Got another 970 and a 920 d0 on the way for playing.
The 970 that's on the way has been run up to 4.8ghz on 1.488v! :D :D :D
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Got another 970 and a 920 d0 on the way for playing.
The 970 that's on the way has been run up to 4.8ghz on 1.488v! :D :D :D
I wish I could be bothered, I'm sitting here with 30GB of Hypers and just can't find the motivation anymore :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
Nice CPU. I wish it fulfills the expectations. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by zoson
30 Gigs! :eek: You could always buy something like M4E and 2600K to play around while waiting for something better, like I did. With those 30 gigs you will most probably find few of great sticks, as only great ones work with SB. But when they work - they kick a$$. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Nah not interested in SB and I've gone off tweaking things and overclocking myself, but still like reading about what other people have done.
Got my new 970 in. It does 4.2 at 1.35v instead of 1.375v for my old one. Woohoo. It also seems to be MUCH cooler... ~73C fully linx loaded instead of ~85! NICE.
Edit:
Oh hello! 4.5ghz HT on with less voltage than i needed on my old chip with HT off.
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/1863772.png
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1863772
Working on the LinX result now.
a sec. rig will immensely suck you into a few $$$ more.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
why so many sticks of Hypers, and whats the deal with Hypers...?
i have this ram i hate, 6GB OCZ Platinum 2000Mhz LV6GK 9-9-9-30, which i think is the *EOL*
they boot at almost any freq...2400mhz/2200mhz/2000mhz/1800mhz.
my problem is that they need atleast 1.72v, they either need only 1.29v qpi or more then 1.45v qpi, this is all done @ 4.2Ghz
with the i7 970 they barely made it to 20K/19K/21K in AIDA with C-States ON.
Same OCZ Ram with a nice i7 950 gave me 22K reads in AIDA C-States Off.
so i learned something, maybe im wrong....
the speed @ which the memory can transfer is sorely related to IMC ability to scale with OverClock.
is it the IMC what makes a golden cpu a golden cpu.??
I've had a second PC (sig) for years now (specs often changing but still). Its now always being used by my gf for her thesis so it stays at a very low OC with fans very low so she isn't worried about it crashing and is as quiet as possible. I have had a REX X48 prepped for sub zero, my LN2 pot and a couple of nice s775 CPU's that I used for benching awhile ago, but just don't want to do it anymore.
Why do I have 30 gigs of Hypers? I used to really like memory overclocking. I used to bench a lot of DDR2 Micron D9 GMH/GKX back in the day, ambient and on DICE, and Hypers were (and still are) the best for 1366 low latency high freq so naturally I ended up with a few kits when I changed platforms. Just not interested in it now but I still have my collection. Good for backup should anything happen to the kit in the PC anyway.
depends on how you define golden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andreezy
i.e. high core clocks, strong imc, low volts, low heat, etc. . .
and hypers are the shi(F)t, I am on the lookout for a set of GTX2's
Andreezy,
I think it is much harder to get a good IMC. I think it's also important to get a good core. I think my old 970 had a better imc than my new 970, but the new 970 has a much better and cooler running core.
Guys, do Rampage extreme III water blocks fit the black edition ?
I've held the black edition and the extreme 3 in my hand yesterday and I just can't get the black edition out of my head!
So so so so sexy !
No, I don't think they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salamndar
i wish i could afford to invest in more memory, donmarkoni has a nice set of 7-7-7-20/2000mhz which seems out of this world.....how lucky did he get to find that kit......Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
i wish i new more about my memory..
i know the set of patriot 12gb 9-11-9/27 is Hynix, but the other 2 im lost in the waters.
they are 6gb oczp2000lv6gk and the other is patriot viper 2 1600mhz 8-8-8/24.
i think i have a real good i7 950, i say it cause it can sustain a 4.4Ghz OC with 2000mhz/2200mhz ram with very low/heat volt.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoson
i'd have liked a good 6 core cpu, that could do 4.4 and i'd hold off from this sandyroad platform untill the waters are clear..
seems like the 4 core i7 is trying to stick around....
zoson how you figure the IMC was better in your old cpu?
