Yes. People said that there is no problem with this behavior.
I saw a Abit P965 that do this "reset". And other Asus do.
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Yes. People said that there is no problem with this behavior.
I saw a Abit P965 that do this "reset". And other Asus do.
I'm using 0805 firmware. This behavior of power-off -> 1s delay ->power-on only happens after a save in bios ( 1st reboot ). Otherwise the boot is normal.
It does that to ensure a "cold boot" that is the only "explanation" I can think of.
I must say this board has gotten better and better since the earlier days.
If it had more PCIe slots and full AOD support I could almost get another one;)
Lack of full AOD support is the big drawback of this board...
By the way I am talking with the developer of SetFSB for support ICS 9LPRS477BKL(clock generator) but I need the datasheet of it. I can't find in IDT website... If someone know where can I find it, tell me.
PM me an email i'll send it to you. (9lprs477c, specs work on M3A,DFI790FX and GBT780G)
EDIT: Saw you already did, so I mailed the specs to you.
All boards i saw with that chip use the m/n method to define the ref HT. The divider part differs between boards and sometimes with different ref HT's.
The formular i figured out is.
ref HT = m/(n*d) * f
For the CPU PLL the factor f is 50 on the GBT board. For the other clocks this factor is 14.31818. Normaly the factor should be 100 according to the specs. that's abit odd.
The second divider d(CPUDivRatio) must be looked up from a table. (see Byte20).
SetFSB is a great "little" (size wise) program,would be great to use it on a desktop,
and not just a laptop at work :up::)
Got the new AOD installed and it's showing that both sticks are in chanel "A".
They're in the first 2 (from the cpu) slots:
Other combinations get the AOD to hang when you start it, getting better but
still work to do for Asus:)
So does setfsb work on the M3A?
BTW Could you post a link for the clock gen data sheet?
EDIT::
So I emaild the setfsb dev and he replayed like an as:down:
He says:
There is not your greeting in this E-mail.
There is not your handle in this E-mail.
I think that you do not know politeness.
I do not support you. Please resign oneself it.
So I asked he for a link to the source.
SetFSB isn't working in M3A yet... I already sent the datasheet to him and now I am waiting.
Here the link: http://rapidshare.com/files/12390662...S477C.pdf.html
I was looking trough this tread and used the search, but can't find any hits.
Is there a Vcore and perhaps Vddr mod for this board ?
CRFX posted a pic for a vcore and nbcore mod here
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=400
What does the mod do?
Oh, cool thanks for the info!
Does anyone use speedfan?
I do, and temp1 gets hot, like 50C, while core stays cool at like 24C.
I have felt around the mobo, and the cpu HS is cool but the small black one that says ASUS get warm.
So is temp1 for the black HS? Whats under it and why does it get so hot?
I have changed the grease for the big HS above the video card to AS5 but when I tried to do it for the black one I could not get the clips off.
I think I would be able to get better oc's if it was cooler.
What do you think?
any of you had the problem ionstalling the audio drivers?
can't install them
tried several times also installing first sp3...drivers from cd and online asus..can't get it to work
This option is for change the operation mode of front panel conector...
To install drivers in XP download the realtek HDA driver:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/...&GetDown=false
my buddy has this board (asus m3a-h) with 4 x 2gb g.skill pc6400 sticks...
would uping the northbridge voltage help out a little since there is so much memory?
stock is 1.3v right? maybe uping it to 1.3125 or 1.3250?
Would just like to say that the latest 90X bios is the first new bios since 40X that didnt trash my overclock! same exact settings are still stable... on the other hand I didn't exactly gain anything by upgrading either lol (I keep thinking some new bios is going to get me 100 more mhz or make it start scaling with voltage).
Hi INFORMAL, and everyone else.
yesterday i stayed 3 hrs trying to OC my PHENOM X4 9750 on the ASUS M3A
the max i got was 2.7Ghz @ 55C Load / ~38C IDLE running PRIME95 for 7hrs
Does anyone else have this CPU & Motherboard and has successfully overclocked it past that point with a moderate heatsink?
