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Waiting very impatiently for updates. This project is what inspired me to try out some chilled water myself.
so once ur famous u might want to have a new name...something that makes u sound smart and cool. not that sweeper sounds lame. But its no Superman. Then get ripped and tan... so then all those computer loving chicks will dig ya... even if you do have a wife... u just tell her it all for publicity and all the photoshoots... only exteme systems will know why you really did it. ;) :D im only joking Sweeper. But make sure i get a copy of ur picture and signature in the mail once u get ur first 1,000,000 dollar check from wired magazine or from how ever many companies decide to support and publicize your project.
damn i drove everyone away with that comment. Well hows the whole "getting off of being away all the time" thing going?
Beautiful stuff! This is going to be amazing. Thanks for sharing Sweeper! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweeper
take it easy on the "reply to thread" button :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by |\|EW|3
Well guys, I'm finally home and now its time to start back on completing this project. I didn't realize that I've been working out of town for the past 10 months.....I've really lost a lot of time on this build. Well, I have a lot of work ahead of me and I will be working the weekend to finishing some of the changes I started. I also have a few evaporators to make for some guys.
So, I'm glad you guys were patient and continued to post your comments to help encourage me to finish this build. I'm really looking forward to finishing this project. :D
how comes you lost so much time in the project? I think lost is not the precise word.. :)
Hurry up!!!! lol
WOW!
Everything looks amazing, great job.
Happens to me all the time ... lol ... damn, happened again :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by teybertake it easy on the "reply to thread" button :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by |\|EW|3
It's all good
:):devil::D
Pascal
Well, let's hope you never do ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweeper
It's like a good book ... you never want the fun to stop.
I guess all good things must have an end ... and what an end it will be !
It's all good
:):devil::D
Pascal
Quote:
Originally Posted by delacroixp
there you go again ! lol :rofl:
Simply wow...With nehalem you have a whole new level of cooling need to apply to your creation.
Glad you are back on the project. I am anxious to see how it will work.
How many CPU's could your system comfortably chill ???
I was recently reading about the Cray CX1 supercomputer which can support up to 16 Intel quad-core Xeon processors, 256 GB RAM,
1600 watt PSU and runs Windows or Linux (specs) .
It's wierd how most of the supercomputers of the world today are using off the shelf PC parts (Intel or AMD).
In the old days supercomputers had all the exotic stuff but now everybody is pretty much using the same thing (supercomputers simply use many more).
I guess it's equality at its best.
It's all good
:):devil::D
Pascal
If I finally get this thing completed:confused:....it will be cooling only one CPU and high end gaming components. This system will not be used for 24/7 use, probably couldn't afford the power bill. :rolleyes: I'm waiting on a few parts and I will have the SS completed. I will be posting pics soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by delacroixp
Later
shweet. So after this whole project is a success, and you decide that you wont be using it anymore, i hope you will remember the one guy who called first dibs on that beast.
I jsut can't believe I haven't seen this thread before!
Dude, you got some amazing work there!
Even I would try to waterchill my system after reading all the 21 pages so far... and it was just no enough.... I could read 100+ more pages of this project!! lol!
Amazing.. simply put.
Keep up the good work!
^^ Agreed, this is the best, most interesting, most addictive thread on XS, and possibly the whole internet!
I've never seen anything quite so awesome as this project. I just got into water cooling, you're not helping my addiction one bit with this my friend lol. KEEP IT UP! :up:
It's a goliath time frame too! Holy shyte!
perfection takes time. I will lurk
Wow 21 pages of nothing but cooling/case buliding.
Even without the PC in there yet it looks great!
I enjoy examining your method of hydrocooling. I was thinking about taking on a project similar to your Goliath but I have no time in the world to do it. I may take a spare refrigerator/freezer apart and put something together more quick and simple. It would certainly be nice to have time like this. Thanks for your pictures.
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Originally Posted by MarcusG
If your looking to build a simple water chiller, then the best system to assemble would be to buy a condenser unit that is rated for the watts you will be cooling and a plate HX. You can find some good deals on Ebay to buy most of your parts. But, even going this route, you need to consider the tools and supplies you need to put the system together. This can be a very expensive hobby and it may be best to have someone build you a system for your needs.
I lost count of how much money I spent since I started building my system. I admit, I've went a little over the top, but its something I enjoy doing.:D
I was thinking of posting all the pics that were lost from the last XS crash....but, I'm not sure if XS is still updating there server. I have new updates....is it safe to post without fear of losing them.:rolleyes:
Why not post them somewhere like Photobucket, and just [IMG] them? If you're really paranoid, you could even backup your post with notepad. Save it as a simple text file then if there is a crash, it's just a matter of copy-and-pasting. ;)
Its safe to post, there are no new databases coming in so were working with what we have ;)
that said its probably good to have a txt doc of your worklog (copy paste before each post) thats what I have started doing for my important stuff.
