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09-26-2007, 03:21 AM
hornet

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnottis

Im using F6a, no problems. First boot it tried mem @ 1333 haha. Had to reset it again, came up at stock, re-oc'd and it's been fine since.

Does anyone have a working pencil vdroop mod for the DS3R? And by working I mean one other than that asshat Shimano's which doesn't even friggin' work....

Link for download of the F6a.:)
09-26-2007, 03:25 AM
Delta9b

Here is what i was talking about with the new F6a BIOS

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/3637/dscf1184ny7.jpg
09-26-2007, 03:29 AM
Delta9b

Quote:

Originally Posted by hornet

Link for download of the F6a.:)

It is posted a few pages back, if you can't find it send me your e-mail and i will mail it to you.
09-26-2007, 03:39 AM
hornet

But that bios is not for the P35-DQ6.
09-26-2007, 04:28 AM
Delta9b

no its for the DS3R, sorry cant help you with the DQ6 BIOS
09-26-2007, 06:06 AM
dnottis

Quote:

Originally Posted by hornet

But that bios is not for the P35-DQ6.

F6a is for DS3R..

http://station-drivers.com/page/giga...a-p35t-dq6.htm

F4 is the latest for yours.
09-26-2007, 06:40 AM
dnottis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plywood99

Excepting the remark at Shammi, I would like to know a working vdroop mod also. Just got this board and it seems nice, but the droops is the poops, so to speak. Tried Shammi's pencil mod but all it did was lower vcore! aka I set vcore in bios to 1.45. Cpuz reads 1.392 which drops to 1.36 under load. With pencil mod it drops to 1.32 under load. Horrible...

Ply

Samething here. I got less vcore and more vdroop with his mod.

The reason for the shot at Shimano is that he puts pencil mods in all his reviews - UNTESTED!? So this asshat is giving people information that could knowingly destroy your PC. Anyone that stupid deserves to be called an Asshat. LeStat and I have called him on this but he refuses to answer replies, PMs. Basically he's a coward... posts some BS then won't man up when he's wrong - which is basically...everytime....lesson learned - Shamino doesn't know what the hell he's doing when he gives pencil mods out. Just untested guesses.
09-26-2007, 06:48 AM
dazboots

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta9b

Dazboots, hit ctrl + f1 at the MAIN BIOS screen, then go into M.I.T and all the timings will be there

thx again u have been a great help ;)
09-26-2007, 06:58 AM
Richard Dower

Guys, Realtek have some brand new drivers for the onboard 8111B Lan chip...too tired to provide link.

:-)
09-26-2007, 08:06 AM
RPGWiZaRD

Quote:

Here is what i was talking about with the new F6a BIOS

Looks pretty much same as with F5F, but yea u can't manually specify the straps and I'm talking about the FSB strap myself which changes from 1066 to 800MHz for me at 500MHz FSB, dunno if that's what you're talking about though. Would be nice being able to have it at 1066 while at 500MHz+
09-26-2007, 10:05 AM
Delta9b

Would be awesome if we could choose the FSB straps
09-26-2007, 11:06 AM
swaaye

I wonder if the strap setting is what causes certain memory multipliers to just plain not work at various clocks while others do.... pretty likely.
09-26-2007, 12:24 PM
RPGWiZaRD

Quote:

Originally Posted by swaaye

I wonder if the strap setting is what causes certain memory multipliers to just plain not work at various clocks while others do.... pretty likely.

Yeh I wonder the same as I'd wanna get the mobo to even boot with x1.25 / 5:4 ram divider. :( This kit is rock stable at 8x469 with x1.2 / 5:6 divider ie 562.8MHz at 2.2v with very tight subtimings too but upping vdimm, fsb and vmch voltages doesn't do anything, doesn't boot with that divider and I'm sure the RAM should handle 586MHz too...
09-26-2007, 01:11 PM
Plywood99

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnottis

Samething here. I got less vcore and more vdroop with his mod.

The reason for the shot at Shimano is that he puts pencil mods in all his reviews - UNTESTED!? So this asshat is giving people information that could knowingly destroy your PC. Anyone that stupid deserves to be called an Asshat. LeStat and I have called him on this but he refuses to answer replies, PMs. Basically he's a coward... posts some BS then won't man up when he's wrong - which is basically...everytime....lesson learned - Shamino doesn't know what the hell he's doing when he gives pencil mods out. Just untested guesses.