I have a CoolerMaster TX2
Ive got my RAM @ 667 set and CPU-Z states the ram @ 408Mhz - my RAM is 4x1GB Kingston DDR2-800 ValueRam
I set the Voltage a tad higher than stock @ 1.26V instead of 1.25v
Please assist, i dont think 2.7 is a good clock above the stock 2.4
yes i did, from 1.25V ( i believe is stock) to 1.265V
i dont wanna raise it more, i think 55C on load is heaps.
but i didnt touch the NB or SB voltage they're on auto
and i didnt touch the NB multiplier its auto,
only thing i done is raise CPU MUlti to 11x
set RAM speed to 667
increase voltage to 1.26V
and set FSB to 245.
but im sure i can get more than 2.7 on this phenom guys.
Ok ill try that SocketMan - thanks for the reply. however last thing i remembered was setting the NB Multi @ 11x same as CPU.
ill try 7. shoudlnt they be identical?
common guys there must be SOMEONE here with a Phenom 9750 and an ASUS M3A that culd give me some values :)
hehehe
ok SocketMan, im running the NB-Multi @ 7x and the CPU-Multi @ 11x
with an FSB of 245 its running @ 2.7Ghz
what do you suggest i do without killing my RAM
decrease multi increase FSB or vice versa.
i tried CPU-Multi @ 12x and FSB @ 240 = 2.88Gz but crashed prime :(
Well the good thing about k10 is that your ram speed stays
at whatever you set it at,and does not change with different multi's .It will increase as the HTT (fsb) speed is increased,
so you could try setting your RAM to a lower divide (DDR400/533) and slowly increase the HTT(fsb).
Keep in mind thou that you're in the area (mhz) where Voltage increase is a "must".
Also many people with 9850be get stuck in the same or lower
mhz "area".:)
Ok well im running it as you sugegsted earlier:
CPU-FSB = 245 (showing 2.7Ghz in CPU-Z)
NB-Multi = 7x
CPU-Multi = 11x
Vcore = 1.26v (opposed to 1.25v stock)
RAM=667 (showing 410Mhz in CPU-Z)
Ok so if i decrease my RAM down to 400.... and increase the FSB - woudlnt that degrade my RAM speed?
also what voltage is a MUST to increase? the RAM or Vcore?
I dont think i can add anymore on the VCore its running Idle @ ~37C and Load @ ~57C (running prime for 4 hrs)
Hi mr1c3man :)
Did you try to increase the Vcore at all?Please try to get the chip to 1.3V and verify this with some software tool,like Everest,Speed Fan or Hardware monitor.
57 degrees is not that much,watch the temps not to cross 65C.
hi Informal!
OK The temps i got readings from CoreTemp 0.99? is that unreliable?
because my heatsink isnt as good as yours.
Ill try 1.28V and creep up to 1.3
But plz tell me what other settings i need to set... i.e FSB, NB-Multi, Multi, etc
SocketMan gave some good suggestions.Any reason why you run the 11x multiplier for the CPU?12x can't get you to 2.7ghz stable?Since every time you drop the CPU multi the greater the chance you can't hit higher OC since the board is HTT limited(can't push higher HTT).Try using the 12x muliti.
AS for memory speed,Phenoms do work better with higher mem. speeds but try to keep the memory around 800Mhz,cas 5.Also set 2T timing mode to ON in dram configuration,don't leave it at auto.Disable all spread spectrums.Try to raise the NorthBridge voltage after you hit a wall again(don't know if the board has NB voltage control since i use X2).
Also,set memory manually to cas 5-5-5-5-18-25.Set dram cycle time to 127ns for all slots.
If you still have some issues,try disabling CoolNQuiet in BIOS,maybe it will help some.
But mostly you are very likely limited with you Vcore.Try to get it around 1.3V or 1.35V.The B3 revision starts to get to higher clocks around 1.4V but you are limited with your temps.
Good luck!
yeah my board has NB & SB Voltage control.
ive tried running it at 12x multi and set FSB slightly lower, it crashed but ill try again with 2T set to ON rather than AUTO
when you said keep memory at 800Mhz, does that mean showing 400 in CPU-Z? (as in adjusting the FSB)?
Im gonna have to give the 12x multi another shot... ok so ill leave RAM @ 667 or drop to 400?
