I use winxp sp1, fat32, dx. 9.0b, i have win2k in another partition, will try it tonight, must go to bed, it's 8.09am here now :eek: :D
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I use winxp sp1, fat32, dx. 9.0b, i have win2k in another partition, will try it tonight, must go to bed, it's 8.09am here now :eek: :D
oh ic.. yea.. try win2k w/ ntfs file system. Both ntfs and sp2 was faster than fat32 & sp1 in my 3dmark benches.. haven't had chance to test it for other tests but.... im lazy~~ :D
sleep well :D
Server 2003 for SuperPI. :)
http://www.home.no/dpa/Ftp/Bilder/su...es..%20nr1.JPG
Cooled by R404a Mach II
1.775v in bios
Why this low fsb???Quote:
Originally posted by dpa
http://www.home.no/dpa/Ftp/Bilder/su...es..%20nr1.JPG
Cooled by R404a Mach II
1.775v in bios
Nice results anyway :thumbsup:
A64 3200+ C0 ,cooled with Thermaltake TR2-M6 with YS Tech Fan 3w
Gigabyte K8N Pro
Corsair 512MB XMS 3500 Rev.1.1
not bad, I think ;)
http://manner83.bei.t-online.de/bilder/pi.JPG
Hey TM30, my German fellow... :D
Welcome to the sickness. :toast:
hehe yesterday i bought a prometeia mach 2 on ebay... lets see what this A64 can do ^^Quote:
Originally posted by SAE
Hey TM30, my German fellow... :D
Welcome to the sickness. :toast:
by the way, i'm looking vor vmods for my Gigabyte K8N Pro ! Where can I find it ?
SAE: it stops there..
Should be fun :DQuote:
Originally posted by TM30
hehe yesterday i bought a prommeteia mach 2 on ebay... lets see what this A64 can do ^^
by the way, i'm looking vor vmods for my Gigabyte K8N Pro ! Where can I find it ?
Mods here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...threadid=20190
Oh :eek:Quote:
Originally posted by dpa
SAE: it stops there..
Does your ram stop you or the cpu/boards combo? Thought there would be nice high fsbs (270+) with dual channel... :( =ultimate power ;) I am a FSB addict :thumbsup:
Grats dpa :)
My SuperPI back in February...
How much does ram timings say in superpi???
I got a 3.0@3.8(253) 1:1 with ram@3-4-4-7 i do 37 secs...
Do ram say alot??? Was thinkin about getting some nice mushkin pc3500 level2 an hope they reach 253Mhz@low timings... What do you folk think??? Would it help... And could they even get up there???
Timings definately help... :DQuote:
Originally posted by Mini
How much does ram timings say in superpi???
I got a 3.0@3.8(253) 1:1 with ram@3-4-4-7 i do 37 secs...
Do ram say alot??? Was thinkin about getting some nice mushkin pc3500 level2 an hope they reach 253Mhz@low timings... What do you folk think??? Would it help... And could they even get up there???
I know it from my own experiences :)
Not that cold, 8-10C IIRC. I would have 2900 MHz if it was winter. :DQuote:
Originally posted by SAE
/Edit
How cold was this air? ;)
Hehe. I knew it ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Endre
Not that cold, 8-10C IIRC. I would have 2900 MHz if it was winter. :D
Here's my latest after removing the heat spreader
AN50R, 10/30 bios and win2k pro
http://users.tpg.com.au/spark69/an50r/superpi29sec.jpg
Really need to try that K8NHA Pro bios in this shuttle and some Win2003 Server tweaks to see if I can crack 28 sec.
A default install of win2003 server gave worse results :(
I assume it's HTT/RAM 1:1, what timings did you use? What ram is it?Quote:
Originally posted by CodeRed
Here's my latest after removing the heat spreader
AN50R, 10/30 bios and win2k pro
My latest :D
simply stunned... still the MACH II GT?
Yup :DQuote:
Originally posted by bias_hjorth
simply stunned... still the MACH II GT?
amezing CPU you got there.. very nice result ! :)
very nice codered and SAE
what stepping do you have on your A64 chip CodeRed?
Yeah the RAM is running 1:1 2-2-2-5 timings @ 3.6V, Kingston KHX3200/256Quote:
Originally posted by SAE
I assume it's HTT/RAM 1:1, what timings did you use? What ram is it?
RAM aint maxed either, this stick will do 276 MHz @ 3.6V, but my CPU couldnt quite hit 11x276.
stepping is CAATC 0403 'Y'
what comes after the week?
