oppainter can stick clock up to 3.2ghz if the need arises.....
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oppainter can stick clock up to 3.2ghz if the need arises.....
Well here's where we're at...
A P4EE 3.6/ES and an FX-51 are "about even". Advantage AMD, as the 3.6EE is really "vaporware". Now who's got more left? Macci at 4560, Opp at 3060. The highest LN2 suicide shot of an FX is about 3.3gHz. The highest suicide shot of a LN2 EE is 5.3ghz. I think the P4 may have more "left", but a retail 16x EE might not...
Effectively by comparing a 3.6EE, we're looking forward to the FX-53, 'cuz they will compete in the marketplace. After that, AMD needs mHz...the San Diego, if the .09 process goes well, should hit 3.5 on hard core phase change...with that...Northwood is OFFICIALLY dead. Possibility Prescott EE...hmmmm.
But, I regress. I think if Opp can squeeze another 100mHz out, he can bust 31K and go maybe 31.3K. Now Macci....not sure. Obviously the 4560 seems like that's about the limit on KILLER cooling. But Macci has LN2 experience...with LN2, 4800mHz is WAY possible. In that case, 32K is also.
Has anyone noticed that Opp and Macci are in their own world, as the rest of us are rowing away in the bowels of the ORB? Now I'm 2000+ points back in '01!!! And 3rd place is over 1000 points behind...
C
now now... im about 23.7k under...
really... i think macci has a good chance at winning this round. he's been popping these scores one after the other from 30.2 - 30.8 k over a period of 2 days.
sure, OPP took his time before because he was already in #1, but unless macci out of nowhere hits a wall(which i doubt), he can down 31k, and maybe even significantly higher(31.5k+).
the japenese have had both the fx-51 and p4EE under ln2, and as charlie said, macci has more headroom with his p4EE. he is about half a ghz under the top clocks, while OPP is about 200+mhz under.
exciting times for us 7k'ers... ;)
then again, that aint half bad with what i have...
Well charlie his CPU is running -90c load. -120c is as far as you can go before the CPU stops working properly. I don't think that can get him +250mhz benchable speed IMO.
Battle of the titans and very close too ...
This has been the most intense and enjoyable Orb battle for a long time, I hope it goes on a bit longer.
Whoever triumphs, macci and Opp have really now pulled out a gap on other folks, at least for the moment it seems ( not being disrepectful to other guys who also do massive scores here of course) .
And done in the right spirit as well .. cheers guys
:toast:
Regards
Andy
Yeah Charlie... I'm 14k4 behind :D
None of my benchmarks are doubled though, but it won't take long before it happens... ;)
Easily. LN2 and 2,1 V Vcore. I think it's possible to run benchmarks at 4800 - 4900 MHz clock frequency with the CPU macci has.Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
Well charlie his CPU is running -90c load. -120c is as far as you can go before the CPU stops working properly. I don't think that can get him +250mhz benchable speed IMO.
BTW, that -120C limit is not correct. It's more like -125 to -135 C :)
http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/cpu/p4_32c/ln2/
Thats the kind of statement taht push people like OPP and Macci...... nothing is impossible to these guys.......Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
Well charlie his CPU is running -90c load. -120c is as far as you can go before the CPU stops working properly. I don't think that can get him +250mhz benchable speed IMO.
Its just that when you're that deep into the negatives the gains diminish rapidly....i'm no expert on LN2 but it just doesn't seem right to gain 300mhz benchable from that...
ops a pretty lucky guy.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...277#post284277Quote:
Originally posted by pik-ard v1.1
the japenese have had both the fx-51 and p4EE under ln2, and as charlie said, macci has more headroom with his p4EE. he is about half a ghz under the top clocks, while OPP is about 200+mhz under.
OPPAINTER at 3.2ghz
Yup pretty much so.Quote:
Easily. LN2 and 2,1 V Vcore. I think it's possible to run benchmarks at 4800 - 4900 MHz clock frequency with the CPU macci has.