PS As SocketMan said, without increasing the Northbridge yet, the heatsink is burning hot. lolll
Try using 12 multiplier with 225Mhz HTT(equals 2.7Ghz).Set memory to 667Mhz in BIOS.Also the HT overall speed can be equal to or less than NB core clock speed but must NOT be greater.So the total speed CPUz reports for HyperTransport(called "HT Link") must be same or lower than "Northbridge frequency"that is reported under memory tab in CPUz!
You can use AMD Overdrive and see all the clocks in question very easily:
http://www.thetechrepository.com/att...1&d=1207496592
Here is the K10 OCing guide which can help you some in your OCing trials:
http://www.thetechrepository.com/sho...?p=999#post999
ok so if i set my core Multi t0 x12
do i leave the NB multi at x7 or up it to x10 or x11?
Also Thanks Informal & SocketMan for your suggestions,
ill try the 12multi
ill try the manual timings u sugegsted
ill try increase the vcore bit more =)
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do i leave the NB multi at x7 or up it to x10 or x11?
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NB multi?? Is that just for phenoms?
hmm no idea..i just have that option.
Socket & Informal, this is ridiculous,
i just got home to try the core multi @ 12 and NB multi @ 10 and ran SPEEDFAN instead of Coretemp
the IDLE TEMP IS 42-44C!
What the hell?
is this ok? i put a small amount of heatsink paste and i got the CoolerMaster HyperTX2. this chip is crap i reckon
Nb multiplier applies only for K10.
Speedfan reports the right temps, yes, 40 + temps at idle sounds right to me, what voltage are you running?
@mr1c3man: What is the max vcore you can choose in the bios with the 9750?
Umm i ran 1.27V as opposed to 1.25V
and the load temp shot to 65C and it froze on prime
its unlimited, i can go up to like 2.5V or sumtin stupid
basically what i found was:
setting CPU multi @ 11
NB Multi @ 7
DRAm @ 667
FSB = 246 brought it to 2.7Ghz stable
now i set the CPU multi @ 12 and NB multi @ 10x and decreased the FSB, it was unstable..
It sounds like quite high temps i must admit, I got 57 degrees under load with my 9500 at 1,4 vcore under water. A reseating of the hfs might do good?
I'd love to which one is correct cause only, one thing has come close too my bois. H/w montior which 36C in bios and 45C on 1.55Vcore.
I use AOD sometimes. but it's the same temps as core temp 0.99.
core temp says I idle at 39-41C. sometimes 36C-37C.
speed fan say 23-30C idle
Can be your PSU's 4pin 12V rail can not provide enough current. That was my limit here with the 9850BE. I repoorted that a few pages back.
Hmm i asked around before getting this CPU if my PSU will handle it.
they all said yes. but looks like only for a stock
I think the one i have is a 95W as my mobo only supports UPTO 95W CPU. but still yeah big difference from my 65W AMD X2. so i guess it normal?
because i reseated the heatsink 3 times. and forgot its 30W greater.
OK.. @ 1.26V , its load temps on prime = ~58-59C (remember its Winter in Australia lol)
so Informal and Socket and everyone else, it makes me think twice at going anymore than that (and i wont unless i get a better heatsink later on).
I tried the 12x multi with a 8x, 9x, 10x NB Multi it bluescreened at prime.
so i thought let me see if i can OC it via FSB
so i dropped the multi to 10x and NB @ 7x and raised FSB.
my RAM in CPUZ read at 417Mz since i set it to 667.
when i ran a BLENDED TEST (tests RAM) it bluescreened, when i ran the SMALLTEST (CPU mostly test, little ram test) it didnt, AND I WAS ON 2.8Gz!
so should i down the ram to 533 or 400???
So far the most stable running prime for 10hrs was @ 2.7Ghz with a 11x multi, 7x NB multi, 245 FSB, 1.26V and 667 RAM running @ 405mhz
I left 2T ENABLED and didnt set the timings as its on AUTO CPUZ reported it at 5-5-5-15-20 is that good?
Yea I'd say that's pretty good:)
Right now your ram is running @ 405 which is 810mhz(DDR)
If you increase your HTT (aka FSB) and get a freeze, it would mean that
it's either your RAM or your CPU.
Ideally, if we want to find our max cpu,
then we should lower the RAM (set it to 400-DDR =the lowest possible) that way we'll know that it's not the ram causing the freeze up.
