RD600 first look and general questions

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01-30-2007, 03:59 PM
Kin Hell

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Originally Posted by OldGuy

I would contact DFI direct...DFI contact page

LOL...same as I had on my SLI DR Expert board...Fill in a MASSIVE PLETHORA of questions only to get:

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Wtf ever happened good old Email? :rolleyes:
01-30-2007, 07:20 PM
fhpchris

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Originally Posted by pcdoc1

What kinda of BS is this? What do ya want from a 2.4 spec chip?

It's amazing how much reality has slipped away from so many....

I want to see 4ghz orthos. It can and will happen. I want to see 4100mhz Dual 32m. I want to see 4200 mhz 32m. I want to see near 4300mhz 1m.

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I understand, but ya buy a remarked 6600, spend an extra $12.00 because the box label says Xeon, and get sucked into believing you have bragging rights... No wonder I haven't posted here for months... (Nothing personal dinos)

You could try reading for once. Explain to me how every RETAIL Xeon, even my A stepping ones, are faster than my RETAILX6800 -- Some by over 100+ mhz and at over .1v less.

The Xeons are just better. Same case as the old CCBBE Opteron 165s vs a crappy 4800+/FX-60. In some cases, it DOES matter what those little letters on the box are...

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Yeah there is; $12.00, different packaging, and the argument they're binned higher.. Why would that be? Who OC's a server? The worst 6600 on the planet OC's 1 Gig by accident. I must be missing the point... Whatever, have a good one...

EDIT: Sorry for going OT.

Why are they faster? BECAUSE THEY ARE? I NEVER said that a normal E6600 cannot be fast, but if you go buy a random one from newegg, getting a top chip is just not going to happen unless the box says "L628B"
01-31-2007, 07:27 AM
afireinside

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Yeah there is; $12.00, different packaging, and the argument they're binned higher.. Why would that be? Who OC's a server?

Could you explain why a retail consumer chip would be binned higher? Who OC's a Dell? If anything, Intel bins their server chips higher with their best silicon just like AMD because server CPUs are typically run in hot rooms in tight spaces at high load for extended periods of time with 100% stability demanded from them.
01-31-2007, 08:56 AM
Nesato

This is/was to be first overclock project. While I have built a number of systems, my experience inside the BIOS has been limited. This machine was intended to be used primarily for video editing, 3D programs and Flash applications. At least that was my justification for building this expensive gamer! The sytem utilizes air cooling with 4 case fans plus PS and standard Intel CPU fan, as well as stock graphic card cooling. At idle, the system CPU temp is about 48-50 C and the chipset is 58-61 C. Under load, i.e. EVE Online,
the CPU temp climes to 60 C in heart beat (less than a minute) and the chipset to about 68-70 C. My question is how hot is too hot? What would be a reasonable, safe, stable overclock plan...2.66 to 3.2 and would I even notice that kind of increase to the performance of my graphic programs?

Thank you in advance for any help or advice.

Nesato
01-31-2007, 10:36 AM
Polynikes

If you want to keep your processor significantly cooler on air, I'd recommend the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7. I have it and my x6800 idles between 24c and 32c, depending on room temp. It's very cheap for such great cooling, and it's got the same mounting mechanism as the stock intel cooler. (Which can be good or bad, depending on how you look at it. :P)
01-31-2007, 02:24 PM
Yoxxy

L26A or 32A is still the best stepping...
01-31-2007, 03:11 PM
EnJoY

Quote:

Originally Posted by afireinside

Could you explain why a retail consumer chip would be binned higher? Who OC's a Dell? If anything, Intel bins their server chips higher with their best silicon just like AMD because server CPUs are typically run in hot rooms in tight spaces at high load for extended periods of time with 100% stability demanded from them.

Exactly correct. No one needs to say anything regarding this, because this is exactly it.
01-31-2007, 03:27 PM
fhpchris

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Originally Posted by Yoxxy

L26A or 32A is still the best stepping...