At the moment I can do SuperPi 1M at 4640MHz w/ 2.05V (measured from mosfet, CPU-Z says its 1.98V) and I'm quite sure that useing LN2 on this chip would make it run stuff at 4800-4900.
btw, the CPU can do 3D at 4.6GHz but my RAM is having problems doing 3d past 253 1:1.
Anyone got any good special mods for P4C800? :D
Macci,
How 'bout 15 x 320, 5:4, DDR512, cas 2, 2,5,2? LN2, 2.1V?? How'd that work??
C
yea, but he says "no bench". ;)Quote:
Originally posted by zabomb4163
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...277#post284277
OPPAINTER at 3.2ghz
Quite Fast of course but show me a mobo that does 3D at 320 5:4 :D
i have one that does it with a 2.4c...... Im not sure if itll do it at 320x15 though....... send me the cascade and the EE and Ill test it out for you:D
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7061591
back to the original topic...
Oppainter is 5 points away from 31k. clicky
id say he can run another test tonight and break it? ;)
oooooooofff nice score! :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :toast:
He ain't done for tonight. Come on OPPAINTER, you're just a HD defragmentation away from 31K+.
yea.. i think he was getting a little worried that macci might take #1 spot from him. :DQuote:
Originally posted by MickeyMouse
wow now that is damm fast :) nice going there OPP
LOL....Damn Eric, you never cease to amaze me!
How the hell do you do it? :D
:toast:
almost 300fps drago high.. :D
Quote:
Originally posted by TheDude
LOL....Damn Eric
How the hell do you do it? :D
:toast:
:D
I smell some Captain Cascade cooling in the mix there....
C
LOL....Opp and the Captains cooling...OMG! :eek:
vaow everything is going toooooo faaaaast do you remember the time that jason quad and naser racing for 27k it wasnt too far away
Nice score Opp ( and CC as well, tag team :) )
Scores are rocketing at the moment, you're right it seemed only yesterday 27K was top dog.
I think that might have scuttled macci's P4, though I'm not going to count him out while the cpu is not reached the limit. Not sure how he is going to work out the memory 1:1 though for 4600+Mhz on the cpu.
Time to order 500 sticks of BH5 and sift through them all for 99th percentile !
;)
Regards
Andy
I'd say... adjust the LOD bias a bit and your nature score goes up, thus lifting his score over 31K (hey it's not cheating, the score counts) :D
FX-51 vs Vaporware 3.6EE!
Still, an exciting battle. ;) :p:
Amazing scores atm. Seemed not too long ago 20K was something to be proud of... now its a mere 66% of what can be had.
Quad @ 29.910
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7350210
Nice score by Quad, and only titled test so I assume he has some more to come, I hope he hits 30k.Quote:
Originally posted by Hallowed
FX-51 vs Vaporware 3.6EE!
Still, an exciting battle. ;) :p:
Amazing scores atm. Seemed not too long ago 20K was something to be proud of... now its a mere 66% of what can be had.
Quad @ 29.910
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7350210
Regards
Andy
PS Unlocked P4's might be vapourware in the USA but in Europe we have them coming out of our ears. Macci has two, and even my grandma has one for playing Soldier of Fortune2 online ;) :p:
Quad will pass 30K like its standing still.
A very underrated overclocker. Doesn't have the cooling to get to 30,800 atm though.
http://www.solidhardware.com/macci/p4ee/ee_vs_fx_3.gif
Looks like someone got some extra GPU speed ? :D
Man 5Marks away from the 31k!
WTF is up with 3dmark these days. First it wont go over 30k with A64 (I'm 9 Marks short of 30k), then it just didn't let me get the missing 23marks I needed to get to the top and now THIS!? 5Marks from 31k. Damn :D
He only had to choose the hottest region on earth to do his benching ..LOL :) you have to take your hat off to that, I can imagine why he went away from air cooling :)Quote:
Originally posted by Hallowed
Quad will pass 30K like its standing still.