Just so you know a 9850be comes with the default voltage of 1.3v so
using 1.26v is pretty safe.
Another thing is the AOD: by clicking the "circle" from red to green your
temps can go down by 10c (on the stock heat sink)
If you really worried about the temps: don't run PRIME just leave it on idling:
do some net browsing etc...,run some benchmarks, if it's unstable it will crash without prime in a few hours max ;)
Hey Socket...
OK thats my last straw, setting RAM to absolute minimum (so i wont try 533?)
im pretty certain i cannot do 12x on this mobo.
so i gotta stick to CPU-Multi @ 11x and NB Multi @ 7 and just raise the FSB to like 260.
this bloke on another forum posted his Penom 9550 @ 2.9Ghz with a 265FSb and Multi @ 11x
how did that green button drop my temp by 10C???
No go guys.
10x wont work, and neither would 12 or 13x work, even with the ram low on 533..it boots @ 2.9Ghz but then when i run prime95 it crashes, i suspect it requires a higher temp than 1.27V maybe 1.3V but if its idling at 42C on 1.26V i dont wanna see what it does on 1.3V. i left the NB-Multi at 7x, 9x and 10x on 3 diff occassions
it basically fkd with 2.7Ghz from a stock 2.4Ghz, what a complete shame man. i shulda just got an Intel Q6600.
my bro got that and its same as the phenom stock @ 2.4Ghz, he goes it running stable as concrete @ 3.5Ghz
i would bet it's the ram, and i have had alot of problems with this board and 4 sticks of ram. I'm currently just running 2 sticks. check your bios too, there are links in here for newer bios files, i'm not sure which one you might be running.
yeah i have a feeling its the ram too.
because at most times when i run prime95 with SMALL FFT test (min RAM TESTED) it will work ok
when i do a BLENDED test, it would crash. so...and ive downed the RAm to 533 and 400 which then i needed to drastically up the voltage to compensate which wasnt an option either. but im very very dissapointed with this.... 2.4 -> 2.7 :(
im running latest BIOS 0805
Even one wrong timing or 2 could "help" you fail the "blend" test.
Can't argue with a q6600 it's a much less complicated and time consuming
route:
1.
up the fsb
2.
up the NB & cpu Voltage
done
I knew all that before I got the phenom btw;)
Different strokes for different folks :)
there is a 901 bios here ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socketAM2/M3A/ i have it installed and i haven't had any ill affects from it.
What I am saying is that one thing out of 20 or more could cause
havoc on any AM2+ board.
Also pressing F4 will open up some extra BIOS settings on the m3a
You can test your RAM by setting the cpu to the lower frequency to keep the
temps low and then running the "blend" test.
If there is a problem with the RAM P95 will give an error,even with the cpu set
to 1000mhz.
The main point thou: Phenom is a very new and different "beast" which
requires a lot of patience,time and learning from anyone who decided to own one.:)
That's the one I am running as well.
I'd say the advantages are the little "things" (like RAM "auto" values)
that Asus improves over time.
Hit F4 set to "unganged" and select "manual" for the RAM timings:
there is about 2 pages :eek: of settings, most are 'auto"
Anyhow I still think you'll need a "healthy" Vcore increase in order to obtain
higher CPU freq.
I just looked at your cooler on newegg.
Go down about half way and some guy says
"Pros: this cheap amazing cooler keeps my amd quad 9750 oc at 3.1ghz at 30 idle and 45 at full load.there is a plastic guard that is in the back of the cooler and blows air to cool north bridge.good idea. i had no problems putting this in with my socket am2. dident have to use push pins they can be removed.
Cons: none
Other Thoughts: get this "
What kind of thermal paste are you using?
How much did you add?
After you put the paste on and then the heatsink,do not remove and reinstall the HS as an air bubble will form and you will overheat.
spread the paste with your finger in a thin layer, then install the HS and make sure its tight.
use AS5 thermal paste.
It might also be your Power supply.
it only has +12V1@17A for the cpu. Im not sure how much the quad core needs but that might not be enough.
It also might be that you don't have enough air circulation in your pc case.
New bios 0902:
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...n-us&model=M3A
Description 0902 BIOS for M3A
1.Resolve crashFree III function fail issue.
