I'd just like a bios that can reliably post up around 400. I was hoing the 0913 would do it, but not so far. I still have a few settings I haven't tried, but I'm getting tired of it.
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I'd just like a bios that can reliably post up around 400. I was hoing the 0913 would do it, but not so far. I still have a few settings I haven't tried, but I'm getting tired of it.
yup.. for me also.. I think there are a little difference from 0830 and 0913 bios.. hope DFI is working with the bios much like Asus with there 975x boards.. mm.. even if its an Infinity.. :)
go go go DFI :rocker:
i have the Abit AWD max board on the way to replace my DFI. I never thought id replace a DFI board with an Abit, its kinda sad.
mm.. yup its really sad.. I know two person who have been active here in the DFI 975x post who have change their boards to gigabyte DS3 and Asus P5W DH Deluxe.. mm.. really sad.. :(
mm.. but I'm still waiting for the bios.. hope it will push through.. :)
Yeah if they could just allow booting at 400fsb on 4mb cache CPU's everyone would stop whinging.
Hopefully this new bios is magical. It seems that they are finnaly listening to the users.
I)ickie
I'm actually fine with 366, I just want the cold boot issue to go away and I'll be happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by I)ickie
I'm the same, I'm very happy at 360fsb, its the limit of my Zalman cooler but want the cold boot issues sorted out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Btrice
Just set the PCI-E frequency to 120 :PQuote:
Originally Posted by I)ickie
I have. I still cant boot over 385. I can clockgen there and know that i can get it stable at 400 but the bloody board wont boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by M3kk
It would only require them to loosen the chipset timings a little. Or include a forced 1333 bootstrap.
Now that I am seriously considering switching mobos, I have a question: Is the only advantage of a 975 over a 965 board support for sli/crossfire? If so, the DS3 at $147 seems like a deal all things considered. Now I just need to figure out if I want to pay the difference in selling this and buying that to gain 40mhz or so on the fsb (3.6ghz vs 3.24ghz is around 10% faster)
975x is also faster clock for clock than the 965 boards.
If you wanted to hold on to the Infinity I can see it getting better even if progress is slow (Cmon DFI give me 1333 strap)
If you are looking for pure OCability the DS3 is very good value.
yup.. DS3 is a good board for higher OC.. :D but I think I'm going to hold on for this Infinity board till the DFI Lanparty ATI R600 arrives.. :) Tony said that its really good.. :D but please DFI people don't stop working on this bios.. :)
but don't forget every board have a weakness :D at least I know mine already..hehehe ;)
Considering you're at 443fsb already, I don't doubt you like your board. I can't get over 365 (or haven't figured out the right combination of settings). Obviously 365 v 266 is quite an increase, but I really built this system to push 400fsb on air.
DFI: Please keep at it!
913 is no longer a beta bios on the dfi site. I didn't have much luck with it tho, no more cold boots but warm boots & failing to post wrecked my head. :mad:
hey anybody getting under 40c cpu temps when idling cause for some reason i can't get mine under it, with smartguardian, core temp and speedfan min what they have ever shown is 40c >_<. i'm using zalman reserator 1v2.
its really to bad DFI couldn't rescue the 975X with a better BIOS on this one... disappoints me actually.
Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
Especially when it is clear that the bios is what holds the board back.
I was only getting under 40 idle at stock with C1E enabled (at 40C exact with it disabled). Anybody else saying otherwise on Air without proof is spouting BS (been a few here and DFI-street saying such) or living inside an airconditioner. I may live in FL but my ambients are well within reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keiki
umm so do u think that under 40c with c1e disabled is not possible cause cpu is running so hot or is it something else maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Btrice
(my room temp is 28c atm, cpu idling 40-45c, nb about same and my ati is 35-38c)
hmm with a zalmann you should be able to get under 40 idle, but not at 3.5ghz maybe... let me check with my 3.5ghz e6300... p5b dlx though.
edit - yeah with 1.45v at 3.5ghz going below 40 doesnt look easy, im closer to 45.
