The Pi results are weird. I'll be very curios to find out why 3T is faster than 2T & 1T. Thanks for the results Tony. Many crunchers have been waiting for something like this.
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The Pi results are weird. I'll be very curios to find out why 3T is faster than 2T & 1T. Thanks for the results Tony. Many crunchers have been waiting for something like this.
Maybe by mistake in bios, 1T and 3T are named the opposite?....:confused:
OOZTUNCER:
so if there is only a small sample available is there a risk these first boards could be revision 1 and new revision hardware wise show up next month..if so blah
bios updates no big deal IMHO
Rgone thought this but I do not think so, the 3D results back up my thinking also.Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
Something else, memtest86+ 1T 3600MB's, 3T 3800MB/s
Wierd... I will be testing more
Thats what Im thinking, but nobody is real sure. It could just be for BIOS tweaks.Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
Guys, I just heard that the board won't be sale on 15th like what you may have heard. Looks like they have some sort of issue with the BIOS to work out.
the question I have is if you are a serious gamer this should be the board for you right?
I need to get rid of this cfx3200 cause of the stupid ULI problems but prefer the ATI Cards
So Jan 10th sounds more like it?Quote:
Originally Posted by pcmoddingmy
where did you here thisQuote:
Originally Posted by pcmoddingmy
Let's just say I have a few DFI guys in my MSN list :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
It won't be delayed till Jan either. There will be a "few" boards available for sale just before Xmas though...
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Originally Posted by hipro5
Except the 3DMarks and a couple of games do better with 1T than 3T, it is just plain weird right now (in a good way).
thanks crap...looks like I either wait and do not build a new system with wife out of town or get a different moboQuote:
Originally Posted by pcmoddingmy
this truly sucks
I guess this confirms what Tony has been saying throughout this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by pcmoddingmy
Can we please stop posting comments about the boards availabilty or lack there of. It's been established that there will be a limited number of boards for sale before X-mas, then more next year. Only post concerning availablity, should be a link to where one can be added to cart for purchase. Anything else is off topic and has been covered already.
DFI is smart and professionals.....They WILL NOT release a board unless they have eliminated it's "weaknesses".....They where at the TOP as of AMDs and they won't jeopardize their fame with a "faulty" board - EVEN with it's bios....
They will release it as soon as it's TOTALLY ready coz if they hurry up and you buy it and start saying things, it's not good for them....
They will make it "perfect" (in a way - there's no perfection - ) and they will release it......Just be patient and I think that you will be reward.....;)
That's my words though....:)
Orthosing E6700 39FSB overclock...Ocz 6400R2 800DDR@800...30 mins so far...
RGone...
Funny how Asus seems to get away with it and we still buy their crap!Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
(Says me who paid mad cash for the striker and its been a nightmare above 400FSB)
Ouch, Sucks for us :(Quote:
Originally Posted by pcmoddingmy
Loooks like AW9D is getting modded :[
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Originally Posted by hipro5
I just wish that was true for the CFX3200 with its ULI problems!
One of the biggest mistakes of DFI was the nF4 SLI-DR 'expert'
The "CPU-Burner" feature of their first BIOSes actually.
But, lets stay focused and on-topic :)
That was a none issue...do you actually know how many CPU's died per the amount of boards sold?Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
I'm not aware of that ratio, but I had 3 Opteron's dieing whilst testing the first boards that arrived back then... and some more CPUs of our customersQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
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Originally Posted by Tony
nah, bet he read a flaming post.
Ive been searching google far and wide, still only ZZF that has a link up for anything remotely close to a buy. Its not looking too good but Im still gonna stay up and watch ZZF just in case :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by RGone
39 FSB is nothing to write home about ;)
:woot: 39 x 10 = 390 MHz. Is that still faster than my P2 @ 400MHzQuote:
Originally Posted by buckshot
so the real question, 3t will it beat 975 super pi?
also does 3t aloow higher mem clocks?
