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10-21-2013, 05:30 AM
Handrox

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Originally Posted by Vassili

A Dutch site review site put up some benchmark numbers:
http://us.hardware.info/productinfo/...ab:testresults

I don't know if these number are already known? They haven't published the review yet, so it looks like a mistake to put it online already?

stellar numbers ... dammit!

http://hardwaredebate.com.br/forum/a...nt.php?aid=289

http://hardwaredebate.com.br/forum/a...nt.php?aid=290
10-21-2013, 05:41 AM
Chickenfeed

Ladies, any chance we can stow the bickering and personal attacks and behave like civil people?

No need to make all this stuff so personal. Unless you are a marketer or have huge stakes in a given companies future... why care so damned much? Spend more time using and enjoying said products instead of fighting about why others should and shouldn't use them...

On point, does anyone know if quiet mode / user mode is hardware selectable (ala 6970) or a software option this time?
10-21-2013, 05:49 AM
nossy23

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Originally Posted by Heinz68

Radeon R9 290X Pictured, Tested, Beats Titan

Only Aliens vs. Predators 3, and Battlefield 3 tested by other site than TPU. See the pictures and graphs there also good read about the specs some rumored some true.

Posted today at TPU

Those benches were done with an overclocked R9 290X.
10-21-2013, 05:59 AM
Handrox

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Some more results R290X vs GTX 780

Attachment 131591 Attachment 131592

*The R290X is eating the GTX 780 at high resolution, these 512bits in normal resolutions should not make a big difference ... but from 1600p being decisive this ...
10-21-2013, 06:02 AM
spursindonesia

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Originally Posted by vario

Uhm, most stock intel or AMD cpu coolers are able to run at 3-6k rpms.Nobody in their right mind would just set this coolers on MAX and whine about the noise.
This whole "issue" is not an issue.People doing MAX overclocks are either using water or are just doing benching, where noise is not a problem.
Everyone else is buying cards with better (and not blower type) than reference cooling ,and also if someone is looking for a OC in day to day situatuns like gaming, theyre OCing up to a noise threshold they desire.
In any case, MAX overclock is pretty much never usable because of the inefficiency, power and loudness.I CAN go 950 on my HD6950, however i have to go MAX fan and the card uses insane power amounts, so i run it at 900 with a quiet fan ,difference of few percent isnt worth the trouble.
Whats even more interesting, is the fact that we dont really know how loud reference of this even is!

Yeah, it's kinda a premature ejaculation thing to cry wolf regarding a reference 290X on air OC performance with 100% fan speed & its loudness, while any other high end, reference cards that i know will behave similarly when their fan pushed to the limit, more or less. Any high end reference card with 100% fan speed = loud, and 290X OC potential is still to be known, nothing is set on stone.

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Originally Posted by Piledriver

Amazing that now with 3 nvidia threads on the main page, opening this thread to try to find new information all you still find is nvidiots and their nauseating propaganda. Beware friends if you're not a nvidiot your post history will be reviewed and exposed!

It's quite amusing, isn't it ? :yepp:
10-21-2013, 06:05 AM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by nossy23

Those benches were done with an overclocked R9 290X.

Where do you see that?
10-21-2013, 06:10 AM
overclock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handrox

Some more results R290X vs GTX 780

Attachment 131591 Attachment 131592

*The R290X is eating the GTX 780 at high resolution, these 512bits in normal resolutions should not make a big difference ... but from 1600p being decisive this ...

If the results are accurate, the 290X is far better than expected. In a few games like BF3, it will be even faster than Titan
10-21-2013, 06:29 AM
Handrox

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Originally Posted by overclock

If the results are accurate, the 290X is far better than expected. In a few games like BF3, it will be even faster than Titan

Yep. Let us hope that yes, I start thinking that the GTX 780 Ti will be able to not R290X
10-21-2013, 06:30 AM
Heinz68

Quote:

Originally Posted by nossy23

Those benches were done with an overclocked R9 290X.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEC911

Where do you see that?

I'm wondering about the same, it says nothing about the overclock in the article
http://www.techpowerup.com/191312/ra...ats-titan.html

nossy23, any other links?
10-21-2013, 07:13 AM
Sparky

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Originally Posted by tajoh111

My AC just as the regular fan type fan. And up close, even that is too noisy. Its good to have the AC outside and not have to listen to the noise up close. I wish computer cooling could be like this. Well I guess it can in summer time, with an air duct hose attached to a vent. In winter time too, but I think that's too hardcore at this point.

Not the one in your AC condenser outside, I meant the blower in the air handler that blows the air through your ductwork ;)
10-21-2013, 09:59 AM
vario

People, we may as well discuss loudness of waterfalls and how that affects loudness of gpus because SOME people live near them ...
To teh point, there is no data for R290X loudness.So theres nothing to discuss on the matter.

As for PurePC.pl scores, i can vouch that this is pretty not biased site, which normally is pretty professional in their approach, they never do fakes also.So theres that.
As for my own speculation, i think they got AMD`s blessing on releasing those few scores (high res results only) but the testing and platform was their own.
10-21-2013, 10:54 AM
informal

New Hawaii chip looks like a monster performer :). OC and CF two of those and it will be basically untouchable.
10-21-2013, 11:12 AM
Olivon

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Originally Posted by LordEC911

Where do you see that?