I idle at 46-48' with my zalman & 1.47Vcore
yea maybe i was just expecting little bit too much from zalman and it's passive(and it really is silent) so 40c idle is not bad at all :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
i want to be able to get b/n 360-400 fsb too.i go through this forum everyday and i still cant get past 343 so i want someone to show me how to go about it .took a pic of the bios and voltages to show if anything is wrong in there
i cant upload pics cuz this thing keeps telling me i've uploaded the max of 5 pics
yeah the whole temp thing was just that zalman couldn't get it any colder because now with table fan blowing 10c air from outside to cool down reserator i get 34-36c idle with cpu and 29-32 with vid card :)
[i just hit 360fsb with a mini guide i got on dfi streets
hrm, i just hit 400+ FSB with the Abit AW9D-Max board without a hiccup. I think the DFI is going bye bye now...
damn you i'm still waiting my abit, hopefully tomorrow it's here :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Budwise
Hey man,
U got your new Abit ?
if this this mobo is good choice instead of this poor bad 975x/g
I get E6700 S6 B2 , i reached 370 Fsb but if I shut down computer ... no boot need a clear cmos same for 350 360 fsb ... so now i am running at stock speed.
I really disapointed bcs first time i choose DFI instead of Asus :( & i bought Mach II GT & still can't be able to get overclocking running . I Cry.
I wait for a last new bios , if not fixed ... i forgot this for ever .
congrats man.. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Budwise
visit this post even if your not using DFI infinity 975x anymore.. :(
DFI we are still here waiting for the bios.. :)
for me, the 830 beta BIOS is better than the 913 official...
go figure...
Well,
913 has been the best for reliable clocking but am still getting warm boot issues. I hope someone releases a killer board soon.
I)ickie
yup.. maybe a landparty.. :D hope its not that expensive.. mm.. is DFI not in a conroe craze? not unlike Asus and Gigabyte..there milking the conroe.. :D
but i'm not really in a hurry buying a new board.. I'll wait for new revisions and the Ati chips and Nvidia.. :D
but will not consider buying another board if the magic bios arrives.. sir Tony or any modders out there.. can you mod? the DFI bios.. ;)
As far as the 0913 goes, it did seem to alleviate the Windows reboot hang-ups that I had been experiencing. I still can't get over 365 though... I am rock stable at 360 however. Hopefully a new bios will make this board competitive... One way or another, I plan on getting my e6600 over 400fsb. Either this will be the board, or it won't. So far, it doesn't appear to be the one.
try 830, also set drive strengths to 3.0
still no bios from dfi? man!
3.8 ghz on asus ?that board surely has something to giveQuote:
Originally Posted by Dax5
yup yup.. Asus P5B deluxe can OC to the wall of your proc.. :D ..Asus works wonder with that chips.. :D i hope DFI also..
I would boycot DFI for what they have done with this board but they will prob have the next great Conroe board >.<
what are your temps like with that oc?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dax5
mm.. I think if DFI push through with the Ati RD600.. we will see another great board.. :D
VictorWang is benching the ati RD600.. :D
hope we could see the board in action now.. :D
:woot:
Quote:
Originally Posted by erwinz
i see you are still using the DFI mobo
yep.. :D will update my sig later.. I found my new proc.. E6400.. :D
my highest OC so far..
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/124204.png
validation: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=124204
you can really see the bottleneck on the strap.. :( can only run 4:5, see the validation.... cant run 1:1 waaa using 440fsb.. :( DFI where is the new bios..
this is with coldboots issue.. and this is bios settings.. :(
waaa... DFI wheres the new bios.. :)
edit:my bad for spamming
http://www.lejabeach.com/smilies/SPAM.JPG :nono: :fact: :slapass:
i get temps in the high 40's...Quote:
what are your temps like with that oc?
i had a dfi 975x before shifting to gigacrap and now ASUS =)
Hello
I have BIOS version 97TID830 cause 97TID913 seems to me worse
My settings are :
CPU Clock Setting 410
PCIE Clock Setting 118
CPU VID Offset Setting +162,5 mV
CPU VTT Voltage Setting 1,25 V
DRAM Voltage Setting 2,40 V
NB Chip Voltage Setting 1,75 V
Watching BIOS :
Current System Temperature 36 C
Current CPU Temperature 45 C
Current NB Temperature 43 C
I've tried more than 410 but nothing stabile
Any suggestions for better settings?
