DOMINATOR-GT Power!!!
Tripple Channel DDR3 2310.2 MHz 7-8-7-20 1T @ 1,85V
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DOMINATOR-GT Power!!!
Tripple Channel DDR3 2310.2 MHz 7-8-7-20 1T @ 1,85V
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=562912
http://www.abload.de/img/vali2310c70ach.jpg
hello guys...
With my DFI UT X58 i get up to 95°C on my PWMs which are already water cooled (4300Mhz, 1,36 Vcore).
Somebody with an waterblock on DFI's PWMs here?
Water Temp is round 25°C - seems my MIPS PWM Block isn't mounted correctly.
Back to topic.
Does's anybody have the 1866er Corsair GT's?
Does they reach nerlay the same results than the CL 7 2000er?
thanks 4 help
pwm temps are more vtt dependent so wahts ure vtt??Quote:
Originally Posted by Krautmaster
at ambient temp 30-34C
for me stock cooling 95C in linx at 1.48v/prime 85C
hr05+70mm fan on nb 85C in linx, prime 81C
vtt is at 1,40V, load around 1,43 V...Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
Not very high i think.
:o..........!
Smexy ram is smexy!
~Bex
yes. even better with 2028 7-7-6-18 and very tight subtimings (tRRD = tRTP = 1). got the 8.xx 32m timezone with 3854Mhz. see here. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kimofil
BTW all, GT 6GB 2000 cl7 seems to be on sale: $529.99 at the corsair shop. and there's no waiting list. this is as of today. don't know how long it will last.
try that with hyperpi32m 4-8 threads with ht on off linx, prime95 large fft custom 5.4gb run.Quote:
Originally Posted by alex_tpc
the price dropped??
i don't think so ;). was one-time run to get top spot (for now).Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
looks like it. see the product page. Add to cart option is available. the water and tec blocks are also available.Quote:
the price dropped??
icQuote:
Originally Posted by alex_tpc
want to see more stable clocks..
Corsair lost out this time, took them forever to get them in stock. Couldn't wait any longer and bought OCZ Blade 7-7-7-20-1N 2000Mhz. Happy with them too. I like Corsair but they :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:footed around too long this time.
Edit: and only $438
ok and post with prime95 large fft custom 5.4gbQuote:
Originally Posted by r1rhyder
ty
What voltages and cooling?Quote:
Originally Posted by alex_tpc
why don't I just take a stick and beat my computer with it.:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
ok each to his ownQuote:
Originally Posted by r1rhyder
before that post that 2k CL7-7-7 prime95 large fft custom 5.4gb
Mine arrived, quick test, 1.58V CL7-7-7-20 memtest X 8 300% passed
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/598...0514140600.jpg
Will test 2200+ C7 soon...:D
memtest hci results are fake for x58 for vdimm confirmation
try prime95 large fft custom 5.4gb
ty
really want to see more actual results like eva's
also superpi 32m is also fake as it stresses all cores instead of single thread
hence y bachus 32m hyperpi single thread is actually more stable and shows more accurate on vdimm confirmation.
nice sticks btw
super pi v1.5 32m single just set affinity to one core or as many as you want hehe or do you mean single 32m pi in hyperpi ?Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
hyperpi immediately sets the affinity for 0.99b afaikQuote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
superpi mod xs doesnt. so no idea on the stability and whether the user set the affinity. and setting the affinity also has to be cpu 0,2,4,6
just looking for more real possible clocks
been buying a lot of rams lately
a lot of posting in this thread for x58 is running single superpi mod 1.5.
using this to measure stability was quite true for x48's ddr3 and 790. but x58.. its sometime is no where close. linx will bsod on it.
prime95 large fft custom 5.4gb is the best for vdimm confirmation .. takes only 30 minutes or less. any other single thread error is not vdimm related.
