and cpu @ 3600mhz (240x15) 1,3vcore
i tried to config the settings for the memory in the bios as good as i can but i want to ask
here for some (fine) tuning for the timings and settings, so i post the
relevant bios screens. it would be awesome if somebody got some tips
to improve my settings!
http://tobias.ownagi.com/phenomram2.jpg
http://tobias.ownagi.com/phenomram.jpg
thanks so far
Can anyone comment on OCZ OCZ3P1600C6LV4GK? It sounds like PSC to me? DDR1600 6-8-6 1.65v :shrug:
But then I'm seeing someone running 6-6 5-24 at DDR1424 1.52v... Is that possible for PSC?
flips, lower tras and trfc 0 to 3 will be nice. Try to see if tras 18 and trfc 90ns is stable. if not, increase till it's stable.
That is what they are PSC BUT the OCZ3P1333C6LV(A)4GK is MICRON the (A) in the perfix stands for ANIMAL....Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
Remember they are 2000mhz bin and Tony at OCZ told me that they will do 1600@ Cas6 so I got 8GB of the memory when it was dirt cheap and it will do 1600mhz with no problem at 6-6-6-24 @1.68v
Thinking about going back to AMD (1090T / CHIV) but struggling with RAM at the moment due to lack of availability for certain things (e.g. GT's C6).
From trawling through here, not much around for 1600~ that have decent IC's. Checked a few sites that list IC's for Hypers but no availability from sites I use.
Anyone recommend (or know a UK stockist of Hyper's) what would be worthwhile grabbing in their stead? Been looking at the below.
Kingston HyperX T1 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 12800C8 (1600MHz) Dual-Channel (KHX1600C8D3T1K2/4GX) (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-076-KS)
Corsair Dominator 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 12800C7 (1600MHz) Dual-Channel (CMP4GX3M2C1600C7) (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=8&subcat=1517)
OCZ Reaper Low-Latency 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 12800C6 (1600MHz) Dual-Channel (OCZ3RPR1600C6LV4GK) (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=8&subcat=1517)
Unsure whether to consider Patriot RAM as I have never used it before!
Cheers,
Mek.
none of them are hypersQuote:
Originally Posted by Mekoa
Aye thats my issue. If I can't get the best, I need the next best thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barr3l Rid3r
May just wait for GT C6's to come back in stock/be available. Unsure if theyll have the Hyper IC's though.
Do you bench ? if not go with a nice PSC kit... your board loves the Gskills ( they are made for it !!)
Did a small comparison here : Flares vs Hypers
Not a huge bencher, Ill do a fair bit of testing around OC but wont hardcore bench. Those should be ideal.
Ironically I found Flare's nowhere except on Amazon.. never thought of checking there.
Dom GT 1600 C6-6-6 are the second best hypers "available", but they won't be available again, so don't count on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mekoa
you should go w/ Supertalents. they are Hypers and still possible to find them brand new.
Any Supertalent from 2000 to 2200Mhz using Cas7 or 8 are Hypers.
Nooooo :(, i bought it. F*ck:down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barr3l Rid3r
Sorry,I don't know what it is, but they are good also, a bit cheaper than 8-8-8, that was like $270 for 2x 2GB.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
Some guy posted here about them, they seems good but cant go lower than 9 on trcd.
no , its ok, only I made again mistake, second "bad" choice in RAM :)
I am having a few issues with my setup. Everything was working perfectly with 4GB of RAM with the settings below, but once i added another 4GB, the computer became unstable. It's not unstable right away, only after i have used it for a long time (it BSODs usually).
If i turn on the PC and use it for like 2-3 hours, everything is fine, but if i let it on for more time or play a game for ~1hour or so, it will eventually BSOD. Can this be caused by memory temperatures, they do heat up a bit after a while playing games?
If not, what do you think may be causing instability once i added the other 4GB? System is as described in the sig, RAM is GSKill Trident PC3-12800 8-8-8-24. I have PMed leeghoofd before, he was very kind and helped me quite a lot, but the system is still not 100% stable - Any help is appreciated.
Thank you!