Dax5 , please tell me your settings
:rolleyes: Just bought new monitor. When i can afford a new mobo, i'm gonna chuck this crappy DFI. I'm on 0913 now & having serious warm booting probs. When are we gonna get a proper bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by I)ickie
DFI sux :mad:
i'm happy happy cause i sold my dfi today \o/ it was really hard to get reasonable price from it becaus nobody wants to buy mobo that sucks in oc'ing...Quote:
Originally Posted by colfin22
how much did you sell it for and where did you sell it?i'm more than ready to sell mine just dunno a better place to sell it.i tried couple of forums and no 1 wanna buy it .getting fustrated here!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Keiki
yeah, you will likely have a hard time selling this one... Its very much a disappointment to DFI fans...
:rolleyes: I'll gladly burn it when i got the cash for another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budwise
got only 130e(cost me 210e in july) >_< but its good as in the begining nobody was interested at all. sold it in one finnish forum :)Quote:
Originally Posted by slykid
woah.. xs members using DFI 975x infinity is diminishing.. waaaa :( wheres the bios????
somehow i dont think a bios will save this board...
Hopefully it will give DFI the message!
probably not
I)ickie
INSTEAD OF CHATTING (are other means)
PLEASE POST YOUR SETTINGS !!!
Stable settings E6600 :
CPU Clock Setting 408
PCIE Clock Setting 118
CPU VID Offset Setting +150 mV
CPU VTT Voltage Setting 1,25 V
DRAM Voltage Setting 2,45 V
NB Chip Voltage Setting 1,60 V
& add-on @ max
Geez, talk about "crying" wolf and users that have no patience. :p:
I had managed to get a stable 390Mhz out of the board with the 9/13 BIOS with no cold boot problems. It is called the bleeding edge for crying out loud. If you do not want to deal with annoying quirks then wait until second generation of chipsets (real NF 590 and Bearlake) to come out.
955X/975X chipset was designed back when P4XE was the hotness. C2D support was just an afterthought, so it is hardly a surprise that the 965 overclocks better. The 975X Abit and ASUS boards get a slightly higher FSB overclock due to 1333 strap support. The DFI Infinity overclocks damm well for being limited to an older chipset, 1066 strap and "value" product.
The acclaimed 965 family has it own annoying problems namely the known refusal to do a first-time boot with performance DDR2 modules.
The bottom line is that #1 rule with overclocking is "Your mileage may vary".
I am happy that my CPU managed to get a 45% overclock without too much trouble and can handle anything that I throw at it.
Sorry, about that here are the specs.
Allendale E6300@2.73Ghz|ASUS X1900XT@675/1530Mhz|2x1GB G.Skill CAS4 PC2-6400@783 3-3-3-8|DFI Infinity 975X/G BIOS 9/13/06 BETA, |PC P&C Sliencer 610|Audigy 2ZS|WD Raptor 74GB, Seagate 120GB & 160GB 7200RPM SATA|PX-716SA|PC-7B.
@ andrey_sebastia: Nice mem you got there. My settings are irrelevant. I can't get stable over 360-365. I'll give the PCIe 118 setting a shot though.
Er, and how did you get NB to 1.60 - hardmod? And I'll have to look for 'add-on', I don't remember seeing whatever that is. Did you change the drive strengths in your ram to 3x, I presume?
EDIT: Forget I mentioned the NB Volts. Don't know what I was thinking...
@Krogoth255:
Mind posting your settings?
My Infinity topped out around 390 also, however the Abit AW9D-Max is also a 975X and they have no problem doing 450+. And, no, it doesnt use the 1333 strap either. It is not the fault of the chipset, its the board. DFI clearly didnt want the infinity to come anywhere near the LanParty boards, that is all. Even for a 975X board, 350-390 max FSB is pretty poor in my opinion.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krogoth255
yup yup.. AW9D-Max is at 1066 strap also.. the problem is that, its an infinity model.. which clearly DFI's mainstream solution.. but for a "value" model it is good for me..Quote:
Originally Posted by Budwise
my highest OC is at 8x440 for the E6400.. but as you can see i can only manage 330 mhz for the ram module.. Asus and Abit solve this problems.. why cant DFI???
and another is the cold boot issues.. I can only manage 8x425 without cold boot issues.. pass that when I restart my pc.. cold boot.. :(
and as we have notice.. this board have clearly a compatibility issues with some memory module.. and most 2x1gig modules.. :(
all of this issues are not chipset related from what I know.. :(
we need DFI's support
Jeez, if I could 'only' manage 415, I think I'd be happy. But I'd probably still be looking at the Abits saying, why not 450?
I think at this point its safe to assume that the 0913 is the final bios for this board. It corrected a few last problems and that's that.
