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how'd u currupted it?Quote:
Originally posted by hag6br
need a little help here...
Just corrupted the Bios on My Shutttle AN50R and need to get a new Bios chip as fast as I can...
I asked here as ALL of you are athlon64 users and somebody has to have done it before..
Need to know where I can get a replacement Bios Chip as Shuttle is slower than Molasses in replying to my request.
I installed some new Ram, went up to 210 FSB and the thing BSOD'd.. when it rebooted, It said "configuring LAN Mac address" and shut itself off.. Has not posted since. All it does is blink the HDD LED once Pauses then blinks twice..Quote:
Originally posted by soccrstar
how'd u currupted it?
The CPU is still good as it works fine on my Gigabyte K8N Pro..
You didn't clear cmos after installing new ram? It tried to boot with old timings I assume?
Yep, did clear Bios.. Booted fine at 200-205, But did this at 210...Quote:
Originally posted by TheDude
You didn't clear cmos after installing new ram? It tried to boot with old timings I assume?
I thought the shuttle has a backup somewhere, but that might be my DFI Infinity that has that..
EDIT: Just got the Email from Shuttle (which was totally useless )But they confirmed the Bios is :" If the problem still encounter, we are afraid your BIOS chip is crush" :rolleyes:
Try asking Shuttle where to buy one or to send you one. Excaliberpc has them, but as far as I know they only carry Abit.
You could try to match yours with a blank one at Radio Shack and then hot flash it if you have a friend with that mobo?
Try here:
http://www.badflash.com/orderbios.html
Fixing this is quite simple actually.. as long as you have another mobo up and running. You just install the shuttle bios-chip in the other system while its up in windows or dos (depening on which flashprogram you are using). Then you force the shuttle-bios in to the chip. Remember to download the correct bios first :)Quote:
Originally posted by hag6br
Yep, did clear Bios.. Booted fine at 200-205, But did this at 210...
I thought the shuttle has a backup somewhere, but that might be my DFI Infinity that has that..
EDIT: Just got the Email from Shuttle (which was totally useless )But they confirmed the Bios is :" If the problem still encounter, we are afraid your BIOS chip is crush" :rolleyes:
If you are using an Abit MOBO and flashmenu to do it, you must check out the "Ignore BIOS partnumber check" which is located under "Advanced setting", or else the flashmenu will stop cause the bios differs with the MOBO. When using the DOS based flash app. you need to use the -f parameter IIRC.
Prolly a real bad explanation, but i just woke up and im REALLY tired. Just let me know if you diddn´t understand :)
Formann,
That's really handy! I did not know you could force the bios flash like that! :thumbsup:
I'm writing this tip down!;)
:ROTF:Quote:
Originally posted by TheDude
Formann,
That's really handy! I did not know you could force the bios flash like that! :thumbsup:
I'm writing this tip down!;)
cant you damage the socket and/or bios chip like that?
u people r crazy :wierd:
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btw my chip is a week 51 chip (a64)
soccrstar,
It's the same as Hotflashing it which I have done many times with no problems...except you force it to flash to a different brand mobo.
w0w
i gotta try that sometime :-D
wit my luck i'd make something go KABL00M :flame:
UGGH.. Why didn't I think of that :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by Formann
Fixing this is quite simple actually.. as long as you have another mobo up and running. You just install the shuttle bios-chip in the other system while its up in windows or dos (depening on which flashprogram you are using). Then you force the shuttle-bios in to the chip. Remember to download the correct bios first :)
If you are using an Abit MOBO and flashmenu to do it, you must check out the "Ignore BIOS partnumber check" which is located under "Advanced setting", or else the flashmenu will stop cause the bios differs with the MOBO. When using the DOS based flash app. you need to use the -f parameter IIRC.
Prolly a real bad explanation, but i just woke up and im REALLY tired. Just let me know if you diddn´t understand :)
since I Got my Gigabyte K8N pro sitting here, Should work like a Charm... THANKS..
OOPS.. I guess I will try with the DFI.. The Gigabyte has the Chips soldered to the board :(
Think i got a bad core here: CAAOC 0350 XPMW.
I'm running it on a Shuttle AN50R @ Prommie R507. If temp gous lower than -43 @ evapor the system locks up. Max speed that i got was 2600 @ 1.72v :confused: Ram running @ 5:4.