CAATC 0403YMPW?
TPMW IIRC, I'll check when I get home (at work ATM)Quote:
Originally posted by EmineM
what comes after the week?
CAATC 0403YMPW?
thanks alot!!
Nice SAE. Can't wait 'til I get a Prommy. :)
(Probably a Mach I that I can get cheap, will be R404a modded.)
Wonder what my chip will do prommy cooled...
Codered: Nice result... Server 2003 need to be tweaked. There are a thread about Server 2003 little back in this section, there you will find a 2003 guide.
Yes. I am anxious what scores you could get :DQuote:
Originally posted by Endre
Nice SAE. Can't wait 'til I get a Prommy. :)
(Probably a Mach I that I can get cheap, will be R404a modded.)
Wonder what my chip will do prommy cooled...
Codered: Nice result... Server 2003 need to be tweaked. There are a thread about Server 2003 little back in this section, there you will find a 2003 guide.
But remember. The results I show are only to reproduce when ya fsb is as high as mine... FSB RULEZ :cool:
Sure.... but that will be hard with an NF7. :DQuote:
Originally posted by SAE
Yes. I am anxious what scores you could get :D
But remember. The results I show are only to reproduce when ya fsb is as high as mine... FSB RULEZ :cool:
My current is dead. It wouldn't go higher than 249.6(x11) 2-2-2-11 CPU-int/APIC on anyway (stock cooler...), so I was getting tired of it. Hoping for a new one that does at least 253-255 without too much hesitation. :D
But 12.5x250 or 251 should probably be enough for 32s...
no better times since last try, but now with a nice HTT (and HT-Link @700mhz)
http://manner83.bei.t-online.de/bilder/pi2.JPG
Yeah, the nf7 and apic sucked too, like the dfis. Seems to be the nf2 chipset/cpus limiting us.Quote:
Originally posted by Endre
Sure.... but that will be hard with an NF7. :D
My current is dead. It wouldn't go higher than 249.6(x11) 2-2-2-11 CPU-int/APIC on anyway (stock cooler...), so I was getting tired of it. Hoping for a new one that does at least 253-255 without too much hesitation. :D
But 12.5x250 or 251 should probably be enough for 32s...
Do you think you could do 3.125Ghz with onnly a mach1 ;) ?
I had evap temps around only -23°C at 2.85GHz and 2V, and cpu socket temps were over 24°C! I now have loaded socket temps of 18°C and evap at -52°C :D (12x255 priming, primed over the last night and still priming... :thumbsup: )
/edit.
@TM30
If your ram would be faster you could probably gain a second or two ;)
The unit will be R404a (maybe R507) modded "of course". The CPU does 2800+ at 45-50C and my crappy low +12v line... we'll see what it will do with some nice temps and a decent PSU. :DQuote:
Originally posted by SAE
Yeah, the nf7 and apic sucked too, like the dfis. Seems to be the nf2 chipset/cpus limiting us.
Do you think you could do 3.125Ghz with onnly a mach1 ;) ?
I had evap temps around only -23°C at 2.85GHz and 2V, and cpu socket temps were over 24°C! I now have loaded socket temps of 18°C and evap at -52°C :D (12x255 priming, primed over the last night and still priming... :thumbsup: )
I'm pretty sure the chip will do at least 3,1 GHz with R404a Mach I.
Edit: Hm... I see umakemi's AQYHA did 3100 MHz with modded Prommy Mach I... only 2550 with air.
Some chips perform well under phasechange, some don't... :shrug:Quote:
Originally posted by Endre
The unit will be R404a (maybe R507) modded "of course". The CPU does 2800+ at 45-50C and my crappy low +12v line... we'll see what it will do with some nice temps and a decent PSU. :D
I'm pretty sure the chip will do at least 3,1 GHz with R404a Mach I.
Edit: Hm... I see umakemi's AQYHA did 3100 MHz with modded Prommy (R404a Mach II?)... only 2550 with air.
I have an old 2400+ tbred b that does 2.4+ on air and 2.6 under phasechange only... so go figure.
And the 12V line does not much to the cpu. Going from 12.4V to 13V just brings more instability... Take a look after a good 5V line though. But I dunno if the nf7 uses the 12V rail more intensely than the dfi's do... And remember, it also depends on the board you're on... abits seems to get a bit higher cpu clocks but don't like high fsb the same time...
A thing I've noticed with this CPU is that it seems to care a lot about the temp, compared to a few other desktop XPs I've used. How it does with zubzero temps is another story though, but I have a feeling that it will do goood...
