Good find on the buzz above. Anyone else fixed it via this pint since seeing the post above?
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Good find on the buzz above. Anyone else fixed it via this pint since seeing the post above?
I had the buzzing problem too but fixed it by twisting the coil under full load until it stopped buzzing. Not the best approach but it worked, haven't heard a buzz since then.Quote:
Originally Posted by wazoo99
Well, Jeez, thanks for finally clearing that up. It's not as if anyone had asked previously, or anything... :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandrus
You must be mistaking this forum for a support forum. It's not. Here people share info WHEN and IF they have the time and/or want to.
Hi, I registered to post this as I have been following this thread.
I do believe I have the buzzing issue with the Asus Commando (I get a high-pitched buzz when I run something CPU-intensive), but I don't have ANY hw-modding experience. If I could be so bold as to request a small guide on how to apply the rubber substance that wazoo99 mentioned or the tightening that FreeRider mentioned (how do I tighten this coil thing?).
What seems to be happening is that the coil of wire is vibrating at some harmonic of the freiquency in the core. All you need do is coat the coil (wire) and basically glue it to the core with a non conducting material such as clear acrillic nail polish. This seems to keep the vibration from starting and therefore no buzz. The other method that has been mentioned is to slightly twist the choke assemble as this wiol tighten the wires slightly and also keep the vibration from starting.
My Commando doesnt have that coil harmonics. Although its pretty common, my older Intel D875PBZ motherboard had the same noise under high stress situations.. its normal but annoying and yea just use hot glue to shut its damn mouth!!
BTW, just to mention again, this Commando board doesnt run properly in dual channel mode with Corsair XMS 1GB sticks (CM2X1024-6400) 5-5-5-12
It hangs very quickly in bootup, if i increase the voltage from 1.9v to 1.75 volts it lasts a little longer but hangs again.. this is with 702 bios as well. They better come out with a fix in the next bios! PIssing me off because this same ram worked fine in the Asus P5B-D
I've been waiting a couple days for you guys to post some oc results or findings about the boards quirks and all i keep seeing are posts about the board buzzing.
:horse:
If your board buzzes rma it. If it doesnt do a dance and tell me how it overclocks.:banana:
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8458/46391908tp7.png
This is the best i've been able to do so far. I stopped orthos at this point because the nb sink was pretty hot. I tried it with stock nb volts and orthos failed after about 2 hours. I know it was mentioned a couple weeks ago but the vdroop is awful and one of the main reasons i hated my P5B-Deluxe.
Has anybody removed the stock nb sink yet and if so what did you do about the digital pwm area. This is the first board i've owned with a digital pwm and im not sure if its cool to run that area with no sink. I've got an hr-05 that im itching to throw on this board.
I really dont want to cut the stock one cause i dont want to deal with any crap if i have to rma the board. P5B-Ds have a nasty habit of dying for no reason at all and commando might not be any different.
The buzzing comment was sarcasm for those with that issue, i know how much it sucks to pay for something and it isnt working as you think it should.
Very nice MrDeeds !
Here's my results:
3.84GHz
Currently on BIOS 707. vdroop gets pretty bad at high vcore at 1.65v it gives 1.54 under Orthos load.
Board maxes out at 505Mhz past that I get no boot regardless of FSB termination and NB voltage.
My D-tek Pro Core rad can't keep up with the C2D heat load so I just ordered a pa120.3*hopes it's in stock*,now if have to find a new case for it.
Heh i was about to say that's looking nice and toasty Nanobot. Got one of these boards on order with same mem as you, hopefully i can get it soon and post some results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanobot
Tried to take the HP assembly off but the SB postion is glued on like mad.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDeeds
I would almost have to take the bloody SB chip off the board to take it off.
So pushed the pins on the PWM area then got the NB pins out and got the NB sink portion up enough to use Arctic Cleaner Remover with a Q-tip and the AC Purifier on it after, applied AS5 and temps are pretty good so far 42c is the max it got to using the supplied optional PWM fan.
Thanks, you've got some pretty nice results yourself over there on water.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanobot
As far as max fsb i didnt try my board at all on air so i dont have a max that most people should expect but i was able to boot at 6x550 with all stock volts.
I totally forgot that the sb needs to come off to put on a nb cooler. If its on like the sb sink on my aw9d-max you'll need to heat it up to get it off the board.
What do you mean bios 707? only 702 is out.. thats all i see on the ftpQuote:
Originally Posted by Nanobot
Well I tried 702 but for some reason keep getting bsod. I went back to 601 and I was able to hit 530fsb so far. Also the vdroop is a little higher than my P5W, even while idle.