A very underrated overclocker. Doesn't have the cooling to get to 30,800 atm though.
At least he uses a chip someone can buy off the shelf to attain these numbers. ;)
Talking about retail off the shelf stuff at this level is complete bollocks ( though no offense :) ) . It's all down to what you can get and what you can make. It's like top fuel dragsters or F1 , you can't go on about how you can't buy those tyres at Kwik fit or the engine from your local Mercedes dealer.
You can want to put limitations on what people use if you wish, but then the class is no longer "unlimited".
Shame.
Regards
Andy
LOL, you ought to go to California ! Everything is bigger over there including the points.Quote:
Originally posted by macci
http://www.solidhardware.com/macci/p4ee/ee_vs_fx_3.gif
Looks like someone got some extra GPU speed ? :D
Man 5Marks away from the 31k!
WTF is up with 3dmark these days. First it wont go over 30k with A64 (I'm 9 Marks short of 30k), then it just didn't let me get the missing 23marks I needed to get to the top and now THIS!? 5Marks from 31k. Damn :D
I know for a fact that Opp eats a 36 inch pizza whilst benching, his cascade is powered from the cigarette lighter on his 500bhp V10 truck ( 2.5mpg during a good run ) and he has 4 tanned blonde Californian ladies just sitting at the end of his bed for when he has finished his benching for the night ....
But don't feel bad about it.
:)
Regards
Andy
btw, P4 EE is actually a tiny bit ahead of the FX if you calculate overall score from the 'system tests' (car hi, lobby low, lobby hi).
P4EE => 11312
FX => 11281
I can get Car hi to over 160FPS too if I run it first but then lobbys will be a bit lower (overall its a bit better not to run Car hi first).
OPP, whats the max peak FPS you've seen so far with the FX? :)
I'm up to 794FPS in lobby low :D
On drago low I've seen only 690 with this system (with A64 I saw 706 there).
With all due respect, there is quite a bit of difference between overclocking, and million dollar+ sponsored motorsport teams. I always had my views that scores should be attained with parts anyone can purchase / create, along with cooling that can run said system without refill. Just my personal tastes.Quote:
Originally posted by zakelwe
He only had to choose the hottest region on earth to do his benching ..LOL :) you have to take your hat off to that, I can imagine why he went away from air cooling :)
Talking about retail off the shelf stuff at this level is complete bollocks ( though no offense :) ) . It's all down to what you can get and what you can make. It's like top fuel dragsters or F1 , you can't go on about how you can't buy those tyres at Kwik fit or the engine from your local Mercedes dealer.
You can want to put limitations on what people use if you wish, but then the class is no longer "unlimited".
Shame.
Regards
Andy
I have all the respect in the world for our current top three, its just that I weigh result validity differently. Not like that matters at all, for the ORB doesnt care, and noone is certainly forced to.
Unlimited, IMO, would be cherry picked / unreleased HW issued from the manufacturer itself + LN2. And tbh, that and its associated WCPUID MAX shots really hold little value to me.
At any rate you know what I'm getting at, as much as I understand your opinion. Agree to disagree I suppose. :|
Yes, I do know what you are getting at and I agree it is all down down to where you feel happy, myself I use LOD on rivatuner as everyone in my nvidia classes can use similar, but if it was right at the top of the orb and the other competitior could not use it, then would I use it ? Not sure....Quote:
Originally posted by Hallowed
With all due respect, there is quite a bit of difference between overclocking, and million dollar+ sponsored motorsport teams. I always had my views that scores should be attained with parts anyone can purchase / create, along with cooling that can run said system without refill. Just my personal tastes.
I have all the respect in the world for our current top three, its just that I weigh result validity differently. Not like that matters at all, for the ORB doesnt care, and noone is certainly forced to.