BIOS Pics:
http://www.tech-caffe.com/gfx/bios1.jpg
http://www.tech-caffe.com/gfx/bios2.jpg
http://www.tech-caffe.com/gfx/bios3.jpg
http://www.tech-caffe.com/gfx/bios4.jpg
Lower NB and HT voltage to 1.25
Drop NB multi one notch
Drop HT link to 2000 region
Up CPU NB to 1.275
Loosen ram timings to 8-8-8-24
Set command rate 2T
Once again, thanks a lot - Under testing now :)
hi,
maybe, someone can help me.
what kind of "chips" are on the following rams and what is the maximum (24/7) vdimm for them ?
are there overclocking results ?
is it possible to reach 1600mhz 6-6-6-xx with adaquate vdimm ?
my hardware is asus crosshair 4 formula and a x6 1090T
greetings
H.
Specifications recruitment OCZ PC3-12800 AMD Black Edition Ready CL7 Dual Channel Memory Kit:
Serial Number: OCZ3BE1600LV4GK;
Category: AMD Black Edition Ready;
Memory Type: DDR3 PC3-12800 Unbuffered;
Total: 4 GB (two 240-pin DIMM-module capacity of 2048 MB each);
Operating frequency: 1600 MHz;
Timings: CL 7-7-7-24 (CAS-TRCD-TRP-TRAS);
Supply voltage: 1,65 V;
Cooling system: Passive using the original black radiator Black Edition Ready XTC Heatspreader;
Warranty: Lifetime.
corsair dominator gt cl8-8-8-24-1t hyper:D
drop your cpu down to about 3.6-3.7 and you will be smoking in low clock 32m.......for higher than 3.6 to 3.7 cpu speeds however.....6-6-6 at high speeds is king.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsan
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=431
insane, very good fot 2000 c8 gtQuote:
Originally Posted by tsan
hi,
can I expect similar results like e.g. tsan with this rams:
Dominator GT 2000Mhz 4GB (CMG4GX3M2A2000C8) (maybe elpida ver.2.1)
on asus crosshair 4 formula and x6 1090t ?
If your not afraid to put volts to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hirogen
I imagine that would not be 24/7 settings knowing elpida ;)
what should be good 24/7 settins for this rams ?Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Anything over 3.8 gig cpu is going to benefit best with ram around 1800 6-6-6 at no more than 1.72v to ram to extend its lifetime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hirogen
Which mobo? DIMM voltage? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tsan
quoting tsan from hwbox.gr :D
its msi 890fxa gd70 and 1.825 vdimm:)
My Elpida hyper can reach 6-6-5-15 1T at 1600 (2000 / 7-7-8-21) at 1.7V. But one day suddenly it died.................:(
The model was G.SKILL Perfect Storm 6GB Triple kit - I used it on AMD 890FX, used only two, reserved one for emergency use.
(Fast review on that memory: http://udteam.tistory.com/123)
(The review is written in Korean - sorry for that, but I'm sure everyone is able to understand it via screenshots :D)
Just like mine 2000MHz CL8 old kingston kit can do 6-5-5-15 1T 1600 but this kit needs 1.725-1.75v to get it pass 32M superpi32M.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGLee
Was ur kit GMH-e or NMH-e?
I don't know cause I've never taken heat-spreader off. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by SeMbEr
mine 2000c8 corsair can do ~1840 6-6-5-17 @ 1.82v :D on asus c4e
fed them with 1.93v to see what will happen but cant stabilize them @ 1600 5-6-5 :(
Wow 1.93V is quite a lot for Hypers i think! Not degraded after that?
nah, hypers aren't that fragile.
i've a set of kingston that run at least 200 hours (most of them with intel 1366) at 1.95 volt in the past year and till now no degrading or dead stick.
tsan, which bios of the MSI 890FXA-GD70 did you used?
funny how kingston hypers are so much betterQuote:
Originally Posted by Mafio
i pumped upto 1.9v in mine n there were are good as day 1 ti'll i sold em
thanks tsan, this WE i will retry the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsan
is this a Good/ Bad/ OK RAM for AMD?
Super Talent 1600 9-9-9-25 but i'm running it at 8-8-8-25-1T
http://i.imgur.com/TaH3K.png
boot time seems to be affected with timings?
http://i.imgur.com/JI7r0.jpg
How much ram is this? For 2x4gb its... ok. for 2x2gb its meh.
