Anyone who has removed the heatpipe, did you put as5 on the voltage regualtors too? or did you put the thermal pad back on it?
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Anyone who has removed the heatpipe, did you put as5 on the voltage regualtors too? or did you put the thermal pad back on it?
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3948Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
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Originally Posted by malficar
malficar is this the ram your using?
http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/...ail.asp?id=350
That would be correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by palese
Looks like my board tops out @ 445FSB 1mb Pi with multi set to 8:( Not better than my P5W DH.
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9...dmaxhe8.th.jpg
Vapor EDIT: image replaced....
****oops forgot to resize in my haste Damn 1920X 1200 Res Monitor:) ****
That's a good result Nemesis :)
(ps, 6.6Mb bitmap? :eek: get it in jpg/png :fact: )
make it in JPG/GIF ... 6.6MB takes age loading it from 56k speed modem :slapass:
445 nice result ... btw....:banana: :toast: :clap: :woot:
AGhhh damn I just sent this board back to the shop after hearing some bad experiences with it running 1:1 at higher FSB.
Should I go and get it back? :D
AS5 everywhere....Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
OT: LOVE the wallpaper!!! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
and nice to see the board doing almost 450+ FSB as well.
anyone else notice that the CPU temps are reported a bit higher on this board than others? or is it just me? Im sitting at 36-38C idle and 55C load with high end water at 1.45v 3.6Ghz...
My result:
[IMG]http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5915/13044pixg8.jpg[/IMG]
CPU-Z:http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=125778
I love this board!:)
E6600 (L625)
abit AW9D-MAX (Asus P5B Deluxe)
Danger Den&Swiftech Storm watercooling
Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II NB cooler
Mushkin Redline XP2 8000 2x1Gb RAM
OCZ 520 12U PSU
mch & pcie 1.5v voltage
What is this voltage do? any help on O/C?
In the Bios, it said "this voltage feed the PCIe". I thought this feed the NB. Can someone please shed some light here.
Thanks
That was taken out to show mch only with bios 1.2 you should flash to it because it also allows for downward multiplier adjustments.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonhunter
@Lalaboy
Are you using that Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II NB cooler on your abit board? If so what did you cool the southbridge & mosfet with?
I am on Bios 1.2 and it's still there :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
Are you on the offical 1.2 from abits ftp? For me the voltages after changing to "user define" are cpu memory, & mch. Doesn't say pci-e anyware anymore. Try using the the link above, thats a direct link to abits ftp. I flashed in windows, selected clear cmos data etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonhunter
quick question guys.
i'm wondering if you could run a presler on these boards. would the circuitry be able to handle the increased load of an overclocked presler?
Looks like i have a "back up" board if rd600 is a total flopQuote:
Originally Posted by Heidfirst
:)
i looked at their site but couldn't find anything regarding support beyond the core architechture.
thanks
I picked to pieces the heatpipe cooling!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/4...pem2fu6.th.jpg
anyone running corsair ddr2 6400 with this board?:stick:
my aw9d-max max fsb 445,stable at 440 (mch 1.8v)
http://img.oc.com.tw/281d03/20061022552818233055303.gif
Yes, a lot of it around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bones
Great......Think ill order this board tonight:DQuote:
Originally Posted by palese
Hi folks
Does the layout of this board mean the PCI slot is useless if i have two gfx cards. Im specifically thinking of using this card.
http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/...ationId=638442
Yes it is, but its worth it as its a great board.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmce
CPU under Ybris OneQuote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8...9060850sg8.jpg
I removed heatpipe between Mosfet and Northbridge and replaced it with a Ybris Keops K5 rev.2 - I left full heatpipe between Mosfet and Southbridge
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7263/3009060851zg5.jpg
Ram under Abit Otes RamFlow modded with 8x8 fan of Silent Boost by Thermaltake
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1391/3009060852wx9.jpg
Here heatpipe mosfet/southbridge under better view
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8...9060853xn1.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7...9060854cq9.jpg
A dedicated AircubeX2 120x120 for northbridge and 7900gtx
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4...9061416ut2.jpg
A dedicated AircubeX2 80x80 for cpu
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9...9061417az7.jpg
:D
I believe that u can use this card cause it utilizes a single card cooling solution. The heatpipes are outside the area a pci would occupate. U just need to install your pci card prior to installing the second vga. My :2cents:Quote:
Originally Posted by dmce
I did think that but wanted a bit of advice, thanks. It does mean a hot hot hot X-Fi card though.