Unlimited, IMO, would be cherry picked / unreleased HW issued from the manufacturer itself + LN2. And tbh, that and its associated WCPUID MAX shots really hold little value to me.
At any rate you know what I'm getting at, as much as I understand your opinion. Agree to disagree I suppose. :|
My own view that is if you take the time and effort to get something then you should be commended for going that extra mile, whether that is an ES chip or LN2.
Got to rush, have to fill up my cooler box with 16 pints of heavy water. That glow it emits certainly helps me see what I am doing :D
Regards
Andy
I'd be very curious though, what OPP and Macci can achieve without any overclocking, thus @ default speeds... :D
And Macci, I can't speak for OPP but my highest ever framerate was exactly 400 @ Dragon low :D
(pretty 'pathetic' eh?) :D
well, i've seen 630 in car low, 264 in car hi, 702 in drago low, 420 in drago hi, 694 in lobby low, not sure about lobby hi, but it takes off at 340fps, and 306fps in nature. btw, car hi fps never drops below 104.Quote:
Originally posted by Garrett
I'd be very curious though, what OPP and Macci can achieve without any overclocking, thus @ default speeds... :D
And Macci, I can't speak for OPP but my highest ever framerate was exactly 400 @ Dragon low :D
(pretty 'pathetic' eh?) :D
too bad r404a prommie's are not enough to cool the latest hardware these days...:eek:
if i only get car hi over 104 average i am happy :)
Quad, check FM, and FM PM's. :cool:
those scores never cease to amaze me. lod bias adjustment via rivatuner is only for Nvidia cards. I believe opp will hit 31k very soon while quad is gonna smash thru 30k :D
Great Job Quad!!!!Quote:
Originally posted by QuadDamage
well, i've seen 630 in car low, 264 in car hi, 702 in drago low, 420 in drago hi, 694 in lobby low, not sure about lobby hi, but it takes off at 340fps, and 306fps in nature. btw, car hi fps never drops below 104.
too bad r404a prommie's are not enough to cool the latest hardware these days...:eek:
:toast:
C
Nice numbers there :)Quote:
630 in car low, 264 in car hi, 702 in drago low, 420 in drago hi, 694 in lobby low, not sure about lobby hi, but it takes off at 340fps, and 306fps in nature.
Here are the EE peak numbers from all tests:
cars: 638/280 (if I dont run car hi first then its like 264),
dragos: 690/430,
lobbys: 796/360,
Nature: 312
Well what good is getting Car hi to 160FPS if you lose it in Lobby? The rankings are overall score, not single test.Quote:
Originally posted by macci
btw, P4 EE is actually a tiny bit ahead of the FX if you calculate overall score from the 'system tests' (car hi, lobby low, lobby hi).
P4EE => 11312
FX => 11281
I can get Car hi to over 160FPS too if I run it first but then lobbys will be a bit lower (overall its a bit better not to run Car hi first).
OPP, whats the max peak FPS you've seen so far with the FX? :)
I'm up to 794FPS in lobby low :D
On drago low I've seen only 690 with this system (with A64 I saw 706 there).
Are you saying that 2k1 didn't calculate the scores properly? On what basis? Is there a bug in 2k1? Is OPP's score bugged? Is yours? Maybe both? To me, as long as you are both running the same "buggy" program the playing field is level.
To those who consider it cheating to use an ES chip: You are simply wrong! Overclocking is about pushing state-of-the-art hardware to the limits. Whether it is actually able to be purchased in a computer store or not is a separate issue. It's no different than a person who would like to have an FX-51 but could never afford it. For that person the FX-51 is just as out of reach as a P4EE ES. The truth is that anyone can get an ES chip if they want one bad enough. Money and a little effort goes a long way.
I would say that there ARE many people that base what they buy in part on how welll hardware performs on the ORB. In those cases I would caution anybody that thinks their stock P4EE could do what Macci's chip does. Without the higher multis Macci would be where Fugger is.:D
Edit/ Oh, ok. It sounded like you thought OPP's score was higher or your's was lower than it should have been.