With NF7 the 5v line is not important at all... 12v is. It drops badly with 1,9v vcore and more, and I'm pretty sure it hurts my OC, at least a few MHz.
And the high CPU/FSB/vcore problems seems to be non-existent with the newer boards and bioses. :)
Okay. I could only guess as my last nf7-s oc adventure was quite some time ago...Quote:
Originally posted by Endre
A thing I've noticed with this CPU is that it seems to care a lot about the temp, compared to a few other desktop XPs I've used. How it does with zubzero temps is another story though, but I have a feeling that it will do goood...
With NF7 the 5v line is not important at all... 12v is. It drops badly with 1,9v vcore and more, and I'm pretty sure it hurts my OC, at least a few MHz.
Erm... do ya really think so??? Hehe. Iirc, there are many probs with newer boards just to reach fsbs higher than 225!!!Quote:
Originally posted by Endre
And the high CPU/FSB/vcore problems seems to be non-existent with the newer boards and bioses. :)
Why I don't see scores like mine from all the mobile/nf7 users? All I have seen up to now were at 200-215MHz fsb to pass 3GHz :confused:
Quote:
Originally posted by SAE
Erm... do ya really think so??? Hehe. Iirc, there are many probs with newer boards just to reach fsbs higher than 225!!!
I know it. :)
The max 225 boards are history now, thankfully. The latest boards are great. My first NF7 (really old) did 245-250 with multis below 11, but only 230x11... unmodded, vdd mod didn't help. With Tictac D10 bios.
My third (NB 0344) did 249x11... and 249x10... probably 249x8 aswell (maybe 250 :D ). With Tictac D2x bioses.
Because people have the old crappy NF7s, they either keep that or get DFI boards.Quote:
Why I don't see scores like mine from all the mobile/nf7 users? All I have seen up to now were at 200-215MHz fsb to pass 3GHz :confused:
But, there are some, Dani with 253x12 or something like that for example... ;)
Edit: That's with a desktop, but there is no such thing as NF7/mobile high FSB problems...
And soon, you have me with 25Xx12,5 :D
TheDude, Keeper, Jeff, all have probs at 3GHz+ and fsb higher than 215...Quote:
Originally posted by Endre
Edit: That's with a desktop, but there is no such thing as NF7/mobile high FSB problems...
And soon, you have me with 25Xx12,5 :D
...with old boards.Quote:
Originally posted by SAE
TheDude, Keeper, Jeff, all have probs at 3GHz+ and fsb higher than 215...
Well. We'll see when I get my prommy. :)
OPP bought a new one one or two months ago, too. Could not get it higher than 238 stably!Quote:
Originally posted by Endre
...with old boards.
Yeah. But like you said. We'll see, hehe ;)
results updated:
finally a 28 sec score using an AN50R and win2k :banana:
http://users.tpg.com.au/spark69/an50r/superpi28sec.jpg
Very nice! That's 1:1 2-2-2-5?
actuallyQuote:
Originally posted by Endre
Very nice! That's 1:1 2-2-2-5?
2.0-8-12-2-2-5-2-2-1-1 @ 3.6V 1:1
using K8NHA Pro bios (0319)
man thats just too many numbers to remember :p:
Finaly.
24 sek fastest timings 3353 Mhz:banana:
24s is not enough! :p
Just kidding, I wish you luck in getting 23 seconds and making a new world record.
just :toast: Tom Holck
Tom Holck
VMOD the board to get close to 300 FSB maybe?
Very nice Tom... :slobber:
I made this page : http://zytrahus.free.fr/Quote:
Originally posted by saaya
isnt there a page with the highscores?
there is a page in japanese too... but don't understand everything...
:toast:
;) :hello:Quote:
Originally posted by Learn
just :toast: Tom Holck
I'm in ;)Quote:
Originally posted by zytrahus
I made this page : http://zytrahus.free.fr/
there is a page in japanese too... but don't understand everything...
:toast:
you're welcome:toast:
Sick time Tom. Number 1 AMD and number 1 non-LN2. Add your time here too, and let the japs see what danish cascade-power can do. :)
Hey pal. Wanted to enter the list too. I got 32s with my mobile XP at 3107MHz, have a look:Quote:
Originally posted by zytrahus
you're welcome:toast:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...532#post450532
But I did not find any possibility for verification... or to register.