:shocked: jaja 200usd per 2gb module........maybe this is the reason +why+ i have not beeing introduced to hypers, i thought you guys meant kingston hypers.......Quote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
corsair could keep them away from my pockets at that price.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...ry-review.html
Sticks with Hyper IC's (MNH-E and MGH-E) are EOL and no longer produced. I purchased mine both new and used. Nothing else will do DDR3-1700+ 6-6-6-18 or DDR3-2000+ 7-7-7-20, all the new ram is crappy timings and crappy IC's and SB seems to love it. My kits will do DDR3-2000 7-7-7-20 at ~1.65 - 1.70v so it's not really special, some are better than others though, and your IMC must be good to handle them.
new chip can't do 2166mhz memory. it does do 2133 stable, though.
New CPU does 4.4 22x200bclk with 1.49v set in bios ~1.48v real. Doesn't go above 84C either. MUCH cooler than my old cpu.
The IMC of the new chip is not as good as the old one.
Old CPU @ 2000 Mem = 7-9-7-24-4-88-10-6-24-0-1T
New CPU @ 2000 Mem = 7-9-7-27-6-88-12-8-28-0-1T
So much testing this weekend. :O
I also got a 920 D0 that supposedly does 4.2 @ 1.27v, so I've got to test that bugger also.
Cryptic, i dont know if these are hypers, but i dislike them a lot, its like the 1st and 2nd timing tables are programmable as they give me a wide range.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
i doubt they are hypers cause they are advertised as 9-9-9-30 @2000mhz.
the fuggers do like to boot at almost any freq if i give it the QPIv it wants.
zoson you had some very good outputs in AIDA before, it makes sense now how you test the IMC.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoson
good luck on the i7 920, i have a 950 that uses somewhat the same voltage ~1.28v for 4.2Ghz and it seems to run cool and have a strong IMC.
Thanks, but check out CryptiK's Hypers, they do 7-7-7-20 at under 1.7V and mine requires from 1.725 up to 1.775 depending on sub-timings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andreezy
Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Massive amounts of testing last night:
new i7 970 @ 4.4GHz 24/7 OC:
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...em-84gflop.jpg
i7 920 D0 @ 4.2 2ghz mem AIDA:
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...42-20-aida.jpg
The above SS is using the same timings as the new i7 970 and are untuned, so it might be possible to get even more bandwidth. This i7 920 d0 is a MONSTER. 4.2GHz at 1.28125v Core 200BCLK 2ghz Mem with 1.3375v QPI. It runs kind of hot though. 84C max temp. 4GHz Uncore, also.
Edit: woops, posted the wrong 920 image.
Are there any issues with BIOS 1301? I know in the past some people had issues with some of the newer releases, CPU temp display problems is one that I recall seeing.
I am on BIOS 901 and have not updated since I built my system. Everything is running fine, but I have started thinking about updating my BIOS and
Intel RST drivers from 1.0.0.1046 to 10.5.0.1027 or 10.5.1.1001
and my Crucial C300 from v2 to v7 firmware.
I prefer 0003 over 1301. They both work fine though and don't have the temp bug.
0003 gives you additional options that are not available in 1301. 1301 has the memory recheck feature to try and make tRL obsolete, but does not do the trick every time.
I am confused, what do you mean by 0003? There is not a BIOS 0003 for the R3E.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoson
Yes, there is. AFAIK, there are 27 BIOS'es so far for the R3E.Quote:
Originally Posted by idahosurge
Okay, I am just looking at what is available on the Asus download site.Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
Is 0003 a modified BIOS?
Where do you find a BIOS like 0003 that is not listed on the Asus download site?
0003 is not modified, it's Asus made, but it was alternate path of BIOS'es if may call it so.Quote:
Originally Posted by idahosurge
I don't remember any place with all of the BIOS'es, but I have a collection you can DL from. Of course, I take no responsibility for anything. ;-)
Thanks Don!
Am I correct that 0003 would have been one of the first BIOS for the R3E? If not is there anyplace that tells you when it was released and why (what changes were made)?Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
It is latest from the 0xxx series. You could search this thread for the changelog, but main thing is added tRL settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by idahosurge
ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
HI ASUS,
Us $400 per board R3E people would LOVE UEFI for our boards.... It should of had them in the 1st place, what you think UEFI was a fad?
R
The reason for a GUI interface is to simplify things, BIOS interface is already easy to use, so UEFI is kind off a marketing thing and currently doesn't add much IMHO.