Do we yet know if this board will support Kentsfield? (Kentfield?) (Core 2 Quad?). That may be a final straw if it does not... Not sure what to do with this board if it doesn't work out. Sell it for $70 on ebay, I imagine.
I hope 913 isn't the final bios. I've got serious booting issues with 913 & thats only @ 360fsb.
DFI, Where's our proper bios? Don't give up on us :mad:
AW9D-Max = high-end, 975X Infinity = value. It is not exactly an apples to apples comparison. The vanila AWD9 would be a much closer comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budwise
I also suspect the DFI board is probably BIOS limited. From what I read the AW9D-Max has slimiar annoying quirks when you try to push the board to its limits. It goes to show that first-generation stuff is usually full of annoying problems and the second generation fixes most of them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tdenton1138
hey man.. I'm using E6400.. maybe its a lot easier to overclock Allendale's in this boards.. mm this coming week i'll borrow my friend's E6600.. I hope to see higher nos. also.. I'll post my result here.. :D
Hope we get another bios updates.. anybody knows the codes for the PC analyzer that coolaler have??? I have one too.. but I dont know how to translate the codes.. :D
I was responding to someone who blamed it on the 975X chipset for its poor clocks. I agree, the Infinity is not limited by its chipset, its simply a value board that is not a great overclocker.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krogoth255
1,60 v is min in bios settingQuote:
Originally Posted by tdenton1138
I think U can't go over 365 cause of the mem, the same with me
can't go over 413
I left drive strengths to auto
but I'll change them
Why don't you put my settings for fsb 410?Quote:
Originally Posted by tdenton1138
"who knows what other brands do!"Quote:
Originally Posted by RebelsHaven
FSB 413 Max for me
Look here what Team Extreem does, just like Corsair
With ATI x1900xtx default 3D I got hdr/SM3.0 2784 points
while
another got 3002 points with DFI x/g
and on Tom's Hardware 3200 points with NF4 chipset and FX62
ALL WITH THE SAME ATI FREQUENCIES (DEFAULT 3D)
Could someone tell me how to get 3000 points with this board ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by erwinz
PLEASE TELL ME YOUR SETTINGS FOR FSB 440
and temperatures too
I put 4:3 and 4-4-4-12 and I can't go over 413
It stalls in bios screen after a while
also after "infinity" screen it stalls , what is this symtom ?
and the temperatures are below 50
TELL ME YOUR MEMORY BANDWIDTH (w. SANDRA)
CAUSE IT MIGHT BE MAX under 8500 MB/sec
with any proc/mem combination
This might explain why E6400 can obtain FSB 440 and E 6600 can't
he is at 440 because its an Allendale, not Conroe...
What's hapenin' ?
Is this thread DEAD ?
Is it true
DFI is stuck on the 1066 strap ?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=105703
hey man.. most 975x chips are in the 1066 strap.. i'll post my bios later.. i'll just edit this post.. :)
here are my settings..
I use the 0913 bios..
My settings are :
CPU Clock Setting 440
PCIE Clock Setting 101
CPU VID Offset Setting +15 mV (not sure.. will confirm later..)
CPU VTT Voltage Setting 1,25 V
DRAM Voltage Setting 2,30 V
NB Chip Voltage Setting 1,75 V
all the streght for the dram is set to 3x
*note that i set 400mhz for the memory on my bios.. when i change it to 533mhz.. it will not post..
*and also when i reboot my system.. it will not boot again.. (cold boots)
*this is just my highest OC but not stable because of the cold boots..
I heard you can run sli on this board with hacked drivers? Is that true?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=106212Quote:
Originally Posted by 2k7zero
Will the Abit AW9D be able to run sli with hacked drivers?