Thanks guys for your reply. I was just making sure everthing was working properly, before I start posting again.:D
This thread was a GREAT read, and looking forward to a completed project!
post those updates! this is my favorite XS worklog by far
I've tried to post pictures, but the attachment function will not accept them. I tried URL attachment and nothing works.
OMG I need to see pics Admin please fix this for our buddy sweep
I've been using imageshack.us for years...I've got somewhere around 18-19 Thousand pics uploaded there :D
[ IMG ]image.jpg[ /IMG ]
yes?
for instance:
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4...cooling010.jpg
I tried imageshack and it still will not accept the URL... if gives invalid error. I can post link to the picture in message box, but cannot attach files. I guess there is nothing more I can do until the problem is corrected. Sorry guys.:shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberDruid
Did you post this picture? This is the picture I was testing to see if it would post.Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
I just put it in image tags, I'm confused, what exactly is your issue your having?
I still cannot add pictures with URL function. I can attach pictures in message box....but, they are thumbnail size. I have to click on the thumbnail and it takes me to imageshack and then click again to see the picture. I know I'm doing something wrong, because I don't use imageshack. Why, did you guys delete the attachment function to where you could attach photos from my computer....it was so much easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
add the images to image shack and pick the size and check it in the box and click browse and upload copy the bolded black link that sais DIRECT LINK, Use [ IMG ][ /IMG ] tags and URL in between
YGPMQuote:
Originally Posted by Sweeper
still lurking, very nice work. Photobucket works for me. Thnx MM.
I finally got imageshack to work. I'm in process of organizing the pics and will be posting soon. Sorry, for the confusion on my part. Thanks for the support from you guys.
Weee Haaaa. You know we need to see moar.
Here are a few pics of the progress I've made on the SS. I will be posting more this weekend as I'm assembling the system.
Monting tube for the heat exchanger
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Receiver I made for the SS
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Mounting tube for the CPEV
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Evaporator and wiring panel I made for the cooling chamber
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Condenser I made for the SS
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Fan shroud I made for the condenser
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Condenser assembled with 190 CFM fan
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SS case was reinforced to handle the weight of the compressor
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Well, thats it for tonight, but there will be more this weekend.
very clean work. I can't believe you had your shroud tig welded. If only
Chrysler put half so much thought and effort into my truck...
looks great Sweeper
I've completed the assembly of the SS and now pressure testing for leaks...so far everything looks good. I'm working on installing the controller for the system and then, I will move to completing the cooling chamber.
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Dear Santa. Find This Sweeper. and give him what ever the hell he wants for Christmas.
Hi. Fantastic work, sweeper. Just mind-blowing.
I do have a question though. All these close-up shots are great for showing all the detail in the work that you've been doing, but I've kinda lost track of where everything is mounted in your fantastic case in relation to each other. Could we have a quick full-case shot just to show where everything is now? Kind of like this one but filled in! ;-) Thanks.
I have a little update on the build. I finished installing the controller and wiring. As stated in last post, I will start working on installing the new closure panels inside the cooling chamber. I'm changing the motherboard tray to set horizonal and changing water blocks for the two GTX 285's and NB. In the end I will be using EVGA Classified mobo, i7 920 DO stepping and SLI GTX 285.
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After looking at the above the first thought that comes to mind is...
"Dear Lord in heaven did you get it "right"
Absolutely beautiful from any angle.:clap:
MDPC?
that thing looks so amazing....
For the love of all that is holy...
Incredible!
Absolutely brilliant! I just love every aspect of this project. Superb.
did you do the welding yourself on the fan shroud? cause those are some nice tig welds :)
I know i said this previously in the thread but this is by far in a way the best system build Ive ever seen
great!
Now I understand that your overwhelmed but comments on "THIS" rig deserve more than one word!:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by teyber
I posted a few shots of this rig over at Guru3D and the response has been amazement at the very least.
now I understand the disposition of things... gorgeous my friend!! BRAVO, congrats for such skills !!
JEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZUZ KRAIST!!!!
Man, what's your system spec.? Anything short of a classified board in that thing would be an abomination. I would gladly contribute 'something' to have you put in hardware deserving of that much cooling powa!