Anyone that knows the lockup bug @ subzero temps ? + a Fix for it ?
c sig
I cant see any info on A64 overclocks in your sig..Quote:
Originally posted by All4AMD
c sig
i was gettin' video curruption leavin' my agp @ 66mhz
i had to up my agp to 70mhz to get past 235mhz
with LDT @ 3x most i can get is 222mhz
LDT @ 2x multplier @ 10x (my cpu is holding me back)
i need to get some money so i can order those SMD grabbers n volt mod this sucker
1.7V but not prime stable
crashes after a second
http://users.rcn.com/trackstar2001/10x250.JPG
Got my 3400+ yesterday, and i'm well chuffed with it!
So far almost got 2,5 gig @ 1.7Vcore stock cooler w/ an awfull lot of shin etsu that came as stock.
Tonight i'm gonna put a better fan on it, a 70mm that came from a volcano 7+, so i'm sure 2,5 GHz will be done easily. :)
I'm running this CPU in a Shuttle AN50R.
Running Cas2 doesn't allow anything higher than 217x11, running cas 2,5 does 226x11 stable. (3d mark, superpi and pifast)
Timings 2,5-2-2-6-12-16
Stepping is in the picture. ;)
And here's what she does:
No5 in FX5900 class, and i have only just began.... :D
A64 3000+ CAAOC 0352
http://www.lengstrand.com/lars/ts/2704.gif
Plain water
1x 512MB stick of OCZ PC4400 :)
AMD64 3000+ @ 274.5MHZ x 8.5 using Venus 12 heatsink + AS5
Shuttle AN50R rev1.3 no mods!
128MB Gigacube 9600PRO @ stock
1:1
LDT 2.5x
http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shu...pcmark2002.jpg
Super Pi 2M = 1min 29s
Super Pi 32M = 33min 29s
Sandra 2004 SP1 Buffered = 3976/3975
Sandra 2004 SP1 Unbuffered = 2261/2296
Aida32 3.90 Read = 3934MB/s
Aida32 3.90 Write = 1521MB/s
Sandra 2004 SP1 CPU = 10,174 / (3701/4846)
Sandra 2004 SP1 CPU Media = 22347 / 24029
http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shu...ciencemark.jpg
Current room temp of 31-33C is limiting heh
now that is very nice eva2000. i appreciate that style :D
Well I just picked up a new CAAAC 0345RPMW from Newegg myself and it too is a greenie.
Should have some results up tonight.
Warden
I'm having the same cpu lying around here.Quote:
Originally posted by Warden
Well I just picked up a new CAAAC 0345RPMW from Newegg myself and it too is a greenie.
Should have some results up tonight.
Warden
It's doing 2440 @ 1.7v on water while using the Gigabyte GA-K8NNXP
I haven't modded my mobo yet, so I'm hoping for better results in a few days :)
@ EmineM: This is a CAAAC on water, a 0345 RPMW to be precise ;)
today we got 2560MHz (10x256mhz) on a epox 8hda3+
the 3200+ is vapochilled and stable :)
he make a superpi time from 34secs in 1M
Anyone can tell me their results with a A64 3200 + CAAAC under Air / prommy whatever
pls :) thx
Thanks to all that helped me get my AN50R running again..
Finally found some ram it likes.. Still Playing around with it though..
Shuttle AN50R
Athlon64 3200+ (bootable @ 254x10)
2x256MB OCZ PC3200 EL Dual Channel (BH-5)
Water Chilled with water at 10C
Vdimm @ 3.6V
Vcore @ 1.9V
Since im gonna sell my MachII (it does 2700mhz with that) i using
"MicroFlow" Waterblock liitle to much vCore:p: .
http://w1.825.telia.com/~u82509108/325x8.JPG
gabbax what does it say on your chip?
Dont know...
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/..._3000/cpus.jpg
Which one would you take?? ;)
3400+ (CAAOC 0352, brown):
K8N Pro
KHX3200 256MB
1.85V Vcore
chilled water (cooler base above zero):
SuperPi 8M:
2689MHz - 5min 57sec
3000+ (CAATC 0403, green)
K8N Pro
KHX3200 256MB
1.85V Vcore
chilled water (cooler base above zero):
SuperPi 8M:
2709MHz - 5min 57sec
SuperPi 1M:
2764MHz
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/...00/2764mhz.gif
Coming up next: 3000 + cascade :up:
I'd have the 3400 and the extra cache ...Quote:
Originally posted by macci
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/..._3000/cpus.jpg
Which one would you take?? ;)
3400+ (CAAOC 0352, brown):
K8N Pro
KHX3200 256MB
1.85V Vcore
chilled water (cooler base above zero):
SuperPi 8M:
2689MHz - 5min 57sec
3000+ (CAATC 0403, green)
K8N Pro
KHX3200 256MB
1.85V Vcore
chilled water (cooler base above zero):
SuperPi 8M:
2709MHz - 5min 57sec
SuperPi 1M:
2764MHz
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/...00/2764mhz.gif
Coming up next: 3000 + cascade :up:
Being old I remember the days when AMD64's did 2300 out of the box or on water .. now it is 2600 .. CAATC now eh
CAAKC -> CAAMC -> CAAOC - > CAATC ( 2004 vintage )
What's happened to CAA P Q R S C ?