OMG! maybee if comes to me this kit 3x1GB i will wish for this results :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabauterman
very nice memories
new goodies avail from Corsair boths models in stock :)
Corsair Cooling Ice TEC 30 sub-ambient cooling subsystem for Dominator GT $199.00
https://shop.corsair.com/store/item_view.aspx?id=833092
Corsair Cooling Hydro H30 water cooling block for Dominator GT $59.00
https://shop.corsair.com/store/item_view.aspx?id=833087
i would PM yellowbeard man
he'll look after you
Anyone of you guys played this stics on non Core i7 board? Eg. Rampage Extreme 1.
will do that dinos
i feel like charging them my phone bills.
Looks like I get to test their rma service as well. My 2000GT 7-8-7 3x2gb kit failed last week. I got the kit the first week they were available at the Corsair store in early Feb. Been running on my BR and DFI Ut @211 bclk 5:1 24/7 until a blue screen appeared and now the kit will only function at 4:1. I tested in my 2 Classifieds with same result. I pm'd yellowbeard for rma advice. I just hope this is an isolated incident and not an indication of Elpida chip longevity. I never exceeded 1.72 vdimm and 1.54 vtt. We shall see.
Anyone heard anything about the vat issue on the GT's for us europeans?? want the 2000mhz cl7 aswell, but 700$+25% norwegian tax on top of it is just too much
(this one's for Jody :rofl:)
my 2000GT CAS8 kit is not too shabby :D
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7...hz665161t4.png
hey Jody how's my NB looking mate :D
horri-aweful...that's a Shaq word so it's a real word :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Havent done much tweaking yet, but so far very impressed :up:
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...009_pc/mem.png
Wow! 21,5K Read is awesome !
wow, very impressive uncore bro!:eek::up:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Which set of GT's are you using cstkl1?
One of my C8 2000s died last night :( I didn't even get to abuse them yet. H B Outlet will send me a new set though so yay for them.
2k6gb c7Quote:
Originally Posted by drnip
Are Elpida Hypers really easy to kill? One of my Dominator GT sticks just died while running LinX. I had them running at 1.66v, which I'm not sure can be considered overvolting at all! The sticks seemed great the week they lasted, no sings of faulty sticks anywhere. I have never given them more than 1.66v, and they have not seen anything higher than 2GHz 7-7-7. I hope the RMA process is painless :(
Tell me about it :mad::shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by jagt
cant wait for my next upgrade im getting 2 more gtx 275 and 2 6gb kits of the gt's
Don't know if the Hyper's are easy to kill or not. My GT2000 7-8-7 3x2 kit died after 10 weeks. The RMA process is cumbersome.Quote:
Originally Posted by jagt
I have had one set of Hypers die right after I first got them. This was when they were shipping in the plain white cardboard box before they switched to the retail packaging. I sent them back to newegg for a refund. I ordered a set of the Perfect Storm C9's and those are still alive. Used them for 2 weeks while I waited for the egg to get the Hypers back in. The second set of Hypers I got were in the plastic retail packaging and have been great ever since. They run 2000 7-8-7-20-1T or 1700 7-7-7-18-1T all with 1.66v. So far so good. If you can, I suggest you get them from newegg (if you're in the US or CA) as it makes the RMA process 10x easier.
I would definitely buy the kit from the egg if they offered it, but they don't. The Corsair store is the only place to get the 2000GT 7-8-7 3x2 kit as far as I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade5399
Not the only:D
http://www.mix-computer.de/html/prod...?artNo=ICIF5J&
Mine came in the plain white cardboard box as well. I will be RMA'ing them to the e-tailer (komplett.no) instead of going through Corsair. Komplett has been really good to me in the past on RMA's, so I hope it won't take too long. I also hope these are not anything like the D9 GMH's. I went through a TON of RMA's on those over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade5399
Yes, I hope not also. Chip degradation has been a real pain in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by jagt
Hard to believe thats the only store that would be reselling, no stock either :DQuote:
Originally Posted by sofos1990
how much vdimm did you guys use with the kits that died? and are they dead or degraded? all sticks?
i heard that more than 2v can damage elpida chips quite quickly
1.66v max. So it can't be voltage that killed my kit.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
I had 4 Elipda Hyper kits where one stick died. Two were HyperXs and two were dom GTs.The max voltage that I ever gave 'em in BIOS was 1.68.