BTW: Great job again!:toast:
I dunno you tell me? :DQuote:
Well what good is getting Car hi to 160FPS if you lose it in Lobby?
I was just letting you know what kind of car hi is possible with this chip.
I could get about the same overall score (give or take 10-20Marks) by running car hi first and lobbys after that. Then it would be pretty much identical to what OPPs FX is getting in those tests (maybe 1fps lower car hi and 1-2FPS higher Lobbys).
No. I'm not saying anything like that. Was just doing some 'nice to know' calculations based on the top scores.Quote:
Are you saying that 2k1 didn't calculate the scores properly? On what basis? Is there a bug in 2k1? Is OPP's score bugged? Is yours? Maybe both?
How do you add a score? :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
Very nice.....I just added up your score and you should actually have 30,813. I think you got ripped off by 2 marks!
Every Low Detail frame gets you 10 points, Every High Detail frame gets you 20 points, Every frame in Nature = 20 points.
Simple as that. :cool:
But Car High and Nature give the most "holy §§§§!" points. ;)
:P these guys are insane :P i am not scoring even close to them :P
Macci, what are your mem timings?Quote:
Originally posted by macci
btw, how do i get 23 dang marks more!?? :D
2-2-2-5-TURBO of course :D
No room for improvement there but I think I can push the MHz up a bit still.
Macci, is your description incorrect in your 3DMK03 score? (248fsb = 4062 Mhz??)...or, do the P4C's just read the FSBs' wrong like mine does after 4Ghz? Mine drops down to a multi of 15.275 from 16 and only Cpuz v1.2 reads the correct Mhz.Quote:
Originally posted by macci
2-2-2-5-TURBO of course :D
No room for improvement there but I think I can push the MHz up a bit still.
3DMark03 has a bug reporting the CPU speed once past 4.1GHz. At 4200MHz it will say its 4000MHz, 4500 would be 4300 etc
edit: and the 248FSB there is a boot-up FSB, adjusted it to 304 with Clockgen.
Thanks.....:) I'll stop worrying about it now! :D
EDIT the edit//:Cuz @ 258fsb I get 3940Mhz with out using clockgen.
Well gunna have to go back and try this again tomorrow hopefully.Quote:
Originally posted by macci
btw, P4 EE is actually a tiny bit ahead of the FX if you calculate overall score from the 'system tests' (car hi, lobby low, lobby hi).
P4EE => 11312
FX => 11281
I can get Car hi to over 160FPS too if I run it first but then lobbys will be a bit lower (overall its a bit better not to run Car hi first).
OPP, whats the max peak FPS you've seen so far with the FX? :)
I'm up to 794FPS in lobby low :D
On drago low I've seen only 690 with this system (with A64 I saw 706 there).
At first my card was running at 648 without a hick up, Major Drago scores:)
We had to shut down the cooler for a few minutes and I never got it back to 648.
This time I'll check for highest FPS in the tests.
Macci, when are you going to get an FX ??
OPP
648GPU! :toast:
Major Dragos I bet (let me guess 302FPS in drago hi?) :D
648 GPU might give 9650-9750 in mark03 too.
Good luck with you upcoming bench session.
I'll try to tweak the P4 EE a bit higher :D
At the moment I'm not planning on getting a FX system. Very difficult to find the good parts here.
What was the GPU speed on your current 30995 run?
Card was running at 634.
It's a bummer you won't be running the FX, It would have been nice to get your opinion on the FX,,EE difference.
OPP
I knew macci wasnt gonna get an fx just yet. I personally think its best to wait for socket 939 :banana:
OPP.
Is your SK8V much faster than SK8N? i mean in Car Hi and Lobby Hi?