Prescott looks doomed at this rate, AMD have added 300Mhz in 4 months which is 15%, prescott looks dodgy at 3.7Ghz max.
Regards
Andy
PS Good luck macci, i am sure you think you can get more speed out of the 3000 to offset the lack of cache ... 3.2Ghz+ ?????
Regards
Andy
Thanks :)
I'll give it a shot tomorrow w/ cascade. It will do over 3G - the question is how much over 3G :D
As far as SuperPi 8M goes the 3000 needs only 20-30MHz extra to match the 1MB L2 cache chip. And it seems to overclock some 50-60MHz higher than the 3400+ :)
Macci, I'd take the 3400+, sell it and buy two 3000+ and see if they go higher. :D
macci i think on 3dmark the extra cache makes more diferençe than on superpi,
and maybe the extra multiplier of 3.4+ will help on 1:1 runs
Ricky, thats quite possible. I'll test 3dmark once I'm done with SuperPi :D
5m 54sec now for SPI8M watercooled.
Just wondering, anyone notice a difference between the 3400+ retail and OEM chip's oc wise??...and if so what...also what are most people running retail chips?
As far as i know the oem and the retail are the same exact chip. The retail just is in a box and come with a heat sink. Where the owm gets sold in a little plastic "case" and thats it. If you ask me i would feel better geting a box. I dont like the feeling of walkign out of the store with an inch by inch square of silicon that i just paid close to 400 dollars for.
Also, the boxed version comes with a 3 year warrenty, where the tray got 1 year, not that i'll keep it that long..
The boxed cooler is quite nice with a full copper base.
It's up to you wheter it's worth it.
I think they oc the same since they're exactly the same chips.
Got 2536MHz PiFast stable out of mine with the boxed cooler and 1.7V
Only thing i changed was the fan.
3400 + cascade
SuperPi 8M:
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/...pi8m_5m20s.gif
3000+ is going in next :D
can you do Super 1M :) pls :p thats an awesome speed you gained.
Wow macci, how about some 3d mark benches with that 3400+ at those speeds?
I fear 31K! :slobber:
Even if the 3000+ can match the speed of that 3400+, the 3400+ will benefit from the extra cache and be better.
EmineM, yup SPi 1M runs at 3116MHz - 28sec.
macci can you refresh my memory on what motherboard you're using?
Gigabyte K8N Pro
The 3000+ is still kicking 3400s butt :D
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/...pi8m_5m19s.gif
Very nice macci, but what about the 512kb extra cache the 3400+ is wearing, don't you think that will make a big difference in 3d mark 2k1?
I know SuperPi likes bandwidth, so the 5Mhz more HTT (FSB)
on the 3000+ might have made the difference?
Anyways, 2 superchips for 1 super overclocker! :toast:
sami, which voltage?Quote:
Originally posted by macci
[B]The 3000+ is still kicking 3400s butt :D
thanks ;)
Alex, its at 2.04V. the board acts funny if I put more Vcore. The chip would love it thou. Need to fix that :D
Looks like my guess was a little low, and limited by the board it seems. :TOAST:
Nice work as always, looking forward to see which is best in 3dmark. Do you think you will lose many Mhz doing 3dmark ? If not then a few rough calculations say over 31k as mentioned above.
I'm playing around with my new replacment AMD tonight (CAAAC week 45 ) to see if it can better my older CAAMC which blew up. It has to beat 3400Mhz but it is not looking too good yet.
Nether the less , at stock with 5800 it is as fast as my P4 at 3600 5:4 2-5-2-2.
Thanks heavens for high IPC :)
Regards
Andy
3200+ CAAOC DryIce cooled...
1.92v. not bad...:)
http://utenti.lycos.it/warionet/k8n/295x10.jpg
awesome results macci :toast:
you continue to set the standard (no matter what CPU is in your hands)
Cheese n Rice! Macci those are brill results. Ever planning on coming to South Africa for a holiday and tweaking my system for me? I`ll buy u all the beer u want (after the mod that is).