Same as here, I think you can go further.Quote:
Originally Posted by duron
Super Talent 1600Mhz C8 BULL3T - Limited by B4RR3L
http://i53.tinypic.com/fbgn40.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/2ppzuag.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/30sjcja.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/15fk37b.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/2s159ur.jpg
@Barr3l Rid3r
yeah almost the same with the heat spreader
@liberato87
nice speeds
Liberato, nice, how did you find 1T cmd rate RAM? Thats what im looking for in my next upgrade.
All (pretty much all) ram runs 1T. DDR3 is very different than DDR2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poci
DDR3-2022 6-6-6-18 validation in my sig is 1T.
Nice!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by liberato87
What DRAM Voltage?
Any idea on which chips are on this one:
F3-17000CL9D-4GBXMD Cl 9-10-9
Link:
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=367
1.65v (this kit is rated from 1,55v to 1,75v)Quote:
Originally Posted by PatRaceTin
1840mhz 7 7 7 21 @ 1.65v is memtest stable 300%.
I will not give to much voltage to this elpida hyper kit
That set should be capable of much higher than 1840 at 7-7-7. Is it just the X6 IMC that's limiting you?Quote:
Originally Posted by liberato87
In fact, those A-data kits were generally close to the GTX2 in overclocking performance... wouldn't surprise me if you could do 1850 6-6-6 with 1.7V or less.
Those adata kits were not generally close to GTX2.Quote:
Originally Posted by bassplayer
Worse than the SuperTalent 2200 C8, you could get probably 1700 6-6-6 out of them
I've heard the Mushkin Redline DDR3 1600 @ 7-8-7-24 can go down to 6-6-6-15 @ 1.85v @ 1600 or OC up to 2133 @ 9-10-9-20. I'm not sure which would be the better way to go for an AMD setup though.
Err...what are they rated?Quote:
Originally Posted by quicksilver98
Newer AMD CPU's get really touchy after 1.75-1.8v, week (about) 1010 and back CPUs (quads only) are immune from this effect. Thuban X6's can not do 2133 stable anyway...unless you are really lucky, do a lot of tinkering, have an amazing IMC and Crosshair V for example you might get near 2100.
Only good thing I've ever seen from the Supertalent 2200 C8 kit was Eva's work with them after binning through ~12 sticks to find three good ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
I would not set higher voltage.. I was just searching a stable daily use.Quote:
Originally Posted by bassplayer
as someone said, thuban do not like very much ram >2000 mhz. not easy to get stable (higher cpu-nb vcore also).
with nb at 2800-3000 it is better 1600 6-6-6 or 1800 7-7-7.
I've also a 2x2gb dominator gt 1600 c6 rev 2.1 (elpida hyper)
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2...h301003.th.png
fully stable without higher voltages on the cpu-nb
They are rated at 1600 7-8-7-24 @ 1.65v I haven't tried to push them much because I think its pointless on my 955BE I was saving them for the BD chip. So right now they are at the default. My 955BE tops out at 4.2 from what I can tell at 1.5v I wanna try to get it down to 1.475v Maybe I will tinker with the chips and see what I can get them down to.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
If you wanted I can show you 1800 6-6-6 on AMD platform...albiet at a high voltage. I got 2000 6-6-6 through sandra @ 1.9v on my 2000 C7 sticks. My 2000 C7 sticks are still a good .06-.07v behind what GTX2 can do. I have not seen an ADATA kit better than my ProjectX kit, which does 1800 6-6-6-18 at 1.71v.Quote:
Originally Posted by bassplayer
The ADATA's are typically worse, one person I know used them on AMD here in the forum and he had to lax to 6-7-6 for 1600.
Hondacity went around claiming they were amazing for a while, tried to correct me when I said they were made up of old stock (all hyper are old stock :rolleyes: ) ...they are nothing special, some MNH-E some MGH-E, all old and dont clock well.
I used A-DATA too and my max was 1700 MHZ 7-7-6...more was not possible full stable....GSkill and PSC are diferent story :) (have RipjawsX and Flare kits)
1700??for the 2200 A-DATAs.Don`t wanna be impolite but don`t you think this is a little bit less?If you mean DDR3-1700@stock voltageQuote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
than I get it wrong,pardon.