One stick of my Adata kit(3*1gb) v2.0 died with 2.1V:D
[QUOTE=saaya;3820042]how much vdimm did you guys use with the kits that died? and are they dead or degraded? all sticks?
i heard that more than 2v can damage elpida chips quite quickly[/QUOTE
I used max vdimm 1.72. 1 stick died so I am not sure if there was degradation or not. GT 2000 7-8-7 3x2 kit ran for 10 weeks @5:1 mild OC. I say not sure because the kit ran @4:1 after starting to have trouble and then died completely after a week at 4:1.
do i have to worry about killing my kit.Quote:
Originally Posted by tripgood
not easy to RMA them from here in THAILAND...
I just had one of my Kingston HyperX sticks die this weekend never overclocked past 1.65v. ran with low vtt too. They lasted a couple of months, submitted RMA to Kingston. These Elpida do seem to be fragile.
What chipset use in Domianator GT 2000 CL 8?, is it also elpida hyper but different binned or somethign else?>
thx
love the price tag on them
They're the same chips... as you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boyu
I had 2 kits of OCZ Blade 2000C7 so far, first kit did not meet the specs voltage-wise, second lost 3rd stick after some hours of memtesting the day after. Now waiting for my third kit. Also awaiting a new kit of Dom GT C7 on monday... hope they meet my expectations (and don't die on me). :D
Hey guys...:D
Except Corsair where else can we find/buy 2000CL7 kits?:off:
try here :D
http://www.corsair.com/wheretobuy/default.aspx
Mine died couple nights ago. It was the 1866 c7, Same chips. 1.68 volt left computer on over night woke up next morning and it was crashed and wouldn't boot. 2 of the sticks died. The first kit I had had 1 stick DOA and had to RMA. That's two sets in about 3 weeks.
I am going to see if I can get a refund. Luckily this all has happened within the 30 days from purchase but i'm not sure if Newegg will give me a refund.
What motherboard are you using? Damnit, my RMA will be here tomorrow or thuesday. I'm not sure if I dare using them at all now! :P Looks like we have the "new" D9 GMH's...Quote:
Originally Posted by bluehaze
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Originally Posted by jagt
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Originally Posted by tekjunkie
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Originally Posted by tripgood
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Originally Posted by Bootsy
mhhh that doesnt sound good at all...Quote:
Originally Posted by bluehaze
imma start a new thread and will pm you guys the link, please post some details, lets see if we can find out how those sticks die :)
:P well thats not surprising :DQuote:
Originally Posted by sofos1990
heres the thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=227147
saaya do you seriously expect people to be truthful about their voltage after they killed their RAM and want to RMA them :D
not saying anyone was making it up but there is a VERY strong incentive not to tell the truth
i killed my 2000GT CAS8 kit but i was also testin full range of volts up to 2.1v which is the likely cause. i know i will :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:foot with Elpida based stuff from now on....1.75v absolute max
my 1866 Samsung IC based kit is still find though and it lived most of its life at 2.16Vdimm :D
yes i actually do...Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
lets see it the other way around, if somebody killed his kit with high vdimm, do you expect him to post in the thread i created claiming he used low vdimm? why would he do that? :)
it has no effect whatsoever on a possible rma, yet he posts wrong and misleading information that might ruin the chance for other people to figure out a problem with their system...
