**Official DFI LanParty UT X48-T2R(and LT) Discussion

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05-18-2008, 12:35 AM
karateo

I want the new bios for better support of the 2x2gb kits!!!!
05-18-2008, 05:49 AM
Sauron_Vie

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Originally Posted by xcluded

anyone with 45nm quads ?

care to share their oc results here?

jep, here u have:
05-18-2008, 06:00 AM
karateo

max fsb stable?
05-18-2008, 06:08 AM
Aldy402

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinaun

Please do let us know the settings. I find that there isn't a bunch of people with a Q6600 with this board. The GTLS are killing me, as anything in the 67% range for me is way off. More like 70%.

im using the q6600. In my case, I find the system more stable with the GTLS on auto.. Different story with the QX9650 I tested however..
05-18-2008, 07:14 AM
Sauron_Vie

Quote:

Originally Posted by karateo

max fsb stable?

not tested exactly yet, only tried once to go up to 450-460x6 and this was no probl. this needs much playing with the gtl´s. :rolleyes: but maybe i will try a little later how much fsb i can reach und share the results then.

c u
05-18-2008, 09:20 AM
bcsbcs

My appologies if this shouldnt be on this thread but I have the UT-X48-T2R and am using 2x2gb gskill 8500 1066 ram. I wondered if anyone could tell me how accurate the memory voltage reading in smart guardian is?
This memory is designed to run at 2.0-2.1v now if I set it to 2.0 in the bios SG reports 1.91 and if I set it to 2.1v it comes in at 2.03v. It would appear to be quite unstable at 2.0v set in the bios but it may just be that I need to work on the timings more.

[edit] bios reports 2.06v when set to 2.1v and it appears to be more stable, still getting complete lockup's in memtest so i'll have to try tweaking some more. maybee I need to up the NB volts.

Regards

BS
05-19-2008, 10:27 PM
Rinaun

I'm getting close to just giving up with this board; no matter what the damn setting it doesn't even like running stock settings. One thing that doesnt make this board easier to use is the fact that it seems little is known about gtls, or how to adjust them effectively without spending your life and soul sitting in a basement trying random settings (Sorry, but this board just pisses me off so far). I'm starting to wonder if my board is just a POS.
05-20-2008, 04:17 AM
zsamz_

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Originally Posted by Rinaun

I'm getting close to just giving up with this board; no matter what the damn setting it doesn't even like running stock settings. One thing that doesnt make this board easier to use is the fact that it seems little is known about gtls, or how to adjust them effectively without spending your life and soul sitting in a basement trying random settings (Sorry, but this board just pisses me off so far). I'm starting to wonder if my board is just a POS.

chek your ram settings
only problem i see on the board is after 550fsb
anything that cant run stock needs rma but chek your ram
05-20-2008, 05:07 AM
Praz

The P45 chipset still needs tuning from all board manufacturers. But it looks like the X48 will still be able to hold its own. Top screenshot is from Anandtech on the ASUS P5Q Deluxe. Bottom screenshot is done on the DFI UT X48. Both using OCZ Flex II 2x2GB 1150MHz memory. Impressive when the difference in speeds is taken into account.

http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=3314

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http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/...evcpu3dvan.png

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...erest_64_l.jpg
05-20-2008, 05:42 AM
vcp-cur

I posted a thread on the DK X48 but oh well...it dissapeared.

Does anyone have a DFI DK X48 and has anything good to say about it? or why one should consider the X48 instead of X38 or even P35 ?

am just looking for some info...

thanks
05-20-2008, 05:47 AM
karateo

nothing to compare there from my point of view
from different OS optimisations to different system timings

and P45 is "worse" than X48, so X48 has to be faster!
05-20-2008, 06:03 AM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by karateo

nothing to compare there from my point of view
from different OS optimisations to different system timings

and P45 is "worse" than X48, so X48 has to be faster!

Both screenshots were done with Vista 64Bit. I really doubt that Anandtech is using an optimized operating system. Mine is a stock install as well. The article stated the configuration was stable as is mine. And the timings are naturally going to be different as the chipsets are different. Regardless, both screenshot contains nice results for 2x2GB modules.
05-20-2008, 07:42 AM
emoners

which is better, higher or lower numbers?

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/7...ambenchqf3.png
05-20-2008, 07:48 AM
karateo

latency lower
all others higher
05-20-2008, 08:46 AM
ZenEffect

does anybody know how to change the tref without having to use memset? or does anybody know the tref per strap? i can only "match" the bandwidth i had on a maximus formula, but cant get to the level that i had on rampage... most likely due to the fact that i cant get pl6 or cas4 + pl5 on this mobo.
05-21-2008, 02:17 PM
Rinaun

A multimeter is useful, as I have found smartguardian is bad at telling voltages. Bios VTT = 1.415 actual = 1.438 with Q6600. Anyone get these results or similar, or am I just reading it wrong?
05-21-2008, 06:58 PM
zsamz_

praz how come the l2 cache latency is so high?
05-21-2008, 07:13 PM
Praz

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Originally Posted by zsamz_

praz how come the l2 cache latency is so high?