Seen someone did DDR3-1806 CL6-6-6-18 @1.69v(32M) on 890FX.
Unfortunately one of my pair is defective(got it this way),but i get another one of 4Gb soon.Don`t have a good CL6 Plattform myself,with 1.75v I achieved 1153Mhz CL8-8-8-30 32M on P55.
Best sticks I've seen outside if GTX2s were NCSpec's A-Data 2200's which were flashes to GTX2 SPD and were almost as good as his GTX2s. He ran 1900 6-6-6 for quite a while if I recall. I'll have to ask him for voltages and the like.
I meant 1700 at 1.7v. Stock voltage is up to 1.75v on these sticks so 1700 at stock voltage I suppose is easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by K.Machine
chew* and MSIMAX tested a kit and it wouldnt pull 1800 6-6-6- either. Trash.
Sure, looks like some people got lucky. I can do 1800 6-6-6-18 @ 1.69v on 890FX too, on my STT 2000 C7 I believe.
In fact, here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ight=ADATA+XPG
1800 CL6-6-6 at 1.75v on intel equals close to 1.8v on AMD I believe...not impressive. I'm not totally sure about hyper but PSC on intel needs a LOT less voltage than PSC on AMD.
Hey guys!Tiny question..I've bought today a G.skill kit (16000CL9-4GBRH) and trying to find a sweet spot..Right now I'm on 1600MHz 7-7-7-20 1.66v..It passed memtest with 1.65v but I left the pc open for about 2 hours and when I came back a bsod was waiting for me :( I also tried 1600 6-7-6 1.68v (memtest passed) but I thought of staying on the safe side..Does anybody know what IC's are on these modules?Most importantly, can anybody help me on the bios settings for best stability/low timmings? (Gigabyte 990XA-UD3)..Thanks a million :)
Memtest86 is useless for windows stability.
Prime95 blend for four to eight hours should do the trick.
If 6-7-6 doesnt pass and 7-7-7 doesnt pass but 6-8-6 passes you have some revision of PSC. I'm pretty sure those kits are PSC anyway.
Thank you! :) And if it does pass I suppose it has BBSE like some guys say?
yes, PSC has a hard time doing 6-7-6 and 7-7-7 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by gregorisvas
Actually, I looked up the model number and those should be BBSE. Didn't realize what model you were talking about there.
Yeah I think it's kinda old.But I found a god-forsaken kit and I bought it :P
Anyone know any good 8gb (2x4gb) sticks? I know the 4gb (2x2gb) are best for benching, but I'm looking for 24/7 build that could use some good 2x4gb sticks.
I wouldn't mind having some of these.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolk
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231431
It seems like Ripjaws are the only way to go with AMD atm, if you want more than 4gb.
Correction. Hynix BFR is the way to go on amd if you want 4gb sticks.
Can be found on more than just Ripjaws. Corsair vengenace (v 5.11) is one of them.
im running 4x2gb Kingston hyperX 2133's @ 1600 6-8-6-24 1.65v. any one know what these have in them for the ic's?
Do you know which Ripjaw sticks have them as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by eXa
Stay away of TeamGroup Xtreem LV 2000 4Gb kit's, yes they will do 2000 9-11-9-27-T1 but thats it at least in AMD Phenom II 1090T.
This phenom have nice memory controller, 2200 with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231462 kit (2 sticks in use).
1600 7-9-7-24 T1 1.65v = FAIL
1600 8-10-8-24 T1 1.65v = FAIL
1600 9-11-9-27 T1 1.65v = PASS
1600 9-11-9-27 T1 1.6v = PASS
2000 9-11-9-27 T1 1.65v = PASS
2050 9-11-9-27 T1 1.65v = FAIL
2050 9-11-9-27 T1 1.7v = FAIL
They come with Hynix BZR chips (teamgroup kit).
Anyone have idea if they tolerate 1.75volts without degrading?
No idea if they work better in Intel setups since i dont have atm time to test them in i7 2600k machine.