Yep, heat it up a little with hair dryer and it pops off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanobot
My bad . Late night,was tired,got a little confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by TMX
I am not going near a $300CAD motherboard with a 1500Watt static generator :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by mascot
Seriously tho.. I don't feel comfortable using a hair dryer near it. I tried by resting a very hot glass of water on it to heat it up but to no avail.
That's odd BIOS 601 was stable but not as stable as 702 is for meQuote:
Originally Posted by syne_24
Nice.... i've P5B dl and i hope that comando mother could reach a better OC mora than 3.6 Ghz on my e6300 :d jejeje
Hi all !
For better cooling the NB of the commando, put a 4cm fan on it ! i've done and temps are ok.
i think this board is better than the P5B but i use a 6800 at 3.8 ghz, run at 4 ghz but impossible to be stable. rrrrrrrrr
corsair 8500 2x512 now are at 594 mhz !!!!!! incredible....not very stable also but never arrived to this freq with another board (with 3.32 in the bios (2.4 in pc probe).....)
bye
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4547
Commando Release BIOS 0801 (BETA)
1. Adds Support For 1333FSB and other tweaks so try it at your own risk.
Download:
http://resources.vr-zone.com/downloa...-ASUS-0801.rar
Quote:
Originally Posted by nFo
noone tried it yet?:D
Finally got my board up and running :D
I am currently able to hit 550FSB with my E6300 (x6 multi - 1:1) so far. :toast:
Still testing ATM. The CPU and northbridge get incredibly hot. :(
... and this damn squeeling is doing my head in!!
I'm scared :DQuote:
Originally Posted by |SiLA|
Im on 801 beta now.. doesnt do a thing for my ram problems :(
still freezes
and btw, stay away from it. i did a WINRAR memory bench mark, i only get 830kb/sec speeds now in single channel mode. cuz i can only run my ram in this config for now(hopefully), and the 702 bios would get me 1.1meg/sec
AVOID!
On the 801 Beta also
Looking goo so far::
Got it running at 517Mhz x 7 multi,that's 12MHz higher than 702 & 601 BIOS
All the chipset voltages can be set lower and it will make higher clocks on this BIOS, at stock NB & SB volts I got 505MHz out of it, no other BIOS was able to do that yet for me. It only needed extra voltage for the last MHz's above 505.
The bad:vdroop is still a 0.1v and yet no option present for 400MHZ mem ratio to be selected.
I am sorry to hear of your troubles TMX . Bump up you ram voltage a bit and make sure the last four memory sub-timing are at least near 10-10 -10 -11Quote:
Originally Posted by TMX
I have no memory issues here apart from the fact I want even faster RAM:rolleyes:
lol i will try out 801 now
Yeah, they are. I just dont get what the hell it can be!! its obviously a bug with this specific ram. But this goes to show you ASUS's pathetic quality control. Since the ram works fine in P5B-D yet not a Commando? with same chipset! jeezQuote:
Originally Posted by Nanobot
I got my Commando up and running with a Q6600 ES.
The Commando support CD isn't working at all for me. My CD drives will not read the disc whatsoever...(the same drives I used to install Windows and other software.)
Also the CD is labeled as COMMANDO MOTHERBOARD: NVidia nForce 680i SLI Support DVD!!
So, this means I do not have any of the software that came with the motherboard......some are on Asus website, but most of it isn't!!
Anyone willing to burn me a copy of the CD and send it to me...I can send a few dollars through Paypal.
Thanks
BL
WTF!! I just noticed the same thing, the Support DVD says NVIDIA SLI on it!!
God damn monkeys work at Asus i tell ya!
Same issue here and I can not read it. That may because I am running Vista however.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLHealthy4life
ive come to realize something important here.
On this Commando, CHANNEL A (dual channel memory config) will not boot with bios 801 beta. But if i use Channel B (dual channel memory config) it boots fine and its rock stable! BUT in channel B mode, i notice the ram voltage drop to 1.8v instead of the recommended SPD 1.9V!! i dont understand this issue
its clearly something to do with voltages .. they better fix this in next bios
hi
does any one know where i can get a listing of the bios codes for this MB. most of them are pretty straight forward i know but i keep gettin one sayin CPR FAIL (yip CPR not cpu).
it happens when i try to go for a 450 fsb anything under that and it posts fine cant post at 450 or anything over it.
suggestions gratefully recieved
cheers
CPR is probibally Taiwaneese English. There are lots of spelling and grammer errors on the Asus web site, on labels and in other areas. Lungists they are not but they are sure fine engineers.
