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Just upgraded my memos :D. I've changed my hdd drive ... had some problems, and found a strange behaviour from a driver or program ... In the latest Sisoft Sandra the Memory bandwidth was somehow limited to about 3,5GB ... I had to reinstall win to solve this problem, and now I've got about 7,6-8GB. I'm waiting for some coolers for the memos then I'll see how high can they go. ;)
i asked for both boardsQuote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
mmmm i have to ask GB if okQuote:
Originally Posted by zicada
don't want to create issues with RMAs if something goes wrong
i meant dual coresQuote:
Originally Posted by Kashelz
btw i did receive a new bios from GB last night F2 0155 bios
it had half multies in it but they didn't stick in windows
i could force them with CrystalCPU only at default settings in bios
if i select FSB in bios i cannot use half multies
what is the point of loadline calibration when it doesnt work? seems kind of pointless, besides that i love the board.
Its waste of time, need hardware mod and then all will be fine with voltage regulation :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
Except that maybe they will make us a surprise ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kashelz
IT does seem to work, just not as well as anybody had hoped, since alot of it lies in the hardware.
On vcores below 1.52V there's a clear improvement atleast on my system with the official F7. Higher up, its about the same as it used to be.
Does anybody here use a X38-DS5? I feel like I'm the only one :D
So far I managed to do 400x9 stable with Q6600, but the Vdroop is horrible - 1.425 in bios = 1.34 V with DMM :( 425x8 is stable, but 410x9 is not, no matter what votage - it looks like this board's PWM is too weak for high clocking quads.
No, you're not the only one, but mine is out of order at the moment (see http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ostcount=1415). I see "stock heatcrapipes" in your sig - damn right you are, the thing is really trashy for a board at this price. I couldn't OC at all before replacing it. The board never really convinced me entirely. Don't know how many times I had to reset the CMOS. Didn't have the chance to test the F5 Bios though - are you using it? What RAM exactly did you put in? Did you ever play with "Clock skew control", the thing nobody knows what it is and what it does? Have you tried active NB cooling? Man, all these questions...finally somebody with a DS5 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by xoqolatl
@ dinos22
I've tested Max fsb with dual core with one new toy E8200 retail and you right m8
f5H and f7 gave me maximum 527-528 fsb
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1...201mcw6.th.jpg
And F3 gave me 555 :eek: with CPU only @ 1.48V idle and load , no Vdroop almost with 45nm duals :rofl:
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9...1mhztq0.th.jpg
No active cooling for me, with all those Thermalright coolers I can barely see the NB cooler let alone fit anything anywhere around it...Quote:
Originally Posted by 2DIFF
RAM: I dont know what exactly are they, it's D9GMH, default SPD is 1.8V, 800MHz, 4-4-4-12. I might ask Saaya if he could check it for me. Both sticks are in second slots (slot 2 & 4), because HR-07's didnt let me use a fan on Ultra-120 when mems were in slot 1 & 3.
I did check clock skew control, it was 800ms default, changing it to 900ms did nothing. I'm satisfied with CPU clock, now moving to RAM clocking.
silly question perhaps?.. should we enable load calibration in bios on x38 dq6?
you are lucky i lose a lot more FSB lolQuote:
Originally Posted by DStealth
Yepp the MB is great i dоn't believe, till now:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
572 FSB out of the budget E8200 CPU and Sub 10 sec 1M SuperPI
GB X38 DQ6 no mod F3 bios
SuperT 2x1gb @ 1144mhz 5-4-4-10-4 PL8
Water MP05SE + Ek8800 Vmodded G80 in the loop - 21.5* Ambient temp
4575mhz @1.52V:cool:
1M SuperPI 9.953
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2...1m99un3.th.jpg
:up: :up: :up:
Wow, so how are u guys finding the new 45nm CPUs? Looks like youre getting good results. I have the first released E6600 but i think its time to upgrade. I was going to get a Quad but i think the 45nm duo is the way to go for me.
Wow
Cant believe you guys are getting your memory stable at X-X-4-X!
OCCT fails on my at anything i throw at it with tRP at 4 for some reason. It has to be 7. It appears i can turn off auto in memset and tighten All Precharge to Activate and All Precharge to Refresh delay manually though.