My Kingston HyperX sticks with Hyper ICs are running very good with my Asus Crosshair V 990FX.
They're doing more than DDR3-1800 with CL6 timings easily^^
906 MHz @ 6-6-5-15 22 1t @ 1.73v - 32m
http://www.abload.de/thumb/906po73.png
929 MHz @ 6-6-5-15 22 1t @ 1.76v - 1m
http://www.abload.de/thumb/929irpo.png
I got -almost- the same result..I was just testing/learning the MOBO so no detailed screenshot.. :(
1090T (all cores enabled) 4GHz (20*200)
RAM 1600MHz 6-6-5-18
Everything else (nb,ht etc..) stock..Anyway..Hypers seem like the best choice for AMD rigs imo :S
i am sure that hypers are the best for amd! :clap:
Hypers were best for deneb, thuban does better with psc.
It appears Llano is partial to psc as well........
I go strictly by measured/calculated performance.
Deneb hypers
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file.../lrg_deneb.jpg
Thuban PSC
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/memcontro...ing/thuban.jpg
Llano PSC
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/Llano/LLC%20competitor.jpg
Llano should overtake both deneb and thuban easily if the cpu was at sub 4500.
thuban psc need 2200mhz @ 797 and also +200mhz cpu-nb bump to be same as 1870mhz 666 hypers? i think hypers are hard to argue for thuban especially since thuban imc isnt guaranteed 2200mhz ram :shrug:
i still want to see how hypers rip on llano with integrated gpu disabled :D
FANTASTIC results!! exactly what ram? have you tried any other hyper kits on that cpu?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spcial
Ahhh but you forget, Hypers on thuban lose 10 secs at same speed's run on deneb ;) We've already been through this before.......Quote:
Originally Posted by crazydiamond
Same identical settings with hypers
Deneb 10:40 http://www.hwbot.org/submission/1028...in_40sec_422ms
Thuban 10:50 http://www.hwbot.org/submission/1026...in_50sec_281ms
Makes the 200 mhz NB difference a moot point.
10 secs can not be had from 200 mhz NB so in order for thuban to be matching deneb there is only one conclusion..........Thuban is faster with PSC.
As far as hypers on Llano at least on the UD4 they are not going to do what you think or wish they will do.
These are 2x2 GB Kingston HyperX 2000 CL8. SPD says they're from 04/10, so I think there are MGH-E on it!Quote:
Originally Posted by crazydiamond
The mainboard is just two weeks young so i didn't try a lot of but I also have tested my 2x2 GB G.Skill Perfect Storm 2200 CL8 and they ran very equal!
I think in the next weeks or maybe months i will post further results with my Elpida Hyper kits...
Basic stuff with Kingston:
735 MHz @ 5-5-5-15 22 1t @ 1.66v - 32m
http://www.abload.de/thumb/736rrpg.png
765 MHz @ 5-5-5-15 22 1t @ 1.71v - 1m
http://www.abload.de/thumb/7656r3q.png
has anyone tried the G.Skill Flare 2000Mhz CL7 kits for amd? it was made specifically for the P2 x6.
I wanted to get this kit but new-egg is out of stock, can't find it anywhere else.
They don't produce them any more i think, but they run very good on AMD.
stunned_guy from Hardwarluxx Germany tried them for benching and over 900 mhz 6-8-6 or 1000 mhz 7-9-7 were no problem.
http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=920cl6xtg1.jpg
http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=1028cl7scms.jpg
I read through the first half of this thread and my eyes feel like dropping out of my sockets, so forgive me if this did get asked and answered :\
When buying kits online and not having the option to know certain things like production date, revision etc, how does a person know what IC they have? I'm looking at these kits and I personally am uncertain as to which they could even possibly posses :(
F3-12800CL6D-4GBPI
6-8-6-24 1.6V
F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO
7-8-7-24 1.35V
F3-12800CL6D-4GBXH (Ripjaws X w/ Black heatsink, I think = XH)
6-8-6-24 1.5V
F3-12800CL6T-6GBPI
6-8-6-20 1.6V
F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
7-8-7-24 1.6V
OCZ3RPR2000CL7LV4GK
7-9-7-30 1.65V
OCZ3RPR1600C6LV4GK
6-8-6-24 1.65V
The goal is to have a kit that (hopefully) will do 2000MHz with tighter timings still than most of the stuff on the market. Usage for the memory is for review systems (AMD) with Thuban currently, Llano in route, and Bulldozer when it's finally released. Which yes, I also realize the scarcity of PSC/Hyper equipped modules :\
Thanks!