On a side note and sorry for being OT but these physics cards that seem to be mentioned here and there, what cnnection would they use? PCI-e x1?
The Ageia Physix card is PCI card. Pci-e cards are not out yet. I think the Pci-e card will be based on 4x and wont work on 1x. This means no go on the AW9D.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmce
In theory it should work in 1 of the x16 PCI-E slots if you aren't running Crossfire too.Quote:
Originally Posted by amx
Yea that will, but if he has 2 gpus already then that would be a problem. PCI works much better then 1x anyways. The PCI has more bandwidth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heidfirst
i haven't looked through this whole thread but are there any results showing this board being capable of 500+ fsb?
the highest i saw was 460 but with mods (hipro5).
No, most of us can barely reach over 440 1mb Pi stable with lower multiplier. I'm not sure any 975X board can do 500+ FSB. Seems 470 is the max modded & unmodded (P5WDG2 WS Pro).Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
I have GB DS3....Can I change to the abit board and not need to reistall windows?
No. P965's OS is not interchangeable with 975X from my previous experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by snips
while 945P can swap with 975X.
Given that i wont class myself as an Xtreme overclocker i cant see any reason to go with this board over the P5W DH Deluxe. Anyone care to comment? Havent badled in overclocking since my old Celeron 300A. Im sure once ive got the gear i will get back into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by amx
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmce
currently the board needs a new bios and some vmods to make it a real winner. If you are buying right now the P5W is probably your best option as its a much more mature platform.
Price, uGuru, it looks way cooler, just a few of the top of my head.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmce
I had a P5W DH Dx.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmce
I got as far as 340 x 9, but the shutdown bug drove me nutz. After hitting 'F10' exiting BIOS with a save the rig shut... OFF and then restarted. It also did this on EVERY fricking soft restart. The last straw for me is when the f^cking thing did the dance when Windows was booting. :slapass: Nice huh?
I could not deal with that, and discovered Asus designed this into the board to protect the BIOS settings when not running stock or 266. This info is documented on posts on THIS forum, by the female expert overclocker... Eva. (Eva is very good at overclocking) She discovered this bug months ago and contacted Asus about it, and it is to stay. The PB5 Asus does it as well. :eek:
Yeah it was fast, but how long were my components going to last? :mad:
As you may already have determined I Rma'd the ASUS and my ABIT arrives tomorrow. :toast:
It is a good looking board, all black except dimm 1/3, but I wish they put the PCI slot in the location of where they put the PCIe2 and they should of put the audiomax slot in between the PCIexpress and LAN port, and tried to squeeze another PCI slot where the current audiomax slot location is... and move the floppy port next to the IDE port.
Aye its put me totally off buying an Asus Intel Mobo :nono: how the hell do you people put up with this? I guess you have money to burn & not worried about your components, I guess its like pulling the switch out the socket while your PC is on!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
well, the tRD / read delay - shut down after saving or as you call it, the shutdown bug is fixed for the P5WDG2-WS PRO see http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&postcount=42 so Asus can fix this, if they add Row refresh cycle and Read Delay in the bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
kinda weird because Asus is a brend that fullfils customers needs, so why not fix this stupid problem that kills hardware :confused:
Interesting question. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
Any further news regarding an X6800 and upward multiplyers being enabled on this board.........or are Abit going to let this board become another steamer. :fact:
What do you have to say about this Eva :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
He is very knowledgeable on overclocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Anyone suffering from instability with memory settings?
I can't seem to get my system stable, other than leaving my RAM timings set to By SPD. :eek:
I used exactly the same set of volts and timings I set on the P5W DH previously, and later on even upped each voltage by a notch but I'm still not getting a stable system. :stick:
eva2000 is definately a dude.
just pretend EVA stands for Extra Vehicular Activity...as in space walk.