This is interesting indeed...Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
Just a typo, I am sure, he probably meant 390, no 39 ... come on, give the guy a break, I mean if you're trying to test this board and give us info from time to time, I bet you might make a typo once in awhile ... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by buckshot
On my board and memory settings, 3T is slightly faster than 1T at 1M/4M, 3T is about 30 seconds slower than 1T at 32M. Tony is the memory guru on this board but so far I see 3T being a killer in just about everything. The problem with this board is that once you make a change, it actually does something. :D That is not really a problem as I love it but I promise you it will take a good four or five days of tweaking to figure out the optimum settings and it all changes as soon as you switch out memory or CPUs. It might not show in all of the benchmarks, but the feeling behind the keyboard is that once you hit on that perfect setting, the board is silly fast. ;) Back to RAID testing.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
I'd say this board is more for the hardware enthusiast than the serious gamer.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2000army
It's good if you want to spend hours tweaking everything to get a nice OC, but if you're a serious gamer who wants to play games, just get a D975XBX2 - very stable board and it's not like you'll ever be able to tell a FPS difference in your games.
4 CPU's died and 20k boards sold...kinda makes you feel that the cpu burn issue was a none issue;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
1 person posting on a forum can look like 30 people with the same issue, its one of the bad side effects of an open forum.
was no typo, RGone is JSP testing (Joe sixpack) IE the user who just plugs in and plays. We have to make sure the board works from cmos clears etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKHandyman
No time to test this right now, i have to pull this board out to test 680I Asus tomorrow :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
what the.... OMG, get rid of that Asus board!!!
more tests more tests!!! :)
hmm so 3t seems great but overall how much further were you able to oc the memory? jw than 1t or 2t.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
well... how smart of dfi to put a passive cool on it!:slapass:
especially with those stupid Intel clips for heatsink... I do not see the way to replace it with IceberQ for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by rpg711
Keep in mind the clips don't require quite as much space on the board as a large hole does. The engineers might have decided it's best to go this route so traces on the board don't get unnecessarily complicated. At least they have 4 on there so a waterblock can sit securely.Quote:
Originally Posted by mnemonik23
And I'm sure the HR-05 (among other sinks) will fit well enough, if the stock one doesn't suffice for you. ;)
it doesn't run hot at all compared to 680i... and probably a little less thatn 975x. Guess ati is making up for their heat in the gpu department heh. The Crossfire express 3200 used I believe around 15watts less at load. I'm not sure. than an nforce 4 ultra. The 680i is I think 20w+975X(relatively equivalent to the Nforce 4 Ultra).Quote:
Originally Posted by rpg711
This baby is up on the DFI website
http://tinyurl.com/ylcm4s
:)
EDIT: Its 12:10am EST 12/15/2006 do you know where your Mobo is? :D
if it goes on sale it will be at 3am est probably
Newegg post 8am to 12pm PST.
It has been on DFI site.
Looks like im staying up to see I know of 3 sites with listings for it right now US/EU/AU plastics at my side and autofill :toast: heres hopin :stick:
care to share?
After all the hype watch, it won't break 350 FSB with retail. :p:
zipzoomfly (of course)
Nintek australian, and I believe OCUK will have it
I'm saying up also, if I find any new listings, I'll let you guys know :)
i will aswell....im checking newegg
so what do you guys think.....E6600 or Xeon 3060?
Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_fx
Good deal, I have been doing the same. I mean if I can stay up 36hrs for a damn PS3 I can stay up a couple hours for this board if it is coming the 15th like speculation leads us to believe :p:
i just sold the last of my four PS3's
I like my 6600, its an OEM with some pretty good benches with it so far (nothing fantastic but hey its gettin there). I have 3 Xeon 3060's coming from Newegg 2morrow, I will play around with them next week and post results if your interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2000army
i kinda wanted to buy one tonight with the mobo
Go for the Xeon, what do you have to lose? take a chance
Looks like they are OOS on the Xeon....how about ram....what do you think will be the top 3 for this board?
I surely would not stay up tonight looking for the 15th to come around...unless every source I have is absolutely wrong...you will not see an rd600 go up for sale on the 15th...just so you don't stay up for nothing...
RGone...