PSC chips aren't rare, in fact all of the kits you listed are probably using PSC chips. If you want a kit that can do 1000MHz, buy a kit that is binned for 1000MHz, or you'll end up with a kit that can only do 1000MHz at very relaxed timings or higher voltage. Check some reviews and tests of the kits rated 800MHz 6-8-6, that's actually a mediocre bin for PSC, and binning is very important with those chips.
tRCD = CL+2 is like modus operandi for PSC chips. If you want 2000 and tight timings you're best off with 2000 rated kit as Dan suggests, and then tighten the latencies yourself. With lower rated kit you probably won't get both especially for 24/7 stability.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...-X6&highlight=Quote:
Originally Posted by halofanman
Don_Dan is 100% correct, I picked up a Ripjaws X 1600 6-8-6 1.5v kit to try out on AMD...needs 1.6v to run 6-8-6 at 1600...or did it run 6-8-6 at all? ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
The kit doesn't do 2000 7-9-7 or 8-9-8 at all on AMD, tried up to 1.8v under 110CFM fan, not even boot for 7-9-7, 8-9-8 boots sometimes. 7-10-7 boots fine up to 2030 albeit 1.7v, 8-10-8 however goes all the way to IMC's limit.
Hypers are still usable...but no high freq.
I just traded a Hyper kit for 4GB of PIS 2133 7-10-7 1.65v...
Yea, I did find that out. I've been doing lots of reading and what I had found out at the time of my posting had given me the impression that PSC ICs of Hyper clocking caliber were also extinct. I did find out that isn't the case though and my Kingmax kit (2200 10-10-10) uses PSC also, but it was misbehaving and wouldn't do the advertised speeds for the owner of the site I edit for, so they aren't exactly a shining sample. Most I've been able to muster is 8-9-8 @ 1833. Not matter what I've tried, 1900 or 2000 won't go. Heavily playing around with Drive strengths did get me a few POSTs under 1900, but it wasn't long before it locked :\ I really appreciate the info though. I figured that capable of 6-8-6 @ 1600 1.6V still would've had the capability of higher speeds at reasonable timings, but it's good to know that isn't necessarily the case! Was about to nab a G.Skill Pi kit for $50 rated for 6-8-6-24 1600 @ 1.6, and there's a Ripjaws X (black heatsink) I could get as well with same specs but is 1.5V.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
Yea, I tried to get the site owner to nab them back when released, but no dice :( Alas, it is virtually impossible of being found for sale anywhere, and the site I did find has them for a fair bit o' cash (for me at least) :S You selling either of yours, or I assume you've long since abandoned them huh? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by hiwa
If you aren't after benching, I'd snag a nice 8gb for cheap and see how sheer quantity stomps a few mhz more or timings less in the dirt. ;)
Yea, but the thing is, they are for benching. To a degree at least, as I'll be using them to do reviews for AMD Motherboards (Llano and Zambezi) :\ I'll have to do a search to try and find a comparison of module capacity performance gains, and hopefully it'll include modules of lesser latency, but it wouldn't necessarily have to be included. Unfortunately all I have are 1GB modules, so I could only compare 2x1GB vs 2x2GB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erklat
Okay, I missed it was benching stuff.