Long wait for a bencher... To long. So take the banana somewhere else in the meantime.Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
I knew macci wasnt gonna get an fx just yet. I personally think its best to wait for socket 939 :banana:
That is the next logical step. todays mobos have been maxed out. also the new year is less than a week away and to tease you:
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :D
Quad,Quote:
Originally posted by QuadDamage
OPP.
Is your SK8V much faster than SK8N? i mean in Car Hi and Lobby Hi?
Nice 3dmark on the ORB, how about some details on that score.
I just got done replying to ASUS to try and get an SK8N, I don't have one so I don't know the difference. I'll be going for some 940 NF3 testing soon I hope, should have a Leadtek soon.
OPP
I was just thinking.
I wonder if ASUS could come out with bios for the SK8V that had a divider in it with would allow the memory to run like 20MHz above the FSB. This would be the hot item on Via mobos:D
I'll have to ask these guys.
OPP
Why would you wish that? I'd say it'd be faster syncronously or is that different from P4-systems? :confused:
I want it so I can run my memory higher, my AGP is just to high at 256 plus. My memory can probably do more.Quote:
Originally posted by Mathias-K
Why would you wish that? I'd say it'd be faster syncronously or is that different from P4-systems? :confused:
OPP
The via chipset and the regulator would have to support it first wouldn't they?Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I was just thinking.
I wonder if ASUS could come out with bios for the SK8V that had a divider in it with would allow the memory to run like 20MHz above the FSB. This would be the hot item on Via mobos:D
I'll have to ask these guys.
OPP
Word has it that the newest Sk8N BIOS is much better. The one I was using (an old 1002.006 BETA) just crippled the System scores...hence my low 28.7K score @ 613/451! Too bad I don't have the SK8N any more...Quote:
Originally posted by QuadDamage
OPP.
Is your SK8V much faster than SK8N? i mean in Car Hi and Lobby Hi?
C
Well it does support asyn mode so I don't see why not.
OPP
Just got this from Asus,
"I will check the spec. Like SiS chipset, it is possible because chipset supporting asychronous mode. Some chip can not because it support synchrous mode only"
OPP
Well that would be nice.
Which do you think tolerates a higher agp bus, the 5950 or 9800XT?
Yeah, but socket 939 is about half a year away..Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
That is the next logical step. todays mobos have been maxed out. also the new year is less than a week away and to tease you:
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :D
Not sure, but my XT does much higher then my 9800pro, I know this much. :DQuote:
Originally posted by xgman
Which do you think tolerates a higher agp bus, the 5950 or 9800XT?
OPP
not much diffrence between these two bios'es.Quote:
Word has it that the newest Sk8N BIOS is much better. The one I was using (an old 1002.006 BETA) just crippled the System scores...hence my low 28.7K score @ 613/451! Too bad I don't have the SK8N any more...
btw, FX5950 and every nVidia card loves AGP clocks even 95mhz+.
I have noticed that I can clock my 5950 higher with the sk8v than with the sk8n or the leadtek k8nw-pro.
OPP:
Where the heck is the pci/apg lock on the SK8V?
What timings/voltage are you running on Corsair TwinX 3200 RE LL ?
Nvidiot, sorry to say there ain't none. :(Quote:
Originally posted by Nvidiot
OPP:
Where the heck is the pci/apg lock on the SK8V?
What timings/voltage are you running on Corsair TwinX 3200 RE LL ?
Check out www.anandtech.com and look at his socket 940 mb review. They have a really sweet SK8V bios (1002.12 and .18) that have 1/2 mults and all sorts of adjustments. Figures they rave about the board and we cannot get access to the bios they used.
Hey OPP do you have 1002 or just 1001?
This is a chipset limitation, a BIOS cannot magically introduce these.Quote:
Originally posted by Nvidiot
OPP:
Where the heck is the pci/apg lock on the SK8V?
What timings/voltage are you running on Corsair TwinX 3200 RE LL ?