SAE
hi, zytrahusQuote:
Originally posted by zytrahus
;) :hello:
that ?Quote:
Originally posted by SAE
Hey pal. Wanted to enter the list too. I got 32s with my mobile XP at 3107MHz, have a look:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...532#post450532
But I did not find any possibility for verification... or to register.
SAE
http://zytrahus.free.fr/saisie.php
his entry is OK
Erm. I filled the form :DQuote:
I only meant, there's no question for a screenie or sth like that... you know :)
@zytrahus
Thanks, pal :thumbsup:
yall cant beat my 128k score... 0s baby. oh yeah. fear me.
DoneQuote:
Originally posted by Endre
Sick time Tom. Number 1 AMD and number 1 non-LN2. Add your time here too, and let the japs see what danish cascade-power can do. :)
:toast:
Hm,
did you forget the screenshot? With that time I think you should include it. :D
24 minutes, LOL :D
Finally reached the 30 sek. :)
http://www.overclocking.dk/img/users/23219_07.jpg
nice, what timings, what Mobo? What cooling?
What temps do you have using MBM5 or anything.
Btw is that Win2003 oder WIN2000?
I've just max screen my A64 3000+ @3071MHz with R404a direct on die
:
http://www.cooling-masters.com/forum...?showtopic=976
I'm going to bench super pi next time but my BH5 isn't really excellent...
[ EUROPE & US ] SUPER PI DATABASE : http://zytrahus.free.fr/
I have a question for the tweakers, do you have to order Win2003 Server Eval Copy or can you download it? I was at microsoft site but they want me to order it so they can send it to me for 0 Bucks, cant I just download it?
Here's mine...
Nice clocks malves. :DQuote:
Originally posted by Malves
Here's mine...
But cpc off is killing your performance :(
I get near 32s at that speed ... (get 32s at 258x12 ;) )
Yeah. It (CPC) cuts off 1 second... :(Quote:
Originally posted by µnrealneo²
eww, hadn't noticed that.
CPC off = :stick:
Btw, that DFI board I had would only do 235 in 3D without bombing out.:rolleyes: Died 2 weeks after I got it. (Jan):mad:
Been an NF7 man since, can run 250 in SC with no VDIMM mod & KVR 2700 BH-6.:D
Eminem: Cpu is cooled with Mach2/r404a and display says -58 idle and -52 load. MBM5 says -36 idle and -32 load. Board is a Asus p4c800 with vdimm and vdroop mod. Memory is 1GB bh-5 at 5:4 which is around 430mhz cas 2225. Is working on 265 1:1 cas 2225 with 2 x 256mb bh-5 (all KHX).
When you order, microsoft send you a mail.Quote:
Originally posted by EmineM
I have a question for the tweakers, do you have to order Win2003 Server Eval Copy or can you download it? I was at microsoft site but they want me to order it so they can send it to me for 0 Bucks, cant I just download it?
in the mail there is a link and password.
Then you download an image file.
The image have to be burned to a boot cd.
You can do that for:
win 2003 server 32 bit
win xp 64 bit
win 2003 server 64 bit
:toast:
Well, my double sided KHX refuses to run anything with CPC on at any speed. :(Quote:
Originally posted by SAE
Nice clocks malves. :D
But cpc off is killing your performance :(
I get near 32s at that speed ... (get 32s at 258x12 ;) )
I got it to run once with cpc on at 2.9 ghz and got 35s. Strangely, I've got 35s before @ 2.9ghz and CPC off. Does APIC disabled make any difference? I had that disabled when benching @ that speed.
Hmm. I don't think APIC makes out a difference there... hmm. Only in 3d benching you would notice the differences (or in hdd benches, apic off should help here)...Quote:
Originally posted by Malves
Well, my double sided KHX refuses to run anything with CPC on at any speed. :(
I got it to run once with cpc on at 2.9 ghz and got 35s. Strangely, I've got 35s before @ 2.9ghz and CPC off. Does APIC disabled make any difference? I had that disabled when benching @ that speed.