OopsQuote:
Originally Posted by flytek
Sorry about that, :eek:
sparx
Yup!! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
I had 2x P5B dlx..both borked at about 1.55v cpu,and a P5W-DH that just hung at the XP pro loading bar no matter what BIOS or what difference i made in changing any BIOS settings.
Really peed me off,so i went with the AW9-MAX just to tide me over.....
Beast
Interesting to read I was not the only one with a hitch during Windows load.
hah i'm a guy :)Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Eva = Evangelion = Neon Genesis Evangelion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_Genesis_Evangelion :D
LoL its even more frustrating with phase when you get stuck with 6 minute countdowns after every bios reset.... Ive had a couple times where It tricked my controller into shutting down and then themobo restarted with the phase still in countdown mode...ergo no cooling...Quote:
Originally Posted by thebeast
Very Ugly! :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by sdumper
two questions, is everyone disabling EIST and C1E on this board and is the mobo supposed to reset bios settings everytime you unplug the computer?
check your CMOS jumper setting, some of them have come in the box with it on the clear position. No, i never have used EIST or C1E..
Ok thanks ill check that
hmm is the multi changer in bios supposed to work or is multi locked down in normal conroes too O_o with my e6700 i can get 6-9x work only if i use 266fsb, for example with 6x and 300fsb it post @ 582x6 O_O...something is wrong here.
got my board today, will update with test reports after my flu has gone :mad: :mad: :mad:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...10-06_2223.jpg
Red + Black is so sexy :D
Intersting, I thought the retail boards were suppose to be blue & black & the red & black were preproduction.Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
ya, I am buying a non-retail version which covers by warranty too.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
I like the colours more.
considering it is a "Limited Edition" :D
interesting...
I think BOTH my harddrives are dead, killed by the Asus' so called dual restart feature. I will buy an external harddrive to see. I dont have a spare right now. Damn was so excited to finally get this working too.
Sorry to hear this, are you referring to the restart or (shutdown) after setting BIOS or simply a soft restart? I read (somewhere) that was fixed on the Asus Pro board, don't know about the p5w dh.
sparx
hi guys,
here is a little survey.
what FSB could you achieve and by how much vMCH??
thanks!
im at 400 FSB 1.6v...
Any news on a bios that will give all multypliers with a X6800 yet. Get your act together Abit!
another overhyped product???? or is this board actually good? whats the words fellas?
444 2.0vQuote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
2 volts ouch...
wow it's too much for 24/7 I think....Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Who said anything about 24/7, besides it's in the BIOS and I like to bench. That means every voltage is pretty much maxed from day 1.
I find this board very nice and interesting. It's giving me much better overclock and results than ASUS P5WDH and P5B with my X6800..
Got the board yesterday and so far thats what I got effortless:
CPU cooling: Tuniq Tower 120 AC assisted
2 cores active
No vmods
(could run SPI 1M 120 Mhz higher on cpu comparing to the best I got with ASUS)
http://www.ojdr2001.com/Imagens/abitspi4082.jpg
FSB so far got 460, 1,85 VMCH and stock heatsink
http://www.ojdr2001.com/Imagens/abit460fsb.JPG
The only negative point so far for X6800 owners is the lack of upper multis but I heard from reliable sources that a new beta bios is coming soon allowing this feature
Now it's time to test Crossfire before I move the cpu to my cascade and LN2 later on
Generally I find this board superior to ASUS P5WDH-DL for overclock and benchmark
the upper multiplier ... i heard they are working on it... just give them some times... will let you know when it is available for public ... cheers :toast:
Thank you tictac. :)
Hi every gurus here,
I've found that with this board, I need 1.78 vmch to keep my system stable, double primed, at 400fsb x 9, at Vcore of 1.53v. Also 2.45vdimm 1:1 at 3 3 3 4.
Please advise if it is safe to keep this as a 24/7 settings for use. My temps ok but realised that the PWM3 in uguru is higher than the rest at 46 degrees. What's PWM3?
Thank you in advance, please help..............
Whats a safe vmch with his board anyhow with decent case cooling?