"it has no effect whatsoever on a possible rma"
ROFL are you high or something?!?
have you ever actually RMAed something where you were the cause of the silicone murder, told them and they accepted the RMA :shocked:
as in oh hi, your RAM is dead. I gave it 2.2v while testing and now they are not working....................no problems Mr.Sascha we will send you another kit. By all means shove 2.2v into them again and we will replace them again when you kill them
:rolleyes:
Sorry Dinos you are so wrong on this. I am a self repecting person and I would rather take the financial hit than do something like that. Also, I am not into benching(I don't think I ever will get into it), more of a 24/7 stable, gaming rig kind of person, so there is no reason for me to pump too much voltage just to squeeze the extra MHZ.I aways do my homework(about safe voltages and stuff) before I venture into my OCing adventure, so most of the time I know my limits.I also have the philosophy of "When in doubt, always ask", so I would rather ask and look like a NOOB(which I am anyway) than assume about voltages and stuff. So for you to generalize it and make a blunt statement like that, to question our credibility, not cool man.Sorry to say this, but you lost my respect by saying this. I don't know whether you would care as I am a nobody here, but just thought I would post this.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
hey man
i didnt say that you or anyone actually did say this or might be like this
i am however saying that people are known to bend the truth when it comes to RMA
i work in retail industry and i am sick of liers .... it is a lot more withspread than you think
believe me tekjunkie you are in minority and kudos for your reply :up:
If that's the case, my apologies for my overreaction.I misunderstood you.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Mine are doing great so far...
http://www.abload.de/thumb/xeon4210-...037-7-vz7y.jpg
Got to 2105 7-8-7-20 1T so far primestable (5.4GB used custom) @1.66V BIOS. Not an easy task though...
Once one of your sets dies at stock volts maybe then you will believe us :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Thats why I don't buy Corsair anymore...Quote:
Originally Posted by bluehaze
I don't think it's fair to blame this on Corsair at all. They're not making the weak IC's. Anyway, Hypers are dying across the board, doesn't seem to matter what brand you get them from.
you are missing the point what i was getting atQuote:
Originally Posted by bluehaze
and i am not sure that will happen any time soon
my hardware starts to live its life in full swing :D
Nope, I didn't you called us all liars and I take offense to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Perhaps you should have a look at this thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=227147
And the RMA arrived. Looks like this kit is... sh*t compared to the other kit I had. Won't even POST at 2000MHz 7-8-7, whilst the other kit was stable at that speed at stock voltage. When it does post the system can only find 4GB, so I assume on of the sticks is just crap. Errors out in memtest at 2GHz 8-8-8 too. Testing now with a slight voltage bump :(Quote:
Originally Posted by jagt
Oh yeah, and my system only posts half of the time. The other times it will be stuck in a post-loop where the only solution is to clear CMOS, even though the settings proved stable before rebooting.
geez, calm down dinos...Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
what i mean is posting something here has no effect on an rma...
even if the nickname somebody has on hir forum here is similar to his real name, and most arent, then he would still claim its a diferent person if corsair tech support asked him about this forum post...
even if i post here and say i killed my gskill memory with 2.4v and then rma it, and the tech support tells me, hey, theres a sascha aka saaya on xs who said he killed his mem with 2.4v ... ill say its not me, must be another guy... so then what? they will say i have the same first and last name and am from the same country? and? do you know how many people in germany have the same first and last name as me? i know of at least 11 cause i once looked it up when i worked for the german telecom :D
and even if there is only one guy with my first and last name... so what?
do you think any manufacturer can honestly afford to risk refusing a legit rma cause they THINK the guy MIGHT have killed his product by misusing it? i dont know how this is dont in australia, but in germany youll get sued if you refuse an rma and cant prove that you have a reason to refuse it...
lets say X created an rma for the mem he killed with high vdimm, then he might be careful and wont post on the forums that he killed his mem with high vdimm... but would he make an effort and post everywhere that his mem died at stock vdimm? why? to risk pssing off the manufacturer?
you seem to think all those guys who posted here only said their mem died at low vdimm cause they are affraid they wont be able to rma it, and actually they killed it with high vdimm... i really dont think so...