I think UEFI is BIOS interface for tards in which the overclocking tab should be renamed to Herp Derp Settings.
Seiously if you cant figure out and navigate a BIOS as they are now, you shouldn't be in the BIOS to start with.
Oldschool FTW.
I am not against a GUI in BIOS but the problem with UEFI is that it is not unified.
Asus has an interface, MSI has another and so on, meaning that you'll need a knowledge with all the different GUIs to navigate in them.
Also I was taught from the first day of my college years of computer science and software engineering the following very valid rule :
"Do you want to create a solution for a problem or a problem that awaits a solution?"
UEFI in its current state is the later of the rule above !
Any other X58 that has UEFI ? What's the advantage in fact ? Making screenshots of the bios ? Lol, there wasn't even talk about PC UEFI when the RE3 was released...Quote:
Originally Posted by DualCpuUser
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
I don't see either why BIOS should be any more "user-friendly". We've got loads of BIOS settings during a few years that already help a lot, like flashing from USB, BIOS profiles etc. :)
Well, some OCers don't even know how to use old DOS commands...maybe it's the Windows generation that would need such BIOS ;-)
This wasn't open for comment, especially by those who haven't even read the specs or knows the history. This was for the ASUS monitors to send it up the food chain at the corp. office.
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by xarot
Yeah, I know what you mean. When I open command prompt and start typing some ordinary stuff, people usually say I'm crazy cause I know "that stuff".
Biggest one that I love is telling someone to look for a file. They click the search button, and I'm like NO NO NO dir filename* /s GO!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
Is there any potential problem with using USB BIOS Flashback with the ROG Connect port on the back I/O to update BIOS vs. using the EZ Flash 2 utility in the BIOS?
I used the ROG Connect port one time, but thought that I would ask before updating my BIOS this time.
First time Asus release UEFI was for P5Q Deluxe (p45) and it was terrible after i tested i switched very very fast back to the Ket's modded bios :)
In matter of fact i was never be able to update bios of my R3E with flashdrive connected to ROG usb and pressing and hold xx second rog connect button :( dunno why. Will try tonight with my R3BE. Bad thing (or maybe not ;) ) is that there is only 1 available bios was not able ti find any beta.Quote:
Originally Posted by idahosurge
If it's not open for comment, don't post in publicly on a public forum in a thread dedicated to discussion of the board you are referring to :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by DualCpuUser
If you want to "send it up the food chain", with all the influence a single person has good luck with that. If you must try, PM an asus rep. However your apparent 'love' of UEFI is not shared by every R3E user. I could care less how pretty a BIOS looks, I want functionality and features. Ive used it and think its a simple marketing ploy to make the BIOS more 'windows based what the hell is DOS gen-i kids' friendly. As I said before the BIOS is no place for people like that. They need to buy macbook's and skinny chai lattes.
And FYI try not to sound like an a-hole when you post if you can at all help it, you wont last long on here if you keep up that attitude.
Hi guys, I've been out of the overclocking world for a while. Too many things to do, but now, I decided to get back and want to modify my system.
I currently have two HD 5850 in crossfire x16/x16 on my RIIIE,
Will I notice a big difference with another HD 5870 or 5850 in triFire in x8/x8/x8 ???
I'm trading up again! My old 970 that does 4.5GHz 6c/6t + $150 for a 980x. It was run on air its whole life at 4.1ghz with 1.312v. Hopefully it's not a lemon and will do better under my watercooler.
You're insatiable ;)
Hope its a good one.
Hopefully that 980x will be a nice one. Need some water here. It is so hot that my fans are starting to warp up from the heat.
hey guys! ... i'd like to know, what do " cpu pll " do on gulftown and how does it have to be set, couse on my 980 either i'm at 4ghz or 4.8ghz and i leave 1.81 it doesn't have anyeffects ..... thanks for answering my question!
There's no has to be set value, it's a trial and error thing to find the PLL voltage that allows for a little extra stability at given speeds. The ideal vPLL at 4GHz will likely be different to the ideal vPLL at 4.8GHz.
i'm not following you ... O_o
What Cryptik is trying to say is "each chip is different" and it will require you to "experiment a little" and see what works for you. There is no one setting works for all.
This is true, my i7 930 at 4.3 Ghz needs 1.55v PLL and at 4Ghz , it needs 1.8v PLL, its trial and error, a lot of pleasure :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
well don't know what to say.... i'll start to play with this "new" value .....