2.Adjust CPU temperature offset for certain CPUs.
Hey I just flashed the 902 bios. I'm running a 9600 and OCZ 1066 ram. This bios wont post when set to 1066 mode. In auto it starts up as 667 mode, even with the ram voltage raised. Any Ideas were I may have gone wrong?
Solarpowered may be subtimings? Press F4 to see them.
I flashed and didn'nt see anything new...
I was aware of the F4 option and have tried various combinations of settings on and off and tweaked to no avail. Never had any issues with previous bios revisions. Suppose this one just isnt right for my particular sytem configuration.
Hey Arthur,
thanks for lookn up myheatsink info.thats the one i have.
Umm im using this no-brand heatsink its golden paste. should i try a different one? and yes i reseated the heatsink after applying the paste because i couldnt get it in right.
i dont have a very good circulation in the case either... but i just custom installed a fan that blows air out of the case from the side.
should i reseat the HS u think?
My Powersupply is running my video card + 2 hdds, + 2 fans + 2 CDRW everyone said that shuld be fine.
GET THIS
i ran 3DMARk 06 and got a shameful 10,000 points only 900 points up from my X2 Dual Core @ 3.1Ghz. what a waste of money :(
how did the other guy get it to 3.1????
Hummmm? Didn't I reply earlier today?
Arghhh, it was pretty long, so i will make this short.
Ok , mr1c3man
that golden paste got to go.
Get AS5
Also what case do you have? How many fans? Where to they blow?
Hi Arthur.
ok ill try a diff one.
i got a cheapo case with one fan at the back i swapped the fan for a Thermaltake one (80mm) which takes air out of the case
then i custom installed a side case one 80mm which also takes air out
ALSO
i got it at 2.88yest with a multi of 12x an NB multi of 6x
vcore @ 1.27V and ram @ 667 running @ 400Mhz in cpu-z
i ran Prime95 for 1hr running the 1st test which says "tests "some ram" but more cpu" it ran fine. but i think when i run the BLENDED test (tests everything, lots of ram tested) it blue screens. what does that mean??
New bios at asus website - 1001 for M3A.
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...map&mapindex=0
Anyone already tested it ?
I took my M3a +9600be to work,damn spreadsheets need a lot of power :rofl: I did flash something a few days ago
not sure if it was 1001 or 902 will check on Monday.
I know the AOD 2.1.2 works (still crippled of course) nice
colors and all.
Thanks for the link.:up:
My board died. Froze up yesterday and I hit restart, everything went along fine so I went for a drink. came back and screen had no signal. Now it gives a single "im fine" beep on startup then stays blank and eventually gives two short beeps and never displays anything. Tested video card in dif computer, it is fine, tried PCI card in this one, no luck. First two slots give bad ram beep code (Always have), second two do the same ol two short beeps after a 10 second pause thing. Tried each piece of ram in each slot, no luck. Cleared cmos over night. Board is dead.
Everyone else still have healthy boards?
My M3A just came back from RMA, in worse condition than when I sent it in. ><
Dang, stinkin asus. Makes me feel real good knowing Ive got to RMA my board to them and I also just bought an Asus 4850 :(
Ive had the same from MSI also, they sent me a board back from RMA that lasted all of 2 months back in the day (Infinity Plat nf3).
Maybe they think if they screw us enough times we will give up after losing more to shipping costs than the price of a new board.
I'd rather they say, "Look, we aren't going to fix or replace this so just buy something else. SB600 was crappy anyway!"
i just threw the new bios on my m3a and i had the ht up to 270 with my 9500 with the cpu multi @8.5 LOL and i had to drop the nb multi down to 6 to get it to boot. Every bench i ran ended up either the same as , or a little better than all auto settings in bios. Still messing around with all the settings to see if there's some magic combination to get above 2.8 on air.
Flashed the BIOS to 1001 and I didn't see any news...
Any VCore Mods for this Board available?
ST L6740L ist the regulator..... maybe anybody can post a vcore mod for this chip?
THANKS A LOT !!!! :)
Thanks A Lot !!!!!!!!! :)
Hi people. I am having problems to install Windows Vista in AHCI mode. In the second part of install process the pc hangs and the HD led freeze light.
