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Originally Posted by zsamz_
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i prefeer to say asusuX instead :rofl::ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
u r afraid of gigabyte i assume you will put that low vid on an AsusuX mobo right zsamz_ :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
with love of course zsamz lol
that i've been doing on my giga board for a year on my low vid chip :DQuote:
Originally Posted by LostHawk
well i gave the gigabut ud3r to my kidQuote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
i gonna see how high it can go then kids gets the q9650 for xmass
if you tried the rampage extreme you would kiss its bigbut
now say "gigabut" or "jigabut" 10 times
:rofl::rofl::rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
I prefer 'Arseus' :D
:rofl: ASSus wouldn't be better :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by In-Fluence
Mine is the UK spelling :rofl:
HI, I am old and new and n00b and I come back :D:D from reading to posting
Past 6 months I watched and reading ;);) and I learned a lot from you, (especially from NapalmV5, andressergio, Jor3lBR, SNiiPE_DoGG, radaja...)
and now the time has come to post something:
I think my processor is not as good as yours but
- 1,2875 vid
- DQ6 has huge vdroop (at high FSB --> 0,10-0,12V)
- F12 bios
- boot in windows with 4,50 GHz
- anything above 520-525 FSB --> freeze or restart system
- stable at 4,00 GHz (445 FSB) for now
Here are some results:
max CPU-Z
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/807231.png
SuperPi
http://www.imagesforme.com/thumb/thumb_ad720a5d.jpg
wPrime
http://www.imagesforme.com/thumb/thumb_27291308.jpg
3Dmark06
http://www.imagesforme.com/thumb/thumb_34a88823.jpg
24/7 for now
http://www.imagesforme.com/thumb/thumb_023a5936.jpg
PS.
Sorry for bad english (google translate do miracles)
:toast:
Im starting getting bored with my grunny sexy ARSLUS... Im thinking to go for 10 teenie gigaBUTTS too
:rofl::rofl:
cheers:toast:
@greg , for 450fsb the RF how much MCH needs? (with x38-dq6 , 450fsb/1200ram8gb , needs max vmch-1.625 for questionable stability... , for 445/1187, just 5 mhz only lower.. is 9hrs linx stable with 1.525)
Damn, it sucks seeing you people with gigabyte boards pushing the hell out of these things. It's a pain to reach 4.25ghz even with my MIIF, although doable. It's not worth it to upgrade for a 250mhz increase in clocks for 24/7, although it would be very nice to bench at 4.75ghz+ Ah well, 775 is getting old. Shouldn't waste more money it I guess. I'll upgrade to I7 once I get some spare money laying around :p:
E-mil,very nice clocks and results.it takes work
to get results like your,so i know you've done the work.
jor told me the same thing once, "read up and test
like crazy to find out what your particular cpu/MB/ram
combo likes and needs".great job:up:
and pos board can do 4.25 with a q9650 lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Musho
but its 500fsb thingy most cant handle;)
GUYS, how much nbv needs someone with X38-DQ6 @ 450fsb + 1200 8gb ramQuote:
Originally Posted by papatsonis
Ihave a friend with maximus formula X38 and he needs crazy nbvolts to run his system stable @ much lower clocks - something like 1.69-1.73. But the thing is that he runs his system with these crazy volts for over 2 years now.
My guess is that you can safely run with up to 1.70nbv IF you can keep nb cool.
you dreaming if you think to see a x38-dq6 runnin 4 stix @ that speedQuote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
i couldnt get mine past 850:ROTF: with 4 stix of d9 nevermind 2 gb stix
1.7vis fine as long as temps are good
i was thankfull the pos d6q died after a few weeks:)
@ Papatsonis. Your way too lucky you can run vmch-1.625 @ 445/1187 with 8gb:shocked: and your X38-DQ6Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
no man.. its not dreaming... right now i have finished stability tests(9hrs Linx64 - 7200mb) for 445 fsb/1.2vtt , and 8gb gskill 8800pi@ 1187 PL6 with 1.525 VMCH , just the chipset scales heavily non linear.. and for 450 fsb i need 1.625 VMCH (havent test all possible gtlref settings for 450 though)
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Originally Posted by zsamz_
Right now im running my x48 grunny @ 500x9 @ 1200 and i need 1.77nbv to achieve crysis wars stability:shocked::shocked:
If i remember well 450@4050@1200pl6 needs something like 1.40 but... i cant go back and try it because it goes only up now (my grunny):rofl::rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by papatsonis
most common gtlref are 0.62(works for me)-0.63 cpu and 0.67 nb for our x38-x48Quote:
Originally Posted by papatsonis
forgot to tell , with Turbo mode, not Extreme (for extreme need ~0.1+ volt additional the x38) , extreme saves about 2.5ms in latency and give a small boost in read , but doesn't worth the heat...