I think so.. :D better try it and post some results.. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 2k7zero
erwinz You are great if u unlock dfi to 1333 strap
"So if you have a 1066fsb CPU there will be some headroom in the 1066fsb mode but the chipset will eventually give in and overclocking will be hard
We are seeing this with the boards that are stuck on the 1066 strap like the DFI etc"
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=105703
"Now, it looks like Asus have found a way to engage the 1333 strap on the CPU but are tricking the NB into thinking its on the 1066 strap. It also looks like they have the strap auto switching in bios with the end user not seeing they have moved to the 1333 strap on the CPU, while this is a slick way of overclocking it also will confuse some."
and indeed ASUS DH gets to FSB 450 and above
"CPU Clock Setting 440"
I just can't go to 415, and a left yhe memory loose latency and 4:3
Must be that I have E 6600
The only explanation is that 1066 strap sets a MAXIMUM BANDWIDTH TO 8400 MB/sec
and that with much NB cooling
if i take down fan rpm toward NB it SYS. STALLS
MUST BE
407 x 9 = 440 x 8(your proc multipler) = 3700 MHz => results the same mem bandwidth
What is your memory bandwidth (with sandra) Erwinz ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by erwinz
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrey_sebastia
you got a point bud.. i'll try to post my bandwidth in sadra this.. weekend.. currently my rig is not assemble.. I'm a bit busy trying out my friends psu... :D and this weekend I hope to borrow my friends E6600.. I'll post my result..
mm.. hope we can see the DFI lanparty intel edition in action.. :) i really like to buy another mobo.. :D
Just sold my Dfi :banana:
Now, Asus p5w dh or Abit Aw9d :confused:
waaa.. :( ..i'll wait for the DFI RD600 Lanparty.. :D hope it is worth the wait.. ;)
good luck with your new mobo.. mm.. Dont you want to try the Asus P5B-E Plus?? ;) i think its a killer mobo.. :D
Not heard bout it, is this it: https://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=325482Quote:
Originally Posted by erwinz
Was thinkin bout 975 mobo as i'd prob go xfire before long
Edit: read the thread on the other Intel forum, looks like a good mobo, is it available yet, cant find it anywhere in europe.
If Asus could engage 1333 strap on DH
the hardware : i975x would allow the same thing for DFI
Let's post requests to DFI engineers mail addresses
I've posted some :), don't leave me alone
DFI just released "10/26" BIOS on their website.
So far it is a bit more stable then 9/13. (no cold, warm boot issues yet)
I am priming at 395Mhz ATM to see if it holds up.
thanks for the heads up. i am going to flash bios v2006/10/26 and play with it a little.
soneone tried this bios? is it better than 913?
Helped the cold boot issue but it did not fix the problem. I think it is hardware related and will probably never be resolved?
there are better boards out now anyways
1026 bios did not help me get over 366. It did however seem to make hl2 bsod after 10 or so minutes at the same settings as 0913. I going back to 0913 while I try to decide what board to replace this one with. I've been holding out for the rd600 though now the nvidia seems interesting as well. Of course, since I have an ati graphics board, I imagine I'll stick with a crossfire mobo.
hey not a bad idea but im going SLI!!Quote:
Originally Posted by tdenton1138
hey the DFI infinity serves me for its price.. and remember its a 975x chipse.. :) ..will be waiting for the 680i to mature and the RD600.. :) hope DFI will show us a king of the LANParty.. :woot:
:banana:but I am using 11.13 beta bios!! I succeed vsb 470!.
the bios 11.03 is better than the bios 11.15 in overclock!
Good luck to DFI 975x/g user.
http://www.amdmania.com/bbs/data/hwstory/fsb_470.jpg
[My System]
cpu : e6700es B0
mainboard : DFI 975X/G <bios 11.03>
ram: corsair 8000ul 512MB*2
vga : x1800gto (16ppipe!!)
power : ocz powerstream 520w
cooling : tuniq tower 120
Yeah, at 415fsb I would be happy too. All I wanted was 400+, but this board let me down at any price.Quote:
Originally Posted by erwinz
470 fsb?
new bios I can boot up at 430fsb on 9x multi with e6600, stable is around 415 to 420 I think...
bang for buck best 975 board going for air and water oc's on an e6600 24/7...
regards
Raja
This is a new beta bios by dfi:
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Upload/BIOS/97TIDC15.zip
Major Reasons of Change:
1. Enhance CPU O.C. performance.
2.Support Intel conroe L processor.
Bye
what are the temps like on air?
my environment temp is 20 celsius degree!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Babsy
lately in my conuntry the season is a winter.
hey can you post the link of the 11.13 bios.. :D your right the 11.15 bios is no good in oc.Quote:
Originally Posted by littleBoy
Better then your AW9D huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Not to shabby at all.
Quote:
Originally Posted by littleBoy
Very nice, what ram timings? This things seems to do very well with fatbodies.
i wasn't able to find 11.13 beta bios..do you by any chance have a link to it?