CPC off is what hits your performance. Erm, what bios did you use when benching with cpc on this one time?
used 1/31. there's no way i can run anything with cpc on, unfortunately. :( Not even the new 4/29 helped me.:(
a nice 3.0E :banana:
http://rastavid.free.fr/images/scree.../superpi1m.JPG
:)
It 'd be fine if members could fill the form for the Super PI database ;)
http://zytrahus.free.fr/
Still have to mod to be able to run 1:1 hehe :) Hoping to see 29secs
yes 16*265 1:1 gives 29sQuote:
Originally posted by EmineM
Still have to mod to be able to run 1:1 hehe :) Hoping to see 29secs
very nice :toast:
thanks :) I only got after this tuning now, somewhere deep in this thread I have my 30 seconds on my A64, if I would have installed WinServer back then I couldve also gotten 29seconds :)
cpulloverclock, have you found a way to remove the Biostar bios from the shuttle yet?
tomorrow I will mod my abit :)
awdflash ***.bin shuttle bios /f ?Quote:
Originally posted by EmineM
thanks :) I only got after this tuning now, somewhere deep in this thread I have my 30 seconds on my A64, if I would have installed WinServer back then I couldve also gotten 29seconds :)
cpulloverclock, have you found a way to remove the Biostar bios from the shuttle yet?
tomorrow I will mod my abit :)
Nope, that doesnt work for the Biostar BIOS in the AN50R.Quote:
Originally posted by cpulloverclock
awdflash ***.bin shuttle bios /f ?
Even the /nbl stuff doesnt help.
This BIOS implements a Write Protect which prevents further BIOS updates unless you use the in-BIOS update menu.
Only way I found was to replace the BIOS chip :( ended up hot flashing an A7N8X motherboard with the shuttle BIOS then swapping bios chips.
okQuote:
Originally posted by CodeRed
Nope, that doesnt work for the Biostar BIOS in the AN50R.
Even the /nbl stuff doesnt help.
This BIOS implements a Write Protect which prevents further BIOS updates unless you use the in-BIOS update menu.
Only way I found was to replace the BIOS chip :( ended up hot flashing an A7N8X motherboard with the shuttle BIOS then swapping bios chips.
I just use a Biostar eeprom
Yeah, thats the best way. I now keep a Shuttle BIOS eeprom and a Biostar BIOS eeprom.Quote:
Originally posted by cpulloverclock
ok
I just use a Biostar eeprom
The Biostar BIOS doesnt seem to initialise the volt regulators correctly (especially the Vldt regulator) so the way I do it is:
1. boot with shuttle bios and set up voltages
2. save settings and reboot
3. hot swap to biostar bios & reboot
4. configure memory timings with biostar bios (dont touch the voltage settings)
5. save settings and reboot into windoze
the voltages set in the first step will then be retained.
EDIT: A BIOS Saviour would make this easier :)
SuperPi at 24/7 settings. :toast:
This is with cpc on, 13/15 alpha timings 1333334. DFI infinity, xp-m.
:D Here is mine too..
Best I can do with my Mushkin LVL2 1:1 @ 3.3 vdimm :( Even with more volts or lower multi, it doesn't want to go further :stick:
8M record @ 5454MHz by Vigor:
http://v-tec.hp.infoseek.co.jp/L411A...1733V-265S.jpg
That just hurts my eyes :D
:D :D :D Bud CPU' s those Prescott' s :D
already posted :D but I like to see it againQuote:
Originally posted by macci
8M record @ 5454MHz by Vigor:
http://v-tec.hp.infoseek.co.jp/L411A...1733V-265S.jpg
That just hurts my eyes :D
SAE and other with DFi board :slobber:
My NF7-S rev 2.0 cant not go over 230 so far :rolleyes:
But i got 34 sec.
http://www.mainboard.dk/upload/files/moo.JPG
I get 34 @ 218 FSB too.....
My cpu max out at 3240 MHz :/
Nice one anyway :)
I would love to get my cpu to its max, if only the board would not limit me... I am quite sure I would get it to 3.2GHz at least with 255fsb or so...
I cannot knack the 31s now because of that, but I am quite nearby...
I'll have to try on.
SAE Get win2003 serve r :) and you have what you want :p
Do you really think the 32bit server could get me the second? :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by EmineM
SAE Get win2003 serve r :) and you have what you want :p
Hmm. I doubt it, but maybe the higher bench values (4M to 32m) would gain some seconds...
My 2400-M maxed out @ 3.1ghz @ 2v. I didn't have vsense at the time because my board used to do 2.2v without it.
I think they put some life in these DFI. They do whatever they want, whenever they feel like.:D
The Win2003 Server Evaluation Copy slightly modified to workstation ( 32 bit copy ) Gave me a 1 second improvement.
I had 31 seconds running my P4 EE @ 4.25 GHZ 5/4 and afterwards I had 30 seconds.
Yes it gave me a nice push so I assume it is worth a try.
Evaluation Copy? Where?:)
Hehe. Thanks. I'll try it then :)
when I said that win2k3 was better... :)
:banana:
http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/1184.JPG