Hey guys, especially you macci: how come no one here is really playing with the FX-51? Is it because it is a too expensive of a cpu to mess around with or what?
macci is it me or does te 3000+ just oc better than the other a64s or you just got lucky :D well i seen opp get over 3ghz with his too but you guys are using mondo cooling.. -- Which is the best cpu to mess around with if you have phase change cooling and money is not an option? Thx.
I've just clocked my a64 3400+ to 2670 but with mem divider.
When I use 1:1 my Mushkin lvl2 PC3500 wont go over FSB 235.
When I raise the vdimm from 2.98 to 3.20 it gets worse. Can it be that I have to raise the vbt or something?
If so, can anyone please link or show a picture of where to measure the vbt.
Seen the mod at Maccis homepage, but cant see where to measure.
2670 was done with 1.84v and LDTx2
EDIT: 2700mhz with mem at 220mhz cas 2 2 2 6.
Just want to be able to do 1:1
Is 1:1 much better than with an divider? Or is that not so important with the a64 anymore? :confused: :)
It would be helpfull to tell wich board you're on.... :)
Oh Sorry forgot about that. I'm running on a Gigabyte K8NNXP.
i think its because of the ecc memory...Quote:
Originally posted by J0k3r3
Hey guys, especially you macci: how come no one here is really playing with the FX-51? Is it because it is a too expensive of a cpu to mess around with or what?
think i need badly this moboQuote:
Originally posted by macci
Gigabyte K8N Pro
my epox and abit seems to be the limit now on my 3400+
just with geil 4200 not my mush the epox don't like my 3500 bh5
http://www.tweakers.net/ext/f/23164/full.jpg
on xtreme air but my prom 1 and prom 2 on 507 will not get higher.
so i need other motherboard
Cant get any higher with either a mach I or a mach II, you defo need a new board then.
Yup get the K8N-Pro, im getting one for a A64 3000+ im getting ;)
How are people getting so high on the FSB with asus k8v mobos? the highest stable i can get is 225fsb x10 @1.5vcore. After that it corrupts my HD. Using a seagate SATA HDD on the via SATA controller
s-ata is your likely the problem. try ide.
peter any hdd corruption> are you using a 66mhz pci card?
well i had the gigabyte k8nnxp before and it would not oc at all with my khx4000 1:1 ratio. guess it does not like cas 3 mushkin bh-6 did fine though
whats so good about the k8n...
does very high fsb...stable as hell ...does not kill as many cpus as the an50r :)
this is the most stable OC i can get
temp is 55C Idle on stock cooling
i lost mounting hardware for my waterblock new set got shipped be here friday
need a vcore n vmem volt mod to go any higher
memory crashes @ 270
prime crashes after a second if i do 2.45 or higher
more volts needed!!
thinkin' of gettin' radioshack part #278-017 to do the vmodds n the 47k pot
http://users.rcn.com/trackstar2001/267.JPG
soccrstar,
Very nice! With the mods and better cooling you could really kick some ass!:D
:toast:
Awesome!
I am thrilled to see so many people using the a64's
w00t!
lets all keep our cpus for atleats 6months guys lol :D
now thats impossible :DQuote:
Originally posted by J0k3r3
lets all keep our cpus for atleats 6months guys lol :D
Hey... I've just got my Shuttle AN50R mobo' - But can it be true that i can't overclock with ClockGen? I can't press the "Clocks" button... Whats wrong?
you need to BURN-IN your hardwareQuote:
Originally posted by A64'uSER
Hey... I've just got my Shuttle AN50R mobo' - But can it be true that i can't overclock with ClockGen? I can't press the "Clocks" button... Whats wrong?
or else it will FAIL.
i learned that the hard way and had to RMA my cpu n mobo
I think its only for the Via chipset, check the clockgen's website and make sure you downloaded the correct version.Quote:
Originally posted by A64'uSER
Hey... I've just got my Shuttle AN50R mobo' - But can it be true that i can't overclock with ClockGen? I can't press the "Clocks" button... Whats wrong?
Hmm... Okay... I'll try to find out of something ;)
Damn. It is'nt supported for my mobo' :( Do any of you know another clock program to the CPU?
I use it all the time on my AN50R, make sure everything is on auto in bios, except for LDT (set it to 2,5), Vcore and Vdimm.Quote:
Originally posted by A64'uSER
Hey... I've just got my Shuttle AN50R mobo' - But can it be true that i can't overclock with ClockGen? I can't press the "Clocks" button... Whats wrong?
Make sure you have the version for NF3 mobo's.
GL.