No "A" chip is the best stepping.. L628B isnt bad, and L629F isnt bad either...
01-31-2007, 03:49 PM
Ten

plz stay on topic i don't care if L628B i better stepping or some other, i just wanna have info on rd600.
02-01-2007, 07:34 AM
Blacklash

X-bit's review of the RD600:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mai...-icfx3200.html
02-01-2007, 08:38 AM
nealh

got say I am disappointed by my NB temps..replaced HS goop with AS5..placed a small fan on it..idle temps are 47C!!!..stock

My cpu at idle is 34-36C..stock vcore with WCing....based on SmartGuardian, but core temp reads the cores as 31C(but the temp does not flucuate at all)
02-01-2007, 09:47 AM
Praxis1452

Quote:

Originally Posted by nealh

got say I am disappointed by my NB temps..replaced HS goop with AS5..placed a small fan on it..idle temps are 47C!!!..stock

My cpu at idle is 34-36C..stock vcore with WCing....based on SmartGuardian, but core temp reads the cores as 31C(but the temp does not flucuate at all)

maybe it's convex?

anyway what cpu cooler are you using?
02-01-2007, 12:42 PM
exhausted mule

ok. just a quick post to see if anybody has had this problem and hoping its just a small problem i'm idiotically overlooking here.

first boot with this board and everything "seems" fine (no beeps) except i get no video. have a vga plugged into an x700 however my screen doesn't register any video.

Something i'm missing here?

i have the card plugged into slot one. no beeps, ps2mouse/keyboard. ram plugged in, hdd and cd drives are plugged.

I get an odd lettering on the lcd post display

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3084/postfu7.th.jpg

would incompatible ram cause this?
02-01-2007, 01:02 PM
OldGuy

Enable the system speaker if you already haven't, it is off by default. Remove everything you don't need but for one stick of ram in slot closest to cpu. Memory issues will give you a "C1" error code...
02-01-2007, 01:14 PM
marauder16

got the mobo :D now to start the testing, yay! :banana:
02-01-2007, 05:06 PM
exhausted mule

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldGuy

Enable the system speaker if you already haven't, it is off by default. Remove everything you don't need but for one stick of ram in slot closest to cpu. Memory issues will give you a "C1" error code...

nooo beeps. nothing.

I have contacted dfi will see what they have to say.

why couldn't dfi put onboard video...
02-01-2007, 05:10 PM
safan80

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Originally Posted by exhausted mule

why couldn't dfi put onboard video...

For three reasons: 1) it's crap 2) Why would you want it? you should have a backup video card at all times 3) it would make the motherboard more expensive
02-01-2007, 05:12 PM
exhausted mule

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Originally Posted by safan80

For three reasons: 2) Why would you want it?

to eliminate video card driver issues from the equation in situations like this

(yes. the card works..)
02-01-2007, 05:30 PM
AbelJemka

Thinking like this, they could :
1 - put a second socket to eliminate socket issue.
2 - give a free ddr module to elimate ram issue.
3 - give X-Fi to eliiminate Karajan module issue.
4- etc...
:rolleyes:
02-01-2007, 05:31 PM
Polynikes

I hate integrated solutions as they are often inferior, with the notable exception of network controllers. It's just another thing to go wrong.

I'm also glad you can remove the audio connectors on the ICFX3200, like I can remove the wireless LAN hardware on my P5W DH. It's nice to have it out of the way.
02-01-2007, 05:38 PM
nealh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxis1452

maybe it's convex?

anyway what cpu cooler are you using?

updated my sig

cpu cooler ..watercooled..Storm rev2
02-01-2007, 07:43 PM
Praxis1452

well core temp and TAT both don't work with vista right now so overclocking is going to have to wait before I start heh.
02-01-2007, 07:44 PM
OldGuy

RAID update...I decided to give it one more shot with four drives. I made two changes and am in the process of doing a full blown format :) In the bios I selected AHCI instead of RAID and setting up the array I enabled fast initialization. I think for some reason this was actually enabled by default the first time I hooked up two drives which is why it worked so I wasn't paying attention when I tried to go with four drives later on. Don't know why it was disabled after the fact but oh well.

I'll post some HDtach numbers in a little while...
02-01-2007, 08:59 PM
erwinz

nice to hear that you made it to work.. :)
02-02-2007, 08:26 AM
M3kk

Any beta bios?

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