1.65 is alot of juiceQuote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
Nice sticks you have there:) Mine g.skill 1200 pi cant do much higher than 1240:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by papatsonis
neither mine (pi 8800) can go above 1220-1230 , till there are stable with minimum voltage from dq6 (1.89) but almost dont scale at all, had tried till 2.05 and saw increasing errors after 1.98v
Thats gooood - for you - i paid probably the double for pi 9600 :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by papatsonis
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Originally Posted by Slag
it seems they have identical behavior (at least @4ghz.. 1.216 here ;) )
I haven't tried to find vcore needed for 4GHz, but for 466x9=4.194GHz I need 1.25v, and for 480x9=4.32GHz, 1.3125v is needed. My vid is 1.2v but vcore needed is likely to be very similar judging by the way it scales. I'll have a stab later, just busy getting 4.4GHz stable with just 1.35v :cool:
Guys, today I removed my CPU and I noticed 2 pads on the CPU didn't have any pin marks, is that normal? I was getting some slow downs in prime95 so maybe that's related?
I marked them on this picture, they are the 14th and 15th pads from the right? what does these 2 pads are responsible for?
http://i47.tinypic.com/sgqpea.jpg
Small update :)
wPrime @ 4662 MHz (validation)
http://www.imagesforme.com/thumb/thumb_eb8328ba.jpg
^memory time sucks.
Yes, it really seems they have identical behavior! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by papatsonis
I'm running it now @ 4Ghz with 4GB (2x2) of OCZ PC2 8500 Platinum Edition @ 1:1 (DDR2 891) with:
- timings 4-4-4-12,
- strap 333/667,
- Performance Level 7
with only 1.21VCore, 1.20VTT, 1.40V on MCH and 1.85V on DRAM.
Everest cache and memory benchmark average marks in these values:
- Read: 9045 MB/s
- Write: 9465 MB/s
- Copy: 8520 MB/s
- Latency: 55.0 ns
I've done accurate fine tuning on GTL+ and memory timings to gain stability with these low voltages and i think that i'll be able to handle this overclock even on summer... :up:
DFI boards are so tricky to be fine tuned but when you have time and persistence it's a satisfactory goal! :yepp:
Bye
nice!! awesome vMCH , ONLY 1.41!!!, either my X38 chipset , or the DQ6, cant do these speeds at such low voltage , or i miss some magical setting :/ , my stable are 445/1187 PL6 with 1.525 vMCH :/ , ive done extensive testing on all possible GTL adjustments (in fact only GTLRef 1 , cause the oher GTL except normal, refuses to boot)with no practical gain :( . Relaxing PL, didnt bring any substancial gain (perhaps, 0.025 vmch less - so no point) , tried to relax the x38, testing with 4gb ram only, neither that worked..
my q9650 is at 4.095Ghz - 455*9 @ 1.25v - ive got an asus p5q deluxe and 2*2gb corsair dominator 1066 ram - my cpu is 20 loops minx stable and 6hours p95 stable with cpu at 4.095 and ram at 1092mhz - all voltages have obviosly been increased...
for some reason when i got over 455 even by 1mhz it becomes unstable in games BSOD's on me an restarts my pc when running linx!!!! what u recon i need to increase to get it stable at 460mhz???
vcore - 1.256v gtl refs 0.660 + 0.660
cpu pll - 1.56v
vtt - 1.26v
vram - 2.14v
vNb - 1.24v
any help guys??
cheers
Since a lot of you are pushing your Q9650's for quite awhile now, what's the voltage you guys have been able to use consistently without getting overclock degradation? (on air).
Has anyone used something like 1.45v over long periods of time?
me...almost a year at 1,392 cpuz...benched for months on 1,56 high VTT and PLL...still passes same tests...Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
cheers
Sergio
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Originally Posted by Falkentyne
Low temps (everywhere - cpu, nb, mosfets etc.) is the key.