I think he's right. Upper bar looks like a 290X overclocked.
I also guess that 2nd bar and third bar are 290X and 780 both@stock.

Hardware info numberz :

http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/7d9...949813a0de.jpg
10-21-2013, 11:13 AM
Ace123

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-29...mes-eyefinity/
10-21-2013, 12:31 PM
paulbagz

That wattage.

Sounds like its back to to 1200w+ PSUs for triple setups.

-PB
10-21-2013, 12:34 PM
Ace123

I guess my 1600w is good to go!
10-21-2013, 01:32 PM
nossy23

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Originally Posted by LordEC911

Where do you see that?

Benches came originally from over here:

http://videocardz.com/45753/amd-rade...ster-gtx-titan

"The leaker claims that his sample could run at 1020 MHz core clock and 1250 MHz memory clock. That would be the peak performance for the new Radeon (we don’t know yet if this is the reference clock). You may think that 1250 MHz clock for the memory is not very high, but that’s due to wider memory bus. This is in fact 5Ghz effectives peed with a bandwidth of 320 GB/s. The Radeon R9 290X will operate at lower clock (something between 800 to 900 MHz), It has dual-BIOS feature for a reason. "
10-21-2013, 03:30 PM
Heinz68

Quote:

Originally Posted by nossy23

Benches came originally from over here:

http://videocardz.com/45753/amd-rade...ster-gtx-titan

"The leaker claims that his sample could run at 1020 MHz core clock and 1250 MHz memory clock. That would be the peak performance for the new Radeon (we don?t know yet if this is the reference clock). You may think that 1250 MHz clock for the memory is not very high, but that?s due to wider memory bus. This is in fact 5Ghz effectives peed with a bandwidth of 320 GB/s. The Radeon R9 290X will operate at lower clock (something between 800 to 900 MHz), It has dual-BIOS feature for a reason. "

Thanks for the link but I can't find anywhere in the article about the R9 290X was OC vs reference clocked Titan when tested. It does does not make much sense to compare video cards like that.

Also from the link:

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Speaking of power consumption, the leaker also posted his results in this field. Supposedly AMD Radeon R9 290X would consume less power than GTX TITAN (357W vs 372W). EDIT: Since we actually found the original source and thus charts, I suggest you take a look at them and see how each card performs.

Nothing about overclock in the charts.
10-21-2013, 04:12 PM
nossy23

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Originally Posted by Heinz68

Thanks for the link but I can't find anywhere in the article about the R9 290X was OC vs reference clocked Titan when tested. It does does not make much sense to compare video cards like that.

Also from the link:

Nothing about overclock in the charts.

Well he ran the benches and said "The Radeon R9 290X will operate at lower clock (something between 800 to 900 MHz)". While he ran the benchmarks at 900-1020.
10-21-2013, 04:30 PM
informal

I thought the operating clock range for stock 290x is 800-1000Mhz with clocks sittings at 940-960Mhz in vast majority of gaming workloads?
10-21-2013, 05:12 PM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by nossy23

Well he ran the benches and said "The Radeon R9 290X will operate at lower clock (something between 800 to 900 MHz)". While he ran the benchmarks at 900-1020.

The card was naturally boosting, there was no overclock on it, if he did actually have a card at the time.
10-21-2013, 05:53 PM
Heinz68

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Originally Posted by nossy23

Well he ran the benches and said "The Radeon R9 290X will operate at lower clock (something between 800 to 900 MHz)". While he ran the benchmarks at 900-1020.

Well provided the GPU clock speed in this chart, from the same link you posted is correct, that's not overclocking.
Attachment 131604
The article you linked was edited and made up from two sources. Most likely all the benchmark come from Chinese forum posts and a lot might have been lost in Google translation.

Good news is we have ONLY few days before the real benchmark. I doubt the R9 290X is going to be faster than the 1000 USD NV Titan. Maybe true in some games and probably more so in high resolutions.
10-21-2013, 06:58 PM
prava

Maybe those charts with 2 bars for 290X mean the "quiet mode" and "uber mode"? I read somewhere that those modes define TDP limits, and thus the card will boost higher on higher tdp limits.
10-21-2013, 07:09 PM
AliG

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Originally Posted by prava

Maybe those charts with 2 bars for 290X mean the "quiet mode" and "uber mode"? I read somewhere that those modes define TDP limits, and thus the card will boost higher on higher tdp limits.

I think they mean we need an official review. Odds are one of the data sets we've seen so far is real, but right now we have results all over the place with poorly labeled graphs.

Just give it a week and I'm sure a reputable website will answer all your questions.
10-21-2013, 07:26 PM
bill_d

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Originally Posted by AliG

I think they mean we need an official review. Odds are one of the data sets we've seen so far is real, but right now we have results all over the place with poorly labeled graphs.

Just give it a week and I'm sure a reputable website will answer all your questions.

:confused:
a week isn't it Thursday ?

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