That's quite alright :D I appreciate the info either way :) It brings up a valid point as well, since 8GB is really coming into the market. It will have to be considered for it's performance worth for the exact reason you indicated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erklat
Chew: have u time (or chance) try all three chips at the same clocks? Im curious, if Llano will be really better than Deneb/Thuban or not - at example 3990-4000 Mhz :)
2200 10-10-10 is not a stellar bin as well, although I'm surprised they're that bad. If you want to try one of the cheaper kits, go for it, but don't expect too much from them. You might find some lucky sticks especially on older kits, but if you want very good PSC ICs, check out G.Skill's 2133 7-10-7 or 2200 7-10-10 kits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Formula350
He has done that already, at those clocks with high memory frequency, Llano is faster than Thuban/Deneb in 32M.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
In spite of the fact don_dan is right, like most of the time :p: I´m surprised by the fact that it took so long before people realized OC-mems are extinguishing :D - by the way I would never trade in good hypers for PSC, even good PSC are no match for good BBSE, this would be different thing. If these high clocks I´ve seen on new 990 are read correct at timings is another question for me as AMD Noob, friend of mine tested highest ram divider on 990 Crosshair five and foung out that timings read 6-9-6 or 7-9-7 for example had all same bandwidth- testing on other plattform fact showed that timings were always 9-9-9 and the lower cas for example which was put in Bios and read by CPUZ and so on wasn´t really set
It depends on the platform...Quote:
Originally Posted by websmile
On SB for example Hypers have huge compatibility problems and only some sticks run, not many sticks will bench 2133+ CL7-7-7 or 7-8-7 while high bin PSC might do 2200 7-9-7...the difference is not large, unless youre using GTX2 or something, that costs twice as much. I hear some of those dont even do well.
On AMD I can't even boot 2000 with Hypers, (though I validated DDR3-2133) however PSC hum right along up to 2060. 1800 6-6-6 gets beat or is very close to 2000+ at CL7...
As said, AMD is not my special case, but on SB I can tell that I have 24GB of Hypers that run flawless even on UD5 and Maximus4 Gene, I always have and had PSC, but htese were beaten easily by my BBSE, where even very good PSC had TRCD limit of 9 under 1100, which is normal, so that I could only run 7-10-7-27 above 1100 to BCLK-limit my BBSE on G.Skill 2133 C8 for example did 1150+ 7-9-7-24 easily at 1,65V. So I stay with the sentence that I wouldn´t trade hyper for PSC, but accept your better knowledge on AMD, there it might be different
Where I can find it? Thx.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
I had contacted them last night about Flares (if they planned to resurrect the line with Llano and BD coming out), and if they did anything like Spire where they contact a reseller for sending out review samples (I found a Flare kit, but @ $168). Got back to me today saying the Flares are in real short supply, but they could supply the RipjawsX 2133 @ 9-10-9. Didn't want to at all sound picky or ungrateful, but mentioned seeing the Pi modules doing well with AMD, if there are any of them available. Yet, if they aren't then that's cool and the 9-10-9 would still work great to help find the limits on boards :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
The Kingmax indeed might not be an awesome bin, but that's also not too surprising. Their "Nano" tech used for the modules and cooling seems to work quite well. Sure, all I've got for comparison are old D9JNL OCZ Reapers (2GB 1600 7-7-7 1.9v) and some 1GB Nanya 1066 7-7-7 ECC modules, but the Kingmax run very cool even under extreme voltage (DIMM voltage on this board is higher than BIOS, oops! PSC likes 2V, right? lol Thankfully I wasn't running them long at that). TigerDirect has (till the end of today, Aug 31st) PNY XLR8 2x2GB 1600@8-8-8 for $19 after MIR, 2 kits per rebate. A friend is building an AM3 but wouldn't have funds for about a month, so I nabbed 2 kits of them heh I don't know what they run, I suspect Hynix? Either way though, they will get the job done for him. He's probably going to buy both from me, but I said I'd test all four together to make sure they'd run happily in 4x2GB (since I'm going to sell him my 890FX Deluxe3).
AMD likes PSC over D9JNL too.
Actually I believe D9JNL works quite okay on AMD and really well on Deneb...I know GTS fly on Deneb compared to psc. I can get 2000 CL9 on Thuban with GTS.
I can't believe JNL being rated at 1.9v though, most kits rated 1.9+ I thought are GTS/GTR...
As far as Pi modules working well with AMD? I wouldn't go for the 1600 C6...2000-2100 8-10-8 isn't all that impressive for PSC. It works, sure...
I've got some Pi 2133 C7-10-7 coming my way, I was wanting 2200 C7 Pi/Ripjaws but settled for that. actually the owner had 8GB but traded four to me for STT 2200 C8
If you can find them, I think the 2000 C8 dominators will do well on AMD...