Hi all, I received my Commando yesterday :).
Same here. Yesterday I was on Vista too - so I thought for one second (after reading Your post) that on XP (on which I'm at this moment) it will be fine - no luck, DVD still isn't working... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Baer
I have an E6400 (FSB wall @ ~510 on P5B-Dlx, same with Commando) and I thought that with Commando it will be possible to run FSB 500+ on 1066 strap. Again, no luck - today's best was 505MHz (2V NB @ BIOS, ambient ~5°C, NB heatsink temperature ~26°C measured with multimeter). Not 1M-stable even on FSB500... On 5-5-5-15-5-35-10-10-10-11 (pretty default settings) I reached ~490, 5-5-5-15-6-42-15-31-15-31 gave my this 505.
Maybe there is some sweet point in RAM subtimings or something else? Does anyone know how to improve this result?
Where are you folks buying your boards from???:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Baer
I wonder if they really did send out the incorrect disks with the Commando. I will call them.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMKS
nah, mine said 680i, but it had all the intel drivers on the disk... just a misprint.
I loaded the RAID drivers but nothing else from the disk. Is there anything else I need in there?
Nothing you can't download newer versions of elsewhere... Oh there's a registered copy of 3DMark 06 if that flicks your switch.
ok this might fairly be the noobest thing but i got a problem with my hd.
bought a new seagate 80gb drive for boot en bench.
now after testing it a little i noticed huge speed drops in hd tune.
heres a pic
http://users.telenet.be/hitman316/help.JPG
Im running the drivers in AHCI with the latest intel drivers.
any help would be more then welcome.
So I'am not the only one who did mention huge drops in hdtune (seagate 320GB 7200.10 Sata). I will test another harddrive ( IDE interface) to be sure it has to do with sata.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoomSayer
well i have 2 seagate 7200.10 320GB and a maxtor DM10 250GB and they run fine.
Only the drive with windows seems to be affected by this.
these drops seam to happen whenever a program needs to start or a service is being used.
also i noticed in nero info tool that only the bad performing drive has dma on.
http://users.telenet.be/hitman316/help2.JPG
yea the ICH8 seems really flaky on this board. I have unsual speed drop from those benchmark as well. However, this is my first 965 board so I'm not sure if all the 965 boards act the same way. I know the P5W wasnt like this at all.
well if anyone knows a fix it would be more then welcome
Anyone got decent 5-5-5 clocking on this board ? 3-3-3 and 4-4-4 is looking good, but 5-5-5 stability is very very poor (lower Mhz than 4-4-4).
Hi, my first post here, :)
BIOS 702
400X9
http://bbs.ocqq.com/attachments/foru...DWst1vX9zp.jpg
445X9
http://bbs.ocqq.com/attachments/foru...feGLPZVAOc.jpg
500X8
http://bbs.ocqq.com/attachments/foru...e4Df6bVHX2.jpg
BIOS 801, 400X9, 7sec faster in superpi32M
http://bbs.ocqq.com/attachments/foru...ZrDMQxFNpC.jpg
I have same DVD and it work without problems. My DVD-RW (BenQ) read it and i can installQuote:
Originally Posted by BLHealthy4life
the driver & software from it.
On my DVD were only Intel driver, 3DMark06, Kaspersky, PCProbe and other software. I think its wrong labeled?
Got my Commando today, lousy cooling on chipset, both SB and NB. Will post pictures later, now I am going to start lapping the NB and SB heatsinks, apply Ceramique and start the board.
Yes this was mine Commando Heatpipes whatever mobo i get i always repast as 1st job:D now.Quote:
lousy cooling on chipset, both SB and NB
luck:)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supershanks
wow, next to nothing touching. :(
Here are the pics. See the lousy cooling, poor contact, poor surface, poor TIM. The darn heatsinks aren't even straight, they are concave.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1170281464
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&d=1170281464
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&d=1170281464
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&d=1170281464
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5&d=1170281464
I didn't get around to the lapping job, but I've cleaned the chipset at least.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...6&d=1170281524
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...7&d=1170281524
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&d=1170281524
Those were not even coated with thermal compound. It looks from your pictures that only the edges had material. What did you do? Remove the heatpipes, clean and recoat with AS5 or Cermique?