It has been this way with all Via chipsets since they were born.
jason,
thank you for your comparsion. Just as i though, VIA board is quite faster in system tests... but it's slower in Drago's?! do you think it has something to do with unlocked agp bus?
Probably something to do with faster GART driver on NF3 or lower latency...
Looking forward to seein your FX5950+NF3 results. I'm curious myself not that FX5950 is faster than ATI but i'm wondering if it's "optimised" for nVidia chipset...
also jason, make sure it's a "RE" memory not "R". i can tell you it will work even at 4V according to my friend's naser testing. it can do 263fsb 1:1 at around 3.3V rock stable, haven't really tried higher since i didn't want to bench at anything lower than 11.5x multi. But for some reason, 11.5x263 is as fast as 12x252 so it makes me think the overall cpu speed+tight timings is the way to go as the LDT freq. increases with multipler.... i mean come on, 252fsb should be way slower than 263 especially at almost identical cpu speed.
Is ATI ever gonna relese there 64-Bit drivers?! they're kinda slow when it comes to drivers.
strange cos it's not capped for me.Quote:
On thing about vdimm on this is the mod everyone is using on the sk8v is maxing out at 3.3v reardless of VR setting or 3.3v line like its capped off or somehting.. weird...
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Err, wouldnt it be better to bench on a OS which will utilize the full CPU capabilities? Since afterall, it is 64bit
Yeah if you want database server benchis..Quote:
Originally posted by Wardie
Err, wouldnt it be better to bench on a OS which will utilize the full CPU capabilities? Since afterall, it is 64bit
I use 1002.19 not a lot better than 1001. The ½ multi can you get in clockgen or other software. No big deal.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Nvidiot
Check out www.anandtech.com and look at his socket 940 mb review. They have a really sweet SK8V bios (1002.12 and .18) that have 1/2 mults and all sorts of adjustments. Figures they rave about the board and we cannot get access to the bios they used.
Hey OPP do you have 1002 or just 1001?
Nice improvement on MArk03 by OPP
at 9535 now with 648GPU! :toast:
I need to start benching with 9800SE AIW LOL =)
Its clocking a lot better than my XT (SE does 540GPU aircooled).
1. macci is getting an fx but not till the 939 socket comes out.
2. the 9800se, well if he can mod it and slap his prometeia, it could look promising if he can hit 650 on the core
3. isnt OPP now first place in BOTH 2001 and 2003
Isn't the SE slower than the other 9800's at the same speeds? If so, maybe it's something Ati has done on purpose or something.Quote:
Originally posted by macci
I need to start benching with 9800SE AIW LOL =)
Its clocking a lot better than my XT (SE does 540GPU aircooled).
I havn't even heard of the SE myself :D
OPP
ATI SE = Slow edition :p:
he he, must be cheap:DQuote:
Originally posted by cowpuppy
ATI SE = Slow edition :p:
OPP
nope :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
3. isnt OPP now first place in BOTH 2001 and 2003
macci had a backup. well... atleast one... who knows? ;)
@OPP- the SE's are about $30 cheaper then the non-pro's i think.
The 9800SE is basically an equivalent to 9500np with R350 core. Like the 9500 it comes with both 128 and 256 bit bus. On some you can enable the 4 disabled piplelines which makes it a 9800 "non SE" (if it's 256 bit), but from what I've seen it performs worse, unlike the 9500 > 9700.
And "SE" does actually stand for "Slow Edition", doesn't it?
i actually thought it ment "special edition"
but i found this while searching, and thought it funny. ;)
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Got a good laugh from that.
Maybe it doesn't mean that, WTF do I know. I don't care anyway. :)
well... its all relative to the 9200 series i guess. ;)
Me too i was thinking it was special edition the start but now i know its meen "slow equivalant"...LOL. JKQuote:
Originally posted by pik-ard v1.1
i actually thought it ment "special edition"
but i found this while searching, and thought it funny. ;)