Can anyone tell me what the best firmware and drivers for the Marvell 9128 SATA III controller is at the moment? I'm going to be installing and running some benchmarks on a Corsair Force 3 120GB and want to make sure I set it up right.
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/marvell.htm
I looked at Station-Drivers and it appears the latest driver version is 1.2.0.1003 WHQL but I'm not sure which one of the firmwares to use.
Slightly faster performance from the MSACHI miniport driver, than Marvells. I use this.Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
there is a new version 10.5.0.1034 Rapid Storage Technology for ROM (bios)
it's good or not to update the bios?
how we know what version RST is with the bios?
how to update?
thanks ;)
So you say you see better performance just letting Windows install the default AHCI driver than the driver from Marvell? When I run benches I'll try and test both so that I can get an idea what the performance difference is between them.Quote:
Originally Posted by DualCpuUser
Can anyone tell me what is the latest firmware from Marvell that I should install? There are three different ones on the Station-Drivers site and I'm not sure which one will work with the 9128 chip.
Code:Firmware pour U3S6 Rev 0 (MV-9123) Version:1.0.0.1028) Mod by Daoud333
Firmware pour U3S6 Rev 1 (MV-9120) Version:1.0.0.1028
Firmware pour MV-9123/9128 (Firmware:1.0.0.1701/2.2.0.1118/1.0.0.1029)
Has anyone who has installed BIOS 0003 noticed that at idle their CPU temp is 10 to 12 degrees C higher than what it was?
I went from 901 to 0003 on Saturday and just noticed this.
At idle with 901 my CPU temp was around 35 - 36. After I changed to 0003 it is now 46 - 47. BIOS, Speedfan and Aida64 all show this 10 - 12 degree increase.
All my core temps at idle are still what they were with 901 (37 - 42). Under load with OCCT CPU Auto test my CPU temp seems normal (61 - 63), my highest core temp at this load is 77 and that is normal.
Just wondering if anyone who has changed to 0003 has noticed the same increase in CPU temp at idle
Just doing some cleaning:cool:
Attachment 116631
Attachment 116632
Attachment 116633
Like new again:D
Attachment 116634
First boot after wash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmbaK...el_video_title
I hope that was distiled water...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasmus66
Nope normal water straight from the tap.Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
Then your board will most probably die in few week to few months due to corrosion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasmus66
Done this before with one of my other boards and it has been running fine for over a year now.Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
I hope this one does too. :up: But there are just too many places that water could creep in and stay for few hours doing damage, despite the fan drying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasmus66
Fan drying is not enough. It got 30 min in the oven at 60 degress celciusQuote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
I just use the dishwasher, and chuck in my board when I put a load on ;)
I've washed a vid card and the PCB of a phone before, came out ok both times. Also did heat dry them, dont want that staying wet too long.
Hahahaha who care is it destiled or not ?!?! Both are bad for mobo. I prefer the use of Isopropanol (Isopropyl alcohol) and brush, it even remove the awesome Taiwan smell of a new mobo :)Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
unbelievable :rofl:
i guess things must be done quick in competition:shrug:
gotta see this one being washed in the bathroom sink in a hurry:rofl:
probably used the hand dryer to blow it dry....:clap:
http://www.youtube.com/user/dracomac.../1/Qjd01h0HBKc
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andreezy
please note, the battery was ON...my god.
Noo, I like so much that smell...:DQuote:
Originally Posted by GunGod
The last page of this thread is full of win.
On another note, it has been confirmed by Raja that QPI PLL is linked to vIOH, not CPU PLL as ASUS Support previously told us. Check the ASUS official bios thread for a post by spoolsidm.
Is there a problem with running my QPI Link Data Rate at 7244?
Right now I am running at 5919 on the 18 multiplier and I want to jump the multiplier to 22 (7244) to see if I am still stable and to see if it will improve performance any.
The Icrontic Nehalem calculator gives a warning message about instability above 7000. This warning is for the 975, but I figured that it may also apply to the 980X.
I run my QPI link around 7.2ghz with no problems at all. I have stability issues around 7.4ghz.
Should be fine, I run up to as high as the board will allow (~8000)
Thanks Zonso and CryptiK, once I decide on what new BIOS I am going to stick with I am going to give 72XX a try.