Funnily enough I fitted new cooling to the NB PWM and SB today too, I'm not that confident in the PWM cooling and will probably work out something more substantial, but the Thermalright HR-05 on the NB and the Zalman NB47 on the SB should be plenty.
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...A22/HR05-1.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...A22/HR05-2.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q148/JAFFA22/PWM.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...FFA22/PWM2.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q148/JAFFA22/SB.jpg
The crappy TIM is on the heatsinks, too bad the heatsinks don't make proper contact with the SB and NB.
I just cleaned the TIM, and now I am trying to lap the heatsinks, then I will put them back, this time I'll make sure they make contact as they should and I'll replace the crappy TIM(tm) with some Ceramique or something like that.
in the days of NF4 i had evercool Vc-re on my NB.
Would these cool enough for a commando ?
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/6379/hr1rz2.jpg http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/8290/hr2ng3.jpg
I felt like the stock heatpipe setup was holding back my stability. So i went for the overkill nb sb setup. Before the change i wasnt stable longer than 3hours orthos but now.
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/8339/15tb9.jpg
Memory timings suck but i'll sort that out later and im probably using a little too much vcore.
Overkill indeed, my lapping job is finished and some Ceramique did the job just fine, now the heatpipes are warm but not hot or anything.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDeeds
No such thing as overkill when OC'ing, good job there Deeds.:toast:
Very nice Mrdeeds, overkill doesnt excist :toast: Might be picking up 2 of them meself, like it a lot.
so anybody push max volt on this yet? :D
VDIMM or VCore?
I have a victim in mind for testing max VDIMM, but max VCore will have to wait till I get my prommie up n running again... even then I doubt I'll need it all.
I found the VCore is real wierd, there are no voltages available between 1.63v --> 1.74v and typical for asus there is massive undervolting too:-
1.6500v - 1.584v
1.6750v - 1.608v
1.7000v - 1.624v
1.7250v - 1.616v
1.7500v - 1.632v
1.7625v - 1.736v :eek:
What did you use to measure the voltages ? Multimeter or PCProbe ?
I have noticed the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micutzu
It is pretty much impossible to get anything past DDR1200 stable no matter the latencies or voltages. Even the ram that can do DDR1200 4-4-3 on P5B or DDR1300 5-4-4 on ICFX3200 cannot do DDR1200 on Commando.
The problem is hopefully bios related, since there are still some problems with DRAM reference voltages and so.
Multimeter, I always use multimeter whenever possible... monitoring software is laughable usually hehe.
I should have mentioned also that this was with bios 0702. I tried 0801, but that bios would not go above 1.48v no matter what I set in bios.
It's bloody annoying too, my chip is good for 4.18GHz+ 32m at 1.64v on my P5WDG2 WS Pro and wanted to try for more with a little more VCore, but 1.74v is a little bit more than I had in mind :eek: :D
Herms, when you removed the stock heatsing did the retaining pins come out easily? I am having a problem removing them. Are they push and turn? I know I am mission something simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by HermS
I have removed the retaining pins of all of the heatsinks on my commando a few minutes ago to replace the stock TIM, and hey, its a pain to remove those things... They are specially hard to remove, harder than the rest of mobos I have tried (and have tried several...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Baer
I have done it with a little plier, pulling from the pin by the other side of the mobo, and doing a little bit of effort, finally they came off, try it.
Lord ;)
Yup the board will have to come out of the case to do it, you have to pinch them together on the back of the board and then push them through. Needle nose pliers are probably best for the job.
What are the voltages everyone is running on their NorthBridge? I still have the stock heat-pipe/TIM on my board but I would like to know what I can push when I upgrade the cooling :).
I only needed 1.35 for stability at 467fsb and i dont think i would need much more than that to push to 500. This board doesnt seem to need that much vmch. Im thinking about running 8x525 to see if thats as stable as 9x467 at the same voltages.
Be aware though that the vmch does overvolt.
Just got me a Commando a couple days ago. Sending it back for refund. Can't stand the high pitch squeal it makes under load. No "buzzing", but squeal.
Too bad. You'd think a top mobo maker like ASUS would have better quality control or use better components.