Dinos' is ofcouse 100% right about F3. It IS the best BIOS for dualcore setups. Memoryperformance is throught he roof compared to all the others.
At 4-4-7-7 460fsb 1:1 (920mhz) i get like 9450 - 8950 - 9250 53.2ms in Everest with the E6750 and Crucial Ballistix 1066 5-5-5-15 memory :D
As im writing this, OCCT has run for 6 hours at those settings.
F3 droops horribly though, but not under load. 1.53750 in BIOS = 1.5000 in OS idle, and 1.49 (and stays there) under load.
Also notice the 3.3V and 12V rails flucuate quite a bit more with F3 than F7 with LLC on.
Anyway. To anyone who has'nt done so yet. In memset, set tRFC to 20 or 22 and tREF to 16383T. Those should be stable for pretty much any setup, and give you quite a nice little boost in bandwith and latency.
Finally, i was pretty sure Performance Enhance = Turbo only meant TRD -4. If i set it to Normal in BIOS and set TRD down from 12 to 8 manually with memset i get poorer performance than with Turbo on. Not sure why this is,- maybe it actually does change something else, i dunno.
PS
Regarding TRD Phase adjust. Afaict, its used to fine tune the difference between two levels of TRD. Say you can run 8 but not 7, apparently you can set it to 8 and use Phase adjust to get "closer" to 7. Im not completely sure what the math is on it though, or if thats what it actually does, but it does seem to have an impact on performance (once you get a setting thats bootable). Any input on this setting would be appreciated.
Memset sometimes has problems reading out tREF. If you see tREF 16383 it is due to a bug, it's not current tREF.Quote:
Originally Posted by zicada
Micron IC's might do tRC 20 or 22, but there are other IC's out there, Powerchip eg., that need a much higher tRC.
Set all timings in BIOS manually, the BIOS has bug with tRD "Auto".
FSB460 1:1:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/460x8j60.jpg
Wasnt aware of the differences were that big for tRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by merlin76
Standard tREF on my system is 3120T. The higher you set it though the more performance you gain. Doesnt seem to affect stability much at all.
What is the default voltage on this board? I just installed F& and my ram needs 2.2 at stock voltage for 5,5,4,12. I am a little hesitant to do +.4 overvoltage without knowing this is 1.8 default and .4 will bring me to 2.2
Setting it to auto while having Performance Enhance on Turbo, should set it to 2.2 automagically. You can see current voltage in BIOS. The voltage selector will allways add to 1.8 though, so +0.4 = 2.2, regardless of Performance Enhance or SPD info.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadShotWI
i am specifically talking about FSB for F3 bios on DDR2 board
the RAM OCs the same with other bioses for me
F3 bios has very good 1M SuperPi efficiency on Penryn but it is very bad in 32M SuperPi
try and compare if you like ;)
i have no problem running x-x-4-x at all on any of my boards
I compare and the price also. Here in Romania a memory set like yours is over 1000$.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
With that money I build another computer ...
dinos22: I'm interested what is your memory bandwidth in sisoft sandra.
yes but just buy some micron stuff and give it voltsQuote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
hell it won't be as good as these but i'm sure you'll get close :shrug:
i don't install sisoft crap on my HDDs
What helps on never ending power on power off loop?
Brand new board and so weird behavior.
Only one time I have been able to get in Windows.
Anb few tiimes into bios, but everytime I save settings it starts that reboot loop again.
Setup:
- GA-X48-DQ6 F4 bios
- 2x1GB A-Data DDR2 800+
- 200GB Seagate S-ATA
- Optiarc S-ATA DVD+-RW
- Corsait TX 750W PSU
- Geforce 7500LE 256MB PCI-e
Any help, please?
My GA-X38-DS5 won't go into Bios anymore. The board has now been cut off from circuit for one week, but it's still the same. I can forget about RMAing it, because the silent-pipe was removed (and cut in half :clap: ). The thing that would have to be done is to rewrite the Bios-chip(s). Anybody knows who could do this besides Gigabyte? Is there another way to rescue this board? Or do I really have to trash a 250 $ board?
Any advice would be appreciated!