Thanks everyone for you compliments and support! This has been a very long and stressful build, but I hope it will be something to be proud of in the end.:D
Thanks for the offer..... I am seriously looking for a dead, damaged or cheap EVGA X58 motherboard, so I can do a mock-up in the cooling chamber. I don't want to use a new EVGA Classified.:shocked: Any help would be greatly appreciated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
literally perhaps? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
million dollar pc :) thats what he meant
:rofl::ROTF: Must beQuote:
Originally Posted by lotek
:shock: :eek2:
just outstanding. easily the best build and log iv ever seen.
You should send EVGA a link to this thread, alot of pis, and tell them what you are wanting to do. Maybe you can get a sponsor ship (they could make and send you something worthy of being put on her for advertising) or at the very least, they can/should send you a dead board? They might be able to give you a discount too for what ever else you need (tri sli)? It would be great advertising and also show what their product can do (as I'm sure you will be able to push it). Maybe try and get a ram company too?
And as always: Just Awsome!
+1 on working the sponsorship angle. Super nice, fapping-good build
Thanks for the heads up about contacting EVGA. I sent them an email to the marketing department, asking for help with the motherboard. I've purchased two GTX 285's and the i7 920 DO stepping processor. All I need now is the EVGA X58 Classified mobo and Corsair Dominator GT memory. But, I'm running low on funds, after all the money I've put into this build. So, I will have to wait a little longer to find good deals on the remaining components. It sure would be great if EVGA pulled through for me.:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shalamay
Lend the money and fire up your battlestation and sell tickets to see it in action, its just like seeing shuttle launch!
So... this may be a silly question, and apologies if it's already been answered, but now that you have the SS for your CPU where the hard drives were going to go, where are you going to mount your hard drives? Also, is there any chance you can still water-cool them? As that would be awesome.
Its funny you mentioned the shuttle launch. My wife and friends tell me every time I'm working on the build....." You need a launch pad for that thing, just in case it starts to fly":DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mech0z
The hard drives will be mounted in a Lian-Li EX-33 Expansion Hard Drive Kit, which will be mounted in three 5.25" bays. The last bay will be for the CD-RW drive. I could possibly still watercool the drives, but I don't think it will be necessary. There will be a 120mm fan blowing across the drives and another 120mm fan pulling hot air out of the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by lloydsmart
Looks in for more pics..sees none..cries..:D
I'll be posting pics soon.;) I'm in the process of modifying the cooling chamber. I have a little back-up plan "surprise" coming...this thing has started growing again.:shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
I'm need to estimate the heat load for two overclocked GTX 285's and NB/SB on Evga Classified. I'm guessing around 700 watts.....what do you guys think?
you could probably cut that in half and be closer to a real number...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweeper
I thought the GTX 285 was about 185 watts @ full load....not overclocked and I have no idea what the NB/SB would be. Sure wish there was a way to calculate the heat load.:rolleyes::rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by antiacid
I'm still quite Gobsmacked! or as Americans would say.......... Awesome!
growing agian :eek: man its already insane!!! You have some awesome fab skills everything looks like it was made to be put there lol cant wait to see this thing in action :up:
Nice ping rate!
Perhaps someday everybody can have a sub-100ms ping rate ... anywhere on the planet (good 4 gamers) !!
It's all good
:):mad::D
Pascal
Dunno about anyone else, but I'm starting to get withdrawal symptoms here! :D
Any news?
Pretty much impossible to type the my reaction to this thread in midst of all the other posts, but I must try regardless. :worship: Quite the masterpiece of technology!
I've always appreciated the end-result and DIYness of this stuff, but never quite understood it like I understand watercooling, especially when looking at pictures of refrigerant-cooled computers. Found a few sites that help explain the concept but then I try to understand a true :pimp: of application like this and I go all :slobber:
Gonna go noob for a sec so I can just organize stuff in my mind.
[noob]
Computer Cooling (order of effectiveness)
- Air
- Watercooling
- Chilled Liquid
- Phase Change
- Thermoelectric
- LN2/etc
This refrigerant system is in the chilled liquid forum, but I've also seen refridgerator/air conditioner builds in the phase change forum as well. Is this build only one or both categories? Does the difference have to do with what liquid is being used (refrigerant or water)? I assume normal water blocks are used for the diagram's evaporator function, along with the component's produced heat of course. Does this mean you could safely use the new EVGA X58 Classified full board water block as well - cause that would be total awesomness.
Anyway, here's some guides I found to explain the process, but I'm still at a loss what does what in this system.