Thanks, I feel better now :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by HermS
The issue is not the componnents, actually from what I see they have use all high end componnents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gitsum
We are going to see more and more issues like this due to RoHS. Especially the lead free solder provisions of RoHS reduce reliability for far to may reasons to cover here. The key three reasons however are much higher eutectic point (25 to 30 degrees C higher in the wave soldering unit), Far lower ductility and wetting due to the much higher tin content and for long term reliability, dendritic grouth which will cause shorts in hi density circuits eventually. Also , all lead free solders are not the same with greatly differing properties as well as cost.
trying to replace the stoc hs's thermal paste with AS5 but having a tough time tho'....the pins n the rest are easily removed but the hs on the southbridge feels like its glued on....anybody?
thx in advance
Oh come on dude, it's been asked and answered like a dozen times on a dozen topics(even here, if I recall correctly), can't you do a search ? It's not glued.
sorry, noob here but i did say feels like....just that its my first time removing the onboard hs's and its my 2nd board after getting the first replaced due to the buzzing sound..so trying to avoid the hassle of a 3rd.
today i flashed the new 0803 bios, it is a little bit better for oc as 0801.
now my e6400 run with 1.30v @ 3.6Ghz :toast:
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8151/prime2al0.jpg
Chri$ch Where can we download the 0803 BIOS ? I can't seem to find it anywhere,it's not on Asus's site or FTP's .
Could somwone who knows both boards give me an opinion. Which is better?
-P5N32-E SLI
-Commando
Unless u're not running async mem dividers, 965 @ high fsb doesn't need much vmch.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDeeds
That's the case with my P5B-Deluxe also.
you must flash it in Dos with AFUDOS or Asus EZ Flash (not with Asus-Update)!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanobot
Commando 0803 download
flashing on your own risk!
Thanks man.
Hey guys, I bought some silicone in a tube (I presume this is what is referred to liquid silicone) and I am about to apply it to that coil thing that is making the buzzing/squealing sound.
I have a question, though, how should I wait before using the machine again? On the tube it says that it stops being sticky after 1 hour and it "hardens" all the way through in 2-5 days. So, do I have to wait 1 hour, 2-5 days or 10 minutes? :)
Same shiznit happened with me as well but...I got my friend the same board for helping me around my shop and his Drivers CD DOES WORK.If anyone needs a copy let me know.I would prefer to make an image and then just send it to someones FTP and get it distibuted out to all who need it that way.Anyone with an FTP willing to help me share this drivers disk?Let me know :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BLHealthy4life
I would wait a few hours anyway but not necessary to wait days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bludd
Does anyone know if 4:5 works at high fsb (500+) on this board? thinking about getting one for some 3060 xeon on DIce action.
Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
I never tried quite that high, but 450 4:5 was easy to achieve straight boot to windows and didn't need much work if that helps at all. The voltages could more than likely be set much lower than in this screeny too.
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...x8-4-5-32m.png
Commando 0803 download
thanks for the download Chri$ch is there a change log with it ??, is it a beta
cheers mate
need help,
Core 2 Duo x6800
Asus Commando
Corsair Dominator 8500
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6020/ccpuzbs6.png
Vcore = auto
Fsb = 1.5
NB = 1.5
Mem = 2.2
SB vcore = 1.6
SB chipset = 1.12
i can't reach 3.3Ghz above, my pc won't boot, any suggestions?
my goal is 4.0Ghz
thank you very much !!
This is not a soldering issue, the Vmch and Vdimm coils are not tightened/glued correctly, that's all. I agree the RoHS solder is inferior from many aspects, but this has nothing to do with soldering but with the low quality of those two coils.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baer
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anhydrous
You have a PM about getting a CD made and shipped to me...
Thanks
BL
guys, how much % of the CPU is used for processing the sound on commando?
it would be useful to buy an x-fi?
Quote:
Originally Posted by -Sweeper_
yup curios to find out too, n why doesnt this board support dolby digital, anyway neweggs having an offer on the x-meridian.
Is easyflash only for old OS? like Win98 Says does not support NTFS.
You do not need to apologize :fact: some of these guys are just :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::b anana:s:fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by cablesguy
I think I can mange to send that to you this week ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BLHealthy4life
Let me get my taxes done tomorrow and then I can ship it to you man :)
I didn't read whole thread but is there any vdroop mod for that mobo?
regards
http://koti.mbnet.fi/dani69/ASUS_Com...vDROOP_mod.JPGQuote:
Originally Posted by LittleDevil
http://koti.mbnet.fi/dani69/ASUS_Com...OP_mod_dot.JPG
wow 4:5 at 450fsb, i might need a commando.
I don't know how much further it would go, that run was just part of a battery of tests I was running at 3.6GHz and like I say it didn't need any special treatment to get there. I've been meaning to get round to checking just how far it can go, but something always comes up and I get sidetracked :rolleyes: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Revv23