Weird... My nForce3 drivers has really gived me alot of trouble... In the start i could'nt start op in win when i've just installede my drivers... Så maybe i have to re-install windows?
newbeetle
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MemoryFTwinMOS PC2700 BH-6 256MB / DDR333 / CL2.5-2-5-2-8
VGAFATI XPERT 98 PCI 8MB
HDDFIBM-DTLA-307030 /U-DMA 5 (ATA100)
Power supllyFZippy-460WSi3.3V‰üj
VcoreF1.95ViŽÀ‘ªj/ VddrF3.39ViŽÀ‘ªj/ VioF3.80ViŽÀ‘ªj
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OMG...nice oc...:up:
good ol' LN2....when in doubt...freeze it
I just read this tread from the 1st page. Damn - I am waiting for new chipsets and then I am buying a 3000+ :D
My new replacement AMD64 3200 for the CAAMC 0334 is a CAAAC 0345.
This does 2440 on air for 3dmark up 60Mhz from about 2380 or so. This is air cooled and fairly warm so there might be another 20-30Mhz in it.
Regards
Andy
Anyone got a Athlon 64 3200 + CAAMC here ? with similar code to 0347XPMW.. its brown
that was similar to my old chip.Quote:
Originally posted by EmineM
Anyone got a Athlon 64 3200 + CAAMC here ? with similar code to 0347XPMW.. its brown
New Beetles clock speed is OK, macci can do 3150 with cascade though ...
Regards
Andy
I have a CAAMC 0339XPMW and Brown.. Have had it up to 2540 Mhz with Chilled Water..Quote:
Originally posted by EmineM
Anyone got a Athlon 64 3200 + CAAMC here ? with similar code to 0347XPMW.. its brown
It has been a Tough Cpu.. Been up to 2.1 Vcore and 3.8V Vdimm and still running strong
Wish I could say the same for the AN50R.. It died a Noble death..
sweet did you try running it with the boxed cooler?
How much vcore did you give the beast for 2540 MHZ
I was running 1.95V to hit 2540 Mhz.. Had it up to 2.1V but no increase in Speed over 1.95V..Quote:
Originally posted by EmineM
sweet did you try running it with the boxed cooler?
How much vcore did you give the beast for 2540 MHZ
On the stock cooler it hit 2350 Mhz and 1.85V.. Ran too hot anything over that..
Edit: The cpu will do higher But the Ram gave out at 2540 Mhz... Going to pick up some OCZ BH-6 today and see what it will do with it and my Gigabyte K8N Pro..
1.85 V on Boxed O_O I imagine the temps..
A64 3200+ new CAAOC stepping- 2.500Mhz with the Stock Cooler, no vmods and just 1.66v on core ..
http://home.kqnet.pt/wo034892/A64_2500_aAr.jpg
well
i did 2400mhz on an asus k8v (10x240) and 1.85v
stock cooled
No big deal :)
55C isn't TO bad for aircooling
here's a brown 3000+ caaoc 0352 xpmw on a gigabyte k8n-pro with vcore mod at 1.85vcore. memory was not behaving though
temps at around 45' in mbm under a venus12 - ambient 26'
Rocha gimme some numbers on that CAAOC.. is it brown?
XPMW?
It is Green:)Quote:
Originally posted by EmineM
Rocha gimme some numbers on that CAAOC.. is it brown?
XPMW?
I was wondering, how come do you guys only get it down to 36/37 secs with fsb 250?
Mine is 35 sec, at fsb 245. Done on the Abit KV8max3 board, with vcore 1.75
my memory was at about 210 with 8-3-3-2.0 timings. that is not helping at all.
also the nf3 boards seem to bench a bit slower than the kt800's
http://users.rcn.com/trackstar2001/b...mem_bdwdth.JPG
not bad for a unmodded board eh?
35mhz over stock on ram
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what to know something
with the heatspreader i could only achieve 261mhz stable
without it i'm currently at 285mhz
that tape that goes on the ram with the spreaders are pathedic
Those week 034 - 037 just seem to rock
blah
mine says 0351
would 51 be the week?
or 35? :confused:
soccrestar nice stuff you got there.. how much volt are u running thru the ram?
the most the mobo will let me... 2.9V
1.7V on CPU
LDT 1.5V
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pick now works
http://users.rcn.com/trackstar2001/bench/volts.JPG
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CPU temp is a little high
on stock cooling
gon goto fedex right now and pick up the replacement screws for my water block. i lost them :stick:
soccrstar,
I went back to other posts to try to see what memory you are using and don't see it?
according to CPU Z Memory page its OCZ PC 4000 .. need glasses hehe :)?
hmmmm....no glasses...just new brain....thanks
Our screen resolutions are so different that I didn't even see that screenshot on mine...had to scroll over.