Don't know. Probably something only Intel would be able to answer. Looking at Gary's screenshot looks to be about where the 45nm dual cores run at. Only 0.1ns difference between the two screenshots.
05-22-2008, 09:23 AM
davidk21770

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinaun

A multimeter is useful, as I have found smartguardian is bad at telling voltages. Bios VTT = 1.415 actual = 1.438 with Q6600. Anyone get these results or similar, or am I just reading it wrong?

I haven't tried this MB yet (right now, it's at the top of my list;)), but all MBs are notorious for being a little off on the voltage readings (and settings). You really need a multimeter for an accurate reading and setting -- especially if you're planning to push to the very edge.
05-22-2008, 09:59 AM
cstkl1

been playing with the asus p5k deluxe ddr2 version

after 2 days.. into the bin u go.. :P
and back to dfi LP x48.. come home to mama :P

the asus board bios 0405 is freaking flawed..

will wait for more bios update for it

also it has corruption issue with the bios..
one wrong ram timings.. it will revert to the duallie bios to the stock mobo bios which is even worse..
05-22-2008, 10:02 AM
cstkl1

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

praz how come the l2 cache latency is so high?

thats normal for vista..
it keeps changing... so dont bother with it..
05-22-2008, 02:00 PM
Praz

LANParty UT X48-T2R, E8400, 480x8, Post 1 Of 3

E8400 04/02 BIOS
480x8, Memory 1152MHz
2x2GB OCZ PC2 9200 Flex2
XFX8800 GTS (G92)
Air Cooled - 120 Extreme
tRD - 7, Memset Misreads The Value When Set Manually
Yellow Slots Used For Memory
VDIMM Measured 1.887V

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...ios/main_s.jpg http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...ios/volt_s.jpg

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...s/dram_1_s.jpg http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...s/dram_2_s.jpg

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image.../clock_1_s.jpg http://www.edgeofstability.com/image.../clock_2_s.jpg

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...os/phase_s.jpg http://www.edgeofstability.com/image.../feature_s.jpg

Code:

CPU Feature Page Thermal Management Control................Enabled PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Disabled Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled CIE Function..............................Disabled Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled Virtualization Technology.................Enabled Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled Main BIOS Page Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2 Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0 CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto CPU Clock Ratio...........................8x CPU N/2 Ratio.............................Disabled CPU Clock.................................480 MHz Boot Up Clock.............................Auto DRAM Speed................................333/800 PCIE Clock................................100MHz PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled Voltage Setting Page CPU VID Control...........................1.30000V CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto DRAM Voltage Control......................1.941V SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V NB Core Voltage...........................1.317V CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.100V VCore Droop Control.......................Disabled Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong Host Slew Rate............................Strong GTL REF Voltage Control...................Enabled CPU GTL 1/2 REF Volt.......................65 CPU GTL 0/3 REF Volt......................64 North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................62 DRAM Timing Page Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast Enhance Addressing........................Fast T2 Dispatch...............................Auto Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5 RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5 RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................5 Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................15 All Precharge to Act......................5 REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................54 Performance Level.........................8 Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below MCH ODT Latency...........................1 Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................13 Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11 ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3 Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8 Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............Auto Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................Auto Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............Auto Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3 ALL PRE to Refresh........................5 Read Delay Phase Adjust Page Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled Clock Setting Fine Delay Page Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 67ps DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 445ps DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 512ps DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 267ps Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 779ps Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 67ps DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 378ps DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 356ps DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 345ps Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 779ps Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................More Aggressive Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto
05-22-2008, 02:01 PM
Praz

LANParty UT X48-T2R, E8400, 480x8, Post 2 Of 3

XP SP3

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...prime_xp_s.jpg

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image..._3d06_xp_s.jpg

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image..._crysis_xp.jpg http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...152_ut3_xp.jpg

3dx Max w/V-ray
Time to render: 15min 03sec

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...chmark_680.jpg

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...erest_xp_s.jpg
05-22-2008, 02:02 PM
Praz

LANParty UT X48-T2R, E8400, 480x8, Post 3 Of 3

Vista 64 Bit SP1

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...prime_64_s.jpg

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image..._3d06_64_s.jpg

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...3dvan_64_s.jpg

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...cmark_64_s.jpg

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image..._crysis_64.jpg http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...152_ut3_64.jpg

3dx Max w/V-ray
Time to render: 16min 24sec

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...chmark_680.jpg

http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...erest_64_s.jpg
05-22-2008, 02:09 PM
Jultsu

OK I just updated the UT version bios to my LT board, everything seems to be working just fine. The CPU special VID has been disabled when vcore is set under 1.3000v. The Vcore turns red when going past 1.4500v :) Other than that, no other visible changes (apart from a new POST screen).

I'm still struggling to get my comp prime95 stable with 8 gigs 9x400MHz. I can do 5-8h prime95 blend but after that a BSOD. :(

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