The Refrigeration Cycle,
Computer Refrigerant Cooling Thread,
Refrigeration Basics,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...gerationTS.png
[/noob]
Now that I'm out of noob mode, how's the progress on getting components installed?
Sorry guys I've not posted any results lately. I've had few things to take care of on a personal level and I also have to make changes to the cooling system for the liquid loop. My problem is that I don't have enough liquid supply to keep cooled down to maintain low temps for the heat load. The system will only hold 96 ounces of liquid, which heats up fast under a 600 watt load and the heat exchanger cannot cool the liquid down fast enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by lloydsmart
So, I'm building a reservoir with a heat exchanger inside that will be mounted inside the cooling chamber. I will be adding another compressor to cool the liquid, before it circulates through the main heat exchanger and I will have 2 gallons of liquid to cool down.
Making this change will cause me to fabricate all the closure panels inside the chamber again to make room for the reservoir, which will be a lot of work. So, the build has another delay.:shakes: But, in the end, this will be a duel chiller system and should hold the heat load very well....I hope.
The design of the system is three refrigerated cooling systems with different methods of cooling. The first system is a refrigerated air tight cooling chamber, which will cool the air inside the chamber down to subzero temps and remove heat from the motherboard chips. Also, will prevent condensation from the CPU, GPU and NB cooling blocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by liguhy
The second system is a direct die heat exchanger block to remove heat load from the CPU only.
The third system is a duel compressor chiller for cooling the low temp fluid that circulates through two GPU full cover blocks and NB/SB full cover blocks. The blocks will be modified to handle the low temps and fluid pressure of the system. Each block will have separate liquid loops.
This has been a hell of a project to finish. I wish it could have gone together faster, but this is a design build project and there is always something that doesn't work as planned. Hope this helps to explain the beast.
Nice... so the plan is now to chill the liquid as per before, but then to dump it in a reservoir and chill it again via a heat exchanger? And I see that will require another compressor. Does that mean there's another condenser, etc. or do the two systems feed off each other somehow?
Yes, your correct. The liquid will be chilled through the main plate heat exchanger and circulate through the waterblocks. Then the liquid will dump into a reservoir with a heat exchanger inside where it will be chilled again, before recirculating through the main heat exchanger. I will be using a separate condensing unit for the second stage of the chiller. When I'm finished with the build, it will have four condensing units cooling all the components.Quote:
Originally Posted by lloydsmart
So will this fourth system further cool both the CPU and GPU loops? If so, how is that configured, with a Y connection or something? Ever thought about NB/SB/Mosfet cooling blocks or are you going to go stock with the ambient temperature of the inner chamber? How would airflow/fans then cool this stuff?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweeper
Thanks for the explanations - it really helps to fully appreciate the awesomeness. :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by liguhy
The CPU is not cooled with the liquid chiller; it will be cooled with phase exchange system. The chiller has a three outlet distribution manifold which will distribute liquid to two GPU's and NB/SB blocks only. The fourth condensing unit is to remove heat in the reservoir, before the liquid circulates back to the main heat exchanger. Basically a two stage chiller.
This just keeps getting better! Sheer awesomeness! 8-)
But where will this extra chilling system go? Is there room in that already humongous case?
I'm still debating on separate condensing unit outside the case or breaking down the first stage chiller and make room the case. Before I start making changes to the chiller, I will test the reservoir to see if the extra fluid holds the heat load. If not, then the second stage chiller will be added to the build. I hope the extra fluid in the system will hold the heat load, because I really would hate to break down the chiller system.:shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by lloydsmart
WOW,
Just read this whole thread from the front. Simply Amazing! Love the attention to detail you've done, now on with the photo's !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wow i've been reading this thing for almost a year now!!!
and its been going on much longer than that. dude... i can't believe how patient you are.
:D+
Any progress? :)
I've made all the parts needed to make the changes to the chiller, but I have not started assembly. I've been very busy at work and kinda lost interest for a while. I will get back to work on this build, because I spent too much time and money to not complete the project.Quote:
Originally Posted by lloydsmart
Thanks for being patient and contining to follow this progress of the build.
Haha, wow, this is still going? Major kudos for persistence, I rather thought you'd given up.
So did you decide where to put the extra components? I think they'd look better inside the case, but I guess it's a question of what is possible with the size constraints?
I decided to mount the components in the case. I had to disassemble the cooling chamber components and condensing unit underneath to make room for the additional parts. This is one reason I don't have any updates, because the cooling chamber system was completely redesigned to be a two stage system. But, I will get it back together soon and I will share the progress as I get further along.Quote:
Originally Posted by lloydsmart