Bah, this new kits blows. It doesn't wanna run anything above the stock settings! Night/day difference between this and my last set that did this just fine:
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/j...7-7_stable.jpg
If I understand the serial number correctly, this kit is one week newer than the previois kit I had that died (0918 vs. 0917). They act like they are different IC's. Perhaps this is of the type that overclocks like crap but lasts longer than two days? :P
It's probably different IC's now. I imagine Corsair has been getting tons of this ram back for RMA and was probably well aware of the problem long before any of us. I also notice the 1866 stuff is getting much cheaper, it's only 234.00 now on Newegg.
It still says Rev 2.1 on the sticker. Don't they usally change revision when they start using a new IC? I can't even pass LinX at the stock 1866MHz 7-8-7 on this kit. It's utter and complete :banana::banana::banana::banana:. I'll start testing each stick individually now.
Yea, I would think so...not sure how it works. I am really hoping to get a refund for mine though. Will buy some 2000mhz later once all this gets worked out.Quote:
Originally Posted by jagt
Yeah, that sounds like a good plan. I would do the same but I doubt my e-tailer will allow me a refund. You pay a premium and this is what you get.
I got my replacement GTs and so far so good.
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1...pi32mx8.th.jpg
I really REALLY hope that this kit does not die on me. If it dies on me, O well, $500 down the drain. I am sick and tired of RMAing.
i dont think that 7-7-7-x is stock :confused:
gave up a while on 2100 4.4ghz
now testing running 2k 7-7-6-20 tRFC 60 vdimm 1.6v
so far i found linx is easy
prime is hard say 8-12 hours especially after 9 hours
cause pwm frequency also comes into play.
each vtt has different optimal pwm frequency
dram speeds are depended on the dram pwm frequency also.
example 1.36 perfect at 180khz
1.4 prefers 153khz
1.44 prefers 126khz
dram 2k prefers 180khz
2050 prefers 207khz etc
well classifiedQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
testing on one board everest result is almost = to dmm read.
eleet is way off on load
when vdroop is disabled.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...l1/Voltage.jpg
test setup 950
adata xpg 2133
classified + bits full coverage + mosfet+ht3+feser 360
corsair hx1000
so eleet vs dmm
vdimm 1.64v vs 1.68v real
cpu vtt 1.475v vs 1.55v real
ioh vcore 1.1v vs 1.13v real
vcore 1.45625v vs 1.47v real
???
Eleet likes to show more Vtt than there really is:
BIOS set -> Eleet -> DMM
1.425Vtt -> 1.52 -> 1.4000
1.62Vdimm -> 1.65V -> 1.6440
http://www.abload.de/thumb/xeon4315-...277-7-4jdx.jpg
Mine are 0918 too, they don't suck and I luv and want to marry them. :lol:
I will be RMA'ing my kit again as they refuse to be stable even at stock settings. I have underclocked them to 1600MHz 7-7-7 now, and they won't even POST at 6-7-6! Talk about rubbish kit. Oh well, 3rd time's the charm.
Yeah I noticed on my Classy that the voltage tab of Eleet and BIOS is backwards or at least to me. A setting of 1.65v DIMM in BIOS shows 1.65v in the Eleet voltage tab but reports 1.71v on the monitoring tab of Eleet as well as other monitoring utilities? Same goes for other voltages. Usually in my experiences what is reported is lower than what is set. My vcore is normal though. It reports lower than what is set.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
interestingQuote:
Originally Posted by SAE
i find the problem is only on load , it goes up on my dmm and when vdroop is disable. talking about vtt and vcore.
are u using mch 1600 strap .
hmm see eva i was right. told jimmy already. that the 2050 on dfi on 205. all the bootup clock skews are wrong.
from his rtl i can already tell.
I am using strap 1600, yep. :cool:
My VTT and Vdimm droop under load, but it's minimal. I am using max PWM frequencies. The VTT being shown .1V higher that it really is, seems to be the standard with the Classified. It's also setting the VTT .025V lower than it's been set up in BIOS/Eleet.