Someone stated in this thread that 2.0v set in the BIOS was actually 1.89v real on this board. My board doesn't get warm @ up to the highest setting so I am not concerned. If you want to be safe don't run your board @ your max OC 24/7. You hardly need 3.6-4.0GHz for web browsing and dinking around. Folks that are worried should go with 3.2GHz. All the Core 2 Duo chips I have owned so far have been able to do that with voltages @ stock levels. This chip will actually do 3.6Ghz on 1.4v, which is nice. It needs 1.52v for 3.8GHz and a full 1.65v for 3.9-4.0GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by NO1B4ME
I have all the power management features on so my rig idles @ a 6x multi with reduced voltage. BTW you can leave all of that on in the BIOS and enable or disable it in windows by changing power management to "minimal" for on and to "always on" for off.
i'm also trying hard (since i'm a very big noob) to get this thing stable...Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceflight
if i use multi 6, 7, or 8 it's useless... as it goes from 6x500 in the bios to 6x638. 7x400 to 7x514 and 8x400 to 8x450 and the memory divisor also goes up... :S:S:S only the 9 multi is bug free for me.... :slapass: i first thougth it might be the 5400GA fault, but now with the Pc8000 cas5 cellshock it's the same thing... so far i'm at 9x385 with 1.5Vcore, 2.2Vdimm 1.7Vmch and mems at 4-4-4-8. last time with less vmch orthos failed after 51min....
i have the board in inverted atx, which is not good and only have a fan pointing and the mems and Nb.
also... do your boards produce any kind of noise when in full load? is seems like high-voltage lines, but without the sparks ... :p:
sorry for the long post...
I've 9 fans in my case, so I probably couldn't hear anything. But seems so far to me that this board needs more vmch to get it stable. Either that or the actual voltage is really much lower...:stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Patuga
i see, thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Again, this board overvolts cpu setting in bios, & undervolts mch. Each is different I believe but the highest actual voltage on mch I've seen after setting 2.0v is 1.93v. From what I understand of the chipset, 1.85v mch is only safe for everyday use with aftermarket or enchanced cooling. I don't like that I need 1.75v mch set in bios to get 400FSB stable, but remember thats not actual. I've not measured what I get actual @ 1.75v but I assume its below 1.7v and around 1.62-1.65v for most of us. I know alot of people like this board, and it may be a winner with future bios updates. For me the board runs hotter on both the cpu & chipset, & the audio will not suit my needs. I just bought a new revision p5w DH for a mere $234 shipped:) I paid $238 shipped for the abit & I personally think the P5W is a better buy.
i think i got it...
got up to 1.8vmch and it did 1H of orthos @ 390
now testing @ 400 with 4-4-4-12, 2.2vdimm (2.25 Ov)
haven't looked at the Mch voltage to see how accurate it is... will do that in half an hour... tks for the input... i'm getting somewhere here... :toast: :toast: :woot: :woot:
EDIT: Test Failed After 40 minutes...
will try with 2.4Vdimm now....
Ok Nem :)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
I read that ASUS fixed the shutdown / rebooting bug on the "PRO" version, is it fixed on the P5W DH?
sparx
No, it seems Asus is perfecting every board except the P5W DH. The P5B doesn't do it either now that you have full control over tref etc in bios. I'm still hopeful that its coming. At least my sources say its on the way. I've ordererd a few different chipset & mosfet coolers. I'm gonna remove the heatpipe from the abit and see what happens. Adding as5 and some fans got me up to 440 FSB 1mb pi stable uing the 9 multiplier. I want 450 using 8 and 445 using 9. My current 1.85v mch P5W will do this now with no mods. Hoping the one I orderd today will to, as well as this abit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
That sucks :confused:
I was going to get a pb5 until I let myself get talked into the Pw5 which I rma'd and replaced with the abit aw9d max.
I am at 383 x 9 and moving up, just want 3.5 stable and I will be happy.
I am using 3d03 and 3d05 back to back to test stability. I quit using Prime95 on my last AMD build seemed to cause issues for several.
I need to find the "GO" program and figure out how to run it on both cores simultaneously.