I'm working so I don't care but thanks for the heads upQuote:
Originally Posted by RGone
Lol did you check newegg? because It was sold out after I bought my 3 on tuesday :toast: :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by 2000army
If nothing's listed by 4am, I'll call it a day. But I'll be up early also, just in case ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by RGone
*** @ Everybody: If they start being listed after 4am, please order a 2nd one, I'll gladly buy it from you :) :toast:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Praxis1452
975X is 30W cooler in idle than i680 and 50W when running 3dmark06.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/chi...0i-sli_12.html
The Nforce chipset alone eats more power than a laptop! Amd really need Ati/Amd chipset to their 4x4. Just think about the current 100W in chipset power consumption. :eek:
Its 4am EST no board :( guess I will go play BF2142 for a bit and check it at like 6am then 8am. If not looks like it will be out for my bday Jan 10th :toast:
Excellent. Great to hear from you Tony. Hope this board lives up to expectations. ;)
You tested the clockgen of Franck for RD600 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
no need AMD system manager goes well over 500fsb alreadyQuote:
Originally Posted by boblemagnifique
any memory recommendations for this board
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Originally Posted by Tony
I have just understood :D
I thought the majority were blocked has 511 in the bios and there wasn't software under Windows to up the fsb
Ps :Good job for OCZ APCA 2006 ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2000army
Don't you think it is a little early to ask that question? :D
Just get the cheapest Micron D9 sticks you can find or you could ask Tony later what Ocz sticks he think works best on it. That would be the safest bet. Too bad he must try out that Nforce board so you will have to wait...
no reviews, no boards... what's going on?
I wanted to ask the same question :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by mnemonik23
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Originally Posted by mnemonik23
rumors don't always pan out.
Agree, but I hoped at least for the review part today. Well, still have plenty of time till the end of the day :)Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
from Bingo:
"The preview will be up very late tomorrow (today now) or early Saturday morning. The full review is next week after I finally complete the P965 saga. I will try to answer all of the major points in the preview article. I am going for less words, more numbers. DFI is suppose to confirm shipment numbers tomorrow. I know the boards bound for the US should arrive very shortly. "
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Originally Posted by xgman
Is this board gonna be future proofed with crossfire in only PCI-e 8x + 8x ? Handling Vista and future games?
I am starting to debate whether I want this board or not
Why is everyone so held up on only having only 8x PCIe lanes per x16 slot? Hasn't it already been shown not to be a limitation at all? Even with Crossfire setups? And if it is, isn't that only true with older cards that don't have the dual dongle hook up now?
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Originally Posted by mesyn191
yeah it's no big deal just the nubs always wrap themselves around features and not actuall performance.
Sry about offtopic:
Does anyone know a site about biossettings or help about oc?
At first i want to see the bios before i will buy this mobo.
tony posted many bios pics...you need to look throught the thread dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by GNU
I have a guide going live soon,basic OC is there although I need to talk about straps yet etc.
Both Bingo13 and myself have a nasty stomach bug so things have slowed down a little, apparantly this bug is all over the UK and US.
More soon
I hope you guys will get well soon!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Any info on the first batch release?
Well stop smooching each other and start benching! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
j/k, thanks for all your hard work. This board looks pretty sweet. I might have to go back to DFI, my first 775 board.
i want one
What?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peeps42
a) uclajd's cat
b) not uclajd's cat
c) stomach bug
d) RD600?
:D
Really is that so. Nubs ! I wonder how the XF R600 will perform using 2-8x Pci-e slots Vs 2-16x pci-e slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
I think this is very reasonable question . Since R600 isn't out but it is the next gen . I feel strongly this is a valid Question. With all the rumored bandwidth of the R600.
you will have to wait.Neither Gary or I have r600 yetQuote:
Originally Posted by Turtle 1
:( WTF happened ? Now we have DEC 15th and it isn't nowhere in the retail channels...........:mad:
DEC 15 was fixed for release AFAIK................ :stick:
:slapass:
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Originally Posted by camouflage
Ahhhh, propoganda......:rolleyes:
Might be im missing something about the async mem clocking but would there be a difference in running for example 4.0ghz multi 9 1:1 mem 444mhz compared to 4.0ghz multi 8 fsb 500mhz mem at 444mhz, same mem timings :confused:
Zipzoomfly has it.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=246517
In back order.
^They've had that for a long time :)
DFI never gets the ATI chipsets right. There was this same delay for the AMD R580 DFI board, and not only did it have horrible bugs that made it un-usable(ULI anyone?) it was expensive as crap and took forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by camouflage
I am not impressed so far at all.