+1 for that :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by greg.m
I would trying raising the NB some first, but you may need some more vcore also. Are those gtls listed cpu and nb or just cpu, at those speeds I ran mine at 0.635 for both cpu gtls and auto for nb gtl.Quote:
Originally Posted by grishenko45
i changed my cpu gtl refs to 0.660 for both the 1/3 and 2/4 values - nb gtl is on auto - im not sure what to do with that. i found with these cpu gtl refs i got more Gflops after running Linx:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss331
my nb is at 1.24 - and seems to be stable - i didnt want to raise it that much as its cooled with stock p5q deluxe heatsink and a fan at the side.
u recon then for an fsb of 460mhz - raise cpu from 1.275(BIOS) to about 1.285v? and nb to 1.26 - 1.28? the cpu pll is at 1.54 - i know that a high pll will kill a cpu so its ok at 1.54v - how high will it be ok to go? cpu is liquid cooled BTW.
For those speeds mine worked best at 0.635 for both cpu gtls, as I went higher (480s) the higher gtls worked better up to 0.655 for both. Auto on the NB gtl worked fine for me up to about ~470fsb than I set it to 0.665. 1.24NB is not alot especially with a fan on the heatsink and 1.54 pll is also fine. What vid is this chip?
i think my VID is 1.1725v.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss331
i thought the cpu gtl was 2/3 of the vFSB/VTT?? so 2/3 of 1.26 is 0.840 = 0.660*1.26 = 0.8316.
is this completely wrong???? or do you just have to mess around with the gtl refs???
or do you set lower gtl refs for lower fsb (start on 0.635) then go higher to like 0.670 with a higher fsb?
help on this please!!
Ok here's mine at 7+ hours stable, doesn't seem to like voltage, any advice on where to go from here would be appreciated.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8939/spec2o.png
Edit: just re did 1280k with PLL 1.55v and pass, take it from there.
0.635 is usually a good starting point with these chips at low to moderate fsb and may need a little more as fsb goes up. Every setup is a little different so you need to find out what yours likes best. Try this 456fsb with 1.2625vc, 1.54pll, 1.26vtt, 1.28nb, both cpu gtls at 0.635 and nb gtl on auto. Also do you know for sure if your ram will run stably up to 1100+? Have you tried dropping down to 1:1?Quote:
Originally Posted by grishenko45
q9550, with VID 1.265..........:p:
MAX on TRUX
4.48 GH :)
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=856772
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Originally Posted by E-mil
I know it's sucks, but time (8,219 s) is good :yepp::yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by 1nvisible
nice core speed Gaul :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaul
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Originally Posted by E-mil
THANX, anyway u still better :up:
i'll try my ram at 1:1 - but i wanted that OC'd too. I've read a couple of reviews - this ram need volts to OC even 20Mhz over stock - i was aiming for 1100Mhz @ 2.2v (stock 1066@2.1v)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss331
I'll try 1:1 and those BIOS setting this weekend when I get time!!
Cheers Hoss
Was able to squeeze a little more out of it last night.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...ss281/4652.jpg
Very nice Hoss :clap: To stabilize the Quad's above 4600Mhz takes a LOT of patience and skills. Welcome to Q9650@4650+Mhz stable club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss331
Thanks and good luck with your ln2 benching. :up:
Hoss331 - i tried my ram on the divider below - so they ran at 931mhz or something with fsb at 458 - cpu@ 4.124ghz - this was fine - only thing was - my linx Gflops output was far less because my ram was like nearly 130mhz slower per stick.!! so i recon i'll loosen some timings to get them running at 1100mhz.
Good to see the Q9650 thread still going strong! Makes me miss my old chip.... sure did run a whole hell of a lot cooler than this 860.....>.<
Far less being what?Quote:
Originally Posted by grishenko45
and it will be on and on mate you'll see :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by bt_medic04
i love this platform sooo much so stable
at least one more year, if you ask me :yepp::yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
I just started
yeah ! i will restart soon on another batch :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by E-mil
andressergio,which batch did you get?
did you get an even lower vid chip?
if you do not know where tu put the old one, send it to me :D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by andressergio