Vcore droops if LLC is off (that's what I am using), but switching Vdroop off pushes Vcore under load. Makes perfect sense in my eyes, mate.
actually u made me realize something about the classyQuote:
Originally Posted by SAE
ure mem skews.which affects the rtl's
ures is same as my 2k. setting on dfi..
its impossible to rtl 53 on dfi for 2050.
going back to test the dfi again.
I don't understand clock skews if that is what you are talking about? But I am curious about what you say because I notice that my Classified has lesser performance than other boards at the same clock speeds and have been tweaking timings etc... to try and close that gap. Basically in 3dmark Vantage I lose about 1000 3dmarks compared to a UD5 at same speeds and no amount of tweaking has made up for it yet. Sorry if this is a noobish question but I have not yet messed with any of the skew settings, does this affect performance of the board?Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
that could be any factorQuote:
Originally Posted by bluehaze
from ure os interaction with eist
to many things
or qpi strengths
but the dram bandwidth is the about the same between dfi and evga .
mem skews that i am talking about is a internal setting in the bios
for dfi it is set via bootup clocks which are tweaked by their engineers
evga is via mch strap.
rtl 53 at 2050 c7 is really unreal and awesome dfi cannot do this atm with
their current bios afaik.
pretty close heheQuote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
RTL 55
http://nx.i4memory.com/corsair/corsa..._32m_8x_tn.png
http://nx.i4memory.com/corsair/corsa...x_5pass_tn.png
RTL 56
http://nx.i4memory.com/corsair/corsa...8x_189v_tn.png
http://nx.i4memory.com/corsair/corsa...linx_5pass.png
http://nx.i4memory.com/corsair/corsa...tage_24970.png
nice eva
click my sig and u will see 100 linx 4.3ghz 1050 C7 rtl 54.
53.. is not possible on the dfi atleast for me for 1050.
and willing to bet again his rtl on 1050 = 1000mhz C7.
I could do RTL 53-56-58 @ anything up to 1055 7-8-7-20 1T. But I feel there's coming some kinda instability then. I am still struggling to get anything over 21x206 stable with 10x RAM 7-7-7 or 7-8-7... might be a crappy IMC then.
K, Will play with rtl! :D Haven't messed with it much mostly just standard timings and straps because I don't understand enough about the others. Trying to break 30k Vantage single gtx 295...so close right now at 29,700.Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
check the BR review on xcpus.com, they compared it to the classified and saw the same weird perf drops, it only seems to affect some memory dividers... it could be that you have to manually adjust the mch straps for the diferent memory dividers... i dont know why clock for clock the classified is slower, but i wouldnt be surprised if its caused by some relaxed timings they use to get higher bclock/qpi speeds? i dont know if you can actually adjust this and get back to tight timings and good clock per clock performance for people who really dont need high bclocks...Quote:
Originally Posted by bluehaze
yeah i thought so too, but i dont think its turbo since it affects diferent mem speeds... some speeds are fine, some are notably slowQuote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
thats odd about dfi btw, are you saying they decide when to chose what strap and dont allow users to adjust it manually in bios? thats kinda weird for dfi...
but with lower memory multiplier and same uncore multiplier you can get higher? try more vtt and... i dont know how they are called on the evga board, but increase the x58 voltages, theres a 1.1 and a 1.5v voltage, increase both and see if it helps... can you get higher with cas8? i was quite surprised when raja showed how much memory can hold you back bclock wise... he switched from some good samsung to some good elpida sticks and it gave him 10mhz higher bclocks or even more iirc... and he couldnt get those even with relaxed timings before...Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
its weird, and i dont really get why... but several people had the same experience, they couldnt get high bclocks even with high vdimm, vtt and loose timings, then switched to another set of mem and could get noticably higher bclocks then...
whats the highest bclock you can boot at SAE?
your on phase change right?