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Originally Posted by Revv23
I know......how newbish of me to ASK if this board is gonna be future proofed......sorry that I don't sit around my house all day benchmarking my system for the biggest E-Penis on Xtremesystems.org.
Sorry that I wanted to know if this is the practical board for everyday use seeing how when I am not working I like to game and prefer a nice, fast, system. I mean...who wants features that they already have on their motherboard? especially when all the other motherboards coming out seem to have it......
Is this board a great OC'er? Sure...I bet it is.
Is this board future proofed for vista and possible new games and applications? I DON'T KNOW I WAS ASKING
Sincerely,
Your friend "the newb"
:( So I think I'm thru with this board now. Waited more than 10 weeks to hear this......... :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
Maybe I better should spend my time with reading PLAYBOY and wait for DFI's bankrupt if going on with this kind of release policy.........:nono:
:toast:
:DOk ok...calm down..rule 1 dont get heated up over anything that people say on a forum..if you however do its time u get a life :0 . Your question was legit...but your formulation was rather "whiny"Quote:
Originally Posted by 2000army
Kiss and make up :p:
Gee 2000 , 300 to 400 dollars for these boards and you expect features:nono: Isn't it enough just being a beta tester for them:fact:
Pretty pictars :D.
sorry if i have offended you but the question has been answered several times in this thread. Maybe next time you should read the thread and you would find out your question had already been answered. That way you wouldn't be upset right now and you wouldn't have to bold redface your text to show how angry you are. Also sorry if the term noob offends you, it's merely a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2000army
Sincerly,
Your friend Mark.
What does the available bandwidth of the on board RAM of the R600 have to do with available PCIe bandwidth? Even in Crossfire?Quote:
Originally Posted by Turtle 1
Then you definitly won't care whether the board has x16 or x8 lanes per PEG slot, its really a very minor issue, what drivers you're using will probably make a bigger impact on performance. Also how many lanes each PEG slot has is irrelevant to how future proof a motherboard is, PCIe devices are designed such that you can slap em' in slots that have less lanes than the card supports so long as the physical slot is large enough for the card (or bigger).Quote:
Originally Posted by 2000army
Oh come on, a few min. of googling would've shown you how little impact x8 or x16 lanes for each PEG has on performance, you're getting all worked up over nothing. IMO having more than x8 lanes per PEG is just a marketing gimmick, sort of like having 3Gb/s SATA, or NCQ, gangable Gb NIC's, etc. Hell, Crossfire and SLi themselves are pretty much gimmicks too, damn near no one anywhere uses them even here at XS there aren't all that many people bother with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2000army
Just a FYI, pretty much anything made after 2001 will probably have Vista support, just not immediately at launch. Also if you're gonna get this worked up any time someone is just the littlest bit short with you than you might as well just give up on the internet or for that matter talking to people in general because you're waaaay to touchy.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2000army
actually that board is supposed to be amazing now. A new bios was released a month back I believe. Sure it took a while but nevertheless it works fine now.Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
btw newegg had it for $80 on black friday if it's the one I'm thinking of.
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Originally Posted by Turtle 1
Really is that so. Nubs ! I wonder how the XF R600 will perform using 2-8x Pci-e slots Vs 2-16x pci-e slots.
I think this is very reasonable question . Since R600 isn't out but it is the next gen . I feel strongly this is a valid Question. With all the rumored bandwidth of the R600.
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Quote mesyn191
What does the available bandwidth of the on board RAM of the R600 have to do with available PCIe bandwidth? Even in Crossfire?
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Doesn't all that board ram bandwidth and such get transported over the Pci-e . as a rendered graphics. I have seen no R 600 reviews but if its such a rendering monster. It may very well use up the Pci-e 8x lane in xf. You don't know and niether do I. But it is a fair question. Is it not?
We can't use G80 gtx in sli on anything but NV 2x16x M/B's .
So how do we know amd hasn't planned the same thing for their next chipset? Effectively locking Intel out of the Dual GPU M/B market.
Ever occur to you thats this is what the DoJ investagstion might be looking at. Seeing how NV and AMD are so chummy. I am sure they are looking at price fixing among other things.