The GO program you're refering to is called Stress Prime 2004. Instead of running two different instances for you dual core us the orthos version. It will stress both cores by default. Also run large FTTS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
Thanks
I want to run this on my AW9D MAX, I found some today and I also see it's back in stock everywhere in Dec. I have not seen any other timing's like it.
I'm trying to understand low latency vs high bandwidth for OCing as well as games. Anyone have this and is 498.00 just way to much cash and is it worth the expense?
Corsair XMS2 Xtreme Performance TwinX Matched - Memory - 2 GB ( 2 x 1 GB ) - DIMM 240-pin - DDR II - 800 MHz / PC2-6400 - CL3 - 2.2 V
Thanks I hope someone can shed some light on this for me.
I had Asus P5W DH (1.65V ver.) mobo, now I have abit AWD9-MAX. With the same processor I got better results.
E6600 B2 (week 25)
Abit AWD9-Max
Danger Den&Swiftech wc
2x1Gb Mushkin Redline XP2 8000
OCZ Modstream 520 12U
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/408...pi12562us2.jpg
CPU-Z:http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=127931
on a bit of a sidenote to the norm, I am testing this board at present and have found that I can boot and run Superpi upto 420+ fsb. I have used Team Group 667mhz 3-3-3-8 kit and also Crucial Ballistix 3-3-3-12 pc5300 2gb kit. Normally when I test I run super pi, 3d marks and dual orthos for around 8 hours to get a good feel of the boards overall stable point for everyday use (obviously we all have different criteria in this department). Using an E6600 stepping 5 b1 es. This cpu can pass 11hours of stress Orthos on the P5WDG2 PRO at 427fsb.
I am finding that running Orthos at anything over 400fsb on the Abit fails with an hour regardless of any settings in bios (from spd to manual, vcore, vdimm etc). Even setting memset secondry timings way loose does not help. The same hardware can run Orthos at 427fsb for 11 hours on the P5WDG2 Pro, granted we can't really compare cross platform like this, though if the problem exists between Orthos and COnroe it should have been surfacing there too....
I was just wondering if a few of you guys would be kind enough to run Orthos (Blend test stress cpu/ram) for me at a variety of fsb's and see what results you get with different ram. I can then at least forwards some more info to ABit if possible about widening ram compatibility if possible.
I know this is XS and most people have different criteria to mine, I'm just asking a few experienced overclockers to come forwards and see what results they get at a point where I'm finding a hitch...
I'm not detracting from the benching ability of this board as it is great, 440fsb out of the box on the 9x multi is not bad...
thanks in advance for any help...
regards
Raja
I am struggling to get 4ghz stable with my E6700 w/ this Abit Max board no matter what settings and I had tried everything. Orthos always error out after 1hr like you. With the same setup using P5W was 4ghz Orthos and Dual Prime95 stable. I have a gut feeling that there is something wrong with Ram settings on this board.
thanks for confirming this for me buddy, anything over the 400fsb mark seems to bomb with Orthos stress test after 1 hour...
Let's see if other users can confirm this too.....
regards
Raja
I havent run prime for a while. I was able to run 28 hours without error at 425fsb when i first got the board. But anything higher than that my computer would freeze 8 seconds into orthos on any setting above 425. my vmch is maxed and my vdimm is also maxed, vcore is almost maxed=) and still freezes. I know its a mobo problem because with my ds3 i was able to run 438 fsb 24 hour prime stable. I am waiting for a bios to hopfully fix the problem. I am also very disappointed in the board. Only thing better than the d3s is that i can use low timings with this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Hi John,
what multiplier, cpu and ram were you using and was it blend stress test?
my tests have been on the default multi for an e6600 which is 9....
thanks for your help
raja
It was on large, but i will test blend rite now and see if its stable at 420fsb if so i will post again in 24 hours=)
thanks John don't forget to tell us what cpu, ram and multilplier you are using....
regards
Raja
sad to report froze in 18 minutes @425x9 with a E6600.
yep just as I suspected, you'll find it'll keep doing the same all the way down to under 400 depending on what ram you use....
THe bios needs work, as the Asus Pro's can run Orthos over 420fsb with far lower vcore no problems...
regards
Raja
Let me know where you find your stable point....