Did put with 096 Bios 1 & 0003 for Bios 2Quote:
Originally Posted by idahosurge
Thanks all for this thread, so many info
Just got a R3E no long ago too, testing it for comparison with my Xpower
100GFlops at 4.6GHz *FLEX*
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...m-100gflop.jpg
BIOS 1401 is out:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/LG...-ASUS-1401.zip
Don't know what's been changed.
Gotta love Asus and their detailed release notes :rolleyes:
Here's to hoping for a bios that has updated raid firmware and tRL control...
On the Asus forum, the changelog will
- Support new CPUs
:confused:
Intel's new Gufltown 980 :)
Guys want to say bye bye, selling my Whole setup... Tired of Windows and bios, driver, compatability, norton, and you name it :banana::banana::banana::banana:.. Im moving to the light, away from the Darkside.
Take care
You underestimate the power of the Dark Side. :lsfight:
any1 tested new bios allready?
u know the dark side have cookies Attachment 117119Quote:
Originally Posted by AceBaran
Enjoy your Macbook air Ace, does it come with a free snob pack or do you have to purchase that now? ;)
New BIOS will probably be exactly the same as the old one, but support the new CPU from intel. No new BIOS will suddenly allow 300 BCLK, DDR3-3000 or QPI datal link rate of 9000. It is how it is, which is how it's always been.
The difference between 1301 and 0003 is DDR3-0 and DDR3-2166... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Went ahead and jumped my QPI Link Data Rate up to 7233 in my 1301 BIOS today. Ran two runs of SuperPI @ 32M and one run of OCCT CPU Auto test. So far no stability problems.
install 600g v-raptors on the intel conrtoller or the marvell? this is going to be raid0 setup
i have 2 150's v-raptors on the intel controller now Thanks
I look at it this way, at least we are still getting new bios releases. But I do agree, they should have listed what new CPU's are now supported, lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
SkOrPn
There should be no problems at all. I ran QPI at 7370 (167.5x22x2) for different CPU clocks, days at a time with no need to increase vIOH.Quote:
Originally Posted by idahosurge
Thy did. ;) Just check CPU Support List at R3E page and you'll see i7-980 supported since 1401.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkOrPn
for some reason i can only get my gtx 580 to run at 8x, i have tried all the pcie slot with the same problem. any ideas?
http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/11/07/04/838.png
Have you checked that the PCIE stays at 8x during load as well? I faintly remember that my old GTX 480 would drop down the PCIE to 1.x during idle. Results appear to vary depending on mobo BIOS and video driver version.
Otherwise, I can only suggest the obvious trial and error. Reset CMOS, flash new mobo BIOS, try video card on another mobo that's verified to work properly, try another PCIE 2.x video card on current mobo.
@ gotendbz1, what pci-express slot are you using?
yea killer_k, i'm a idiot, i thought i tried all the slots. it seems that only slots 1-3 are 16x 2-4 are only 8x. changed to slot 3 and problem is now fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by KILLER_K
this happens to me when i was using an old card on slot 3, while a 580 was running on slot 1, once i've pulled out that 8600GS the pci speed went back to x16Quote:
Originally Posted by gotendbz1
Does anyone have a issue with the bios displaying the ICH PCIe 1.5v? option is there to change it, but there is no value read out near it like the IOH PCIe 1.5v.
Never did that before, only started doing it.
Very weird problem.
Double post sorry.
I don't think ICH PCIe is readable. Mine doesn't display either, and HWMonitor displays the CPU PLL voltage where it says ICH PCIe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanousie
Funny thing is, it displayed before as 1.51v right near the changeable field, i then upgraded my psu from a seasonic 700watt to a ax850 and now the value is gone? lols beats the crap outa me, system is stable thats all that matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoson
The only thing i can think off is, with the seasonic i had the 12v 4pin plugged in and the EPS12 8pin, but with the ax850 its only the EPS12v.
I think you're mistaken... Neither of my two R3E's have ever shown this voltage on any BIOS. I have both 8pin's connected, and for awhile had one of the EZ_PLUGS also connected. If you look in the voltage monitor, it is not listed either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanousie
Go ahead and google reviews that have bios screenshots like this one:
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi..._extreme/5.htm
None of them ever show a voltage for ICH PCIe.