Yes it's a known problem with AHCI mode and SB600.Try installing Vista in IDE mode and then after it installs try to follow these instructions to get it to work in AHCI mode:
http://www.vistax64.com/drivers/1716...tml#post793834
edit:
official MS advice:
http://www.vistax64.com/drivers/1716...tml#post793834
how do u make sound work with the hdmi connection on this board?
edit: nm it works jsut kinda choppy on the 60 inch screen....gotta get a 4670 or something....
Hey guys
I dont wanna interupt ur overclocking, but hopefully you guys can help me. I have a Phenom 9600 with Asus M3a, bios 1001,XFX 8800GT 512mb XT, 4 gb ram(2 x 1gb DDR2800, 1 x 2GB DDR2 800). I feel im not getting the performance in games that i should be getting.
Could some1 pls post the best bios settings for this set up for me?
I dont really mind Overclocking it a little bit, but im not that experienced with OC'ing altho I have messed around with it a bit.
Thanks in advance
Evax
i also have the asus M3A board and got myself a AMD phenom II x3 720 BE
and was told that you can unlock the 4th core on asus M3A boards. and that it needs a moded bios. i did some looking around. iv seen some bios for other boards in the series but not the M3A basic anybody know if any of the other bios's work or if there is one for that board? id like to get a free core ^^;
I'm using an Athlon II 620 one my M3A. I flashed the Bios 1108, everything works great, but I couldn't increase the Vcore over 1,3V?!
At the Jumper Free Configurations, I can set the Vcore about 1,6V, but the mainboard doesn't apply values over 1,3V:confused:
Anyone a clue how the values can be fixed?
BTW with a vcore of 1,3V I was able to overclock the CPU about 3,36Ghz;) (stock is 2,6Ghz)
I am using a Phenom II X3 720BE and here the vcore doesn't apply over 1.55V. Using BIOS 1008 now. Maybe you should try k10stat to raise this limit.
I tried already to raise the limit with k10stat, but it didn't worked. the vcore decreased to 1,248V when I increased the voltage with k10stat o.O
Hey guys, i read all the way through this but i am still quite confused. I have the m3a and also a phenom 9550 with a good air cooler. I increased the FSB to 222 and decreased my HT so that it came out the same. So that increased my phenom from 2.2 to 2.44 but it also increased my ram from 800 to 880. I can not for the life of me find how to divide the ram to make it run slower. I read somewhere... that its auto or something, but it is definitely increased. could some one help me out. thanks
There should be a setting for the memory dividers:
1066/800/667/533/400
The default is auto - needs to be set to manual.
I'l take a look which subsection it's under -when I get back home
(if I remember).
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The voltage is limited to 1.275 in the BIOS -for the X2 250 (that's in it atm)
The AOD allows up to 1.375 for CPU and CPUnb so I set a lower multi in the
BIOS then boot up,run AOD increase the voltage,then increase the cpu multi.
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Also one of the SETFSB version -supports HTT increase from windows.
ENABLE AHCI under VIsta Win 7
As long as you have the Southbridge and regular Mobo drivers installed do this.
To resolve this issue, enable the AHCI driver in the registry before you change the SATA mode of the boot drive. To do this, follow these steps:
1.Exit all Windows-based programs.
2.Click Start, type regedit in the Start Search box, and then press ENTER.
3.If you receive the User Account Control dialog box, click Continue.
4.Locate and then click the following registry subkey:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Msahci
5.In the right pane, right-click on the word (Start) in the Name column, and then click Modify.
6.In the Value data box, type 0, and then click OK.
7.On the File menu, click Exit to close Registry Editor.
This will take about a few minutes to do.
Vista dosnt Load a AHCI drive 99% of the time. By doing the Above your Enabling the Driver. You will reboot when done with Regedit and in theBIOS Change your SATA to AHCI mode.
hey guys, i worked out the ram problem, instead of the other options you just press limit and then the ram will stay at whats it's supposed to be at. i have hit another snag, there is more then 1 voltage, there are voltages for the nb and sb. should i up all the voltages (apart from the ram) to the same voltage? or just up the cpu voltage?
I would keep the SB voltage at the minimum (~1.2v) or just one notch up,otherwise there is more heat and no performance gain.