Lol, ouch. I must say though that the pencil mod for this mobo most assuredly does not work.

I did finally manage to get it stable at 3.45ghz, vdroop is definitely holding back higher clocks. That and the stupid jump from 1.6-1.8-2.0vcore. What was Gigabyte thinking?

But the real killer was getting the timings for my 4gigs of G.skill PK dialed in. Took the longest to find stable timings. Finally tried the ones G.skill recommended for the p965 ds3 and they are working great staying around 800mhz. They did 1100 on my Amd board so should have some room to increase them...

Ply
09-26-2007, 01:36 PM
Mickey Padge

Gigabyte P35-DQ6 F6 BIOS is listed here:

http://tw.giga-byte.com/Support/Moth...ProductID=2532

Cheers :D
09-26-2007, 04:28 PM
hlonipha

Quote:

Originally Posted by rge

System freezes or orthos fails?

Either way it is not stable on orthos, try going up a notch or two in vcore or temporarily loosening memory main timings or secondary timings. (or drop multiplier to 8x and if runs OK, then rules out memory).

I have same setup and overclock but watercooled, when I increased to 3.9, I recently had to increase my pcie to +0.1V and to 107 to keep stable (was using +.05 and 105 at 3.83). I have my mch and FSB to normal, but you could try upping those first notch or two, all boards can be little different.

I bumped the ram volts, no freeze while orthos but hard reboot

settings +.40ram +.10vpcie +.20fsb +.050mch pcie 115mhz vcore 1.50v
09-26-2007, 04:42 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by hlonipha

I bumped the ram volts, no freeze while orthos but hard reboot

settings +.40ram +.10vpcie +.20fsb +.050mch pcie 115mhz vcore 1.50v

whats actual volts @+4
09-26-2007, 05:05 PM
theRedDwarf

[QUOTE=Delta9b;2452929]Has anyone tried the F6a BIOS?
I flashed to it the other day, in the memory divider section there is the option to choose which straps you want to use with the memory divider ie 800, 1066, 1333 not all have the option though, im still waiting on my crucial ram to test it (my current ram wont do the option they give for the strap change) anyone had a chance to play with this yet?

QUOTE]

Thats exactly what the p35c-ds3r needs. Have a e6850 /2x1g crucial pc8500. Keeps jumping back and forth from 1066-800 strapping. got sick of clearing cmos to get the 1066 as ram is rated. presently at 3.6 (8x450). Had fsb at 510 on 1066 strapping , orthos stable 8+hrs and same memtest, rebooted to try lower vcore and didnt like, rebooted and back to 800 strapping. :mad: Vcore set 1.45 in bios actual 1.41 idle, 1.39 load.

system is stable, yet when i coldboot, often system hangs at OS load. have to reset anywhere from 2-4x befor it opens up. Often get a small error window saying Not For This Chipset! but everytime i see that is good news, because I know system wont hang. Also, seems like (all air cooled,Zalman 9700 cpu cooler) I hear fan rev up I know system will open windows no probs.
09-26-2007, 07:09 PM
zsamz_

[QUOTE=theRedDwarf;2455553]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta9b

Has anyone tried the F6a BIOS?
I flashed to it the other day, in the memory divider section there is the option to choose which straps you want to use with the memory divider ie 800, 1066, 1333 not all have the option though, im still waiting on my crucial ram to test it (my current ram wont do the option they give for the strap change) anyone had a chance to play with this yet?

QUOTE]

Thats exactly what the p35c-ds3r needs. Have a e6850 /2x1g crucial pc8500. Keeps jumping back and forth from 1066-800 strapping. got sick of clearing cmos to get the 1066 as ram is rated. presently at 3.6 (8x450). Had fsb at 510 on 1066 strapping , orthos stable 8+hrs and same memtest, rebooted to try lower vcore and didnt like, rebooted and back to 800 strapping. :mad: Vcore set 1.45 in bios actual 1.41 idle, 1.39 load.

system is stable, yet when i coldboot, often system hangs at OS load. have to reset anywhere from 2-4x befor it opens up. Often get a small error window saying Not For This Chipset! but everytime i see that is good news, because I know system wont hang. Also, seems like (all air cooled,Zalman 9700 cpu cooler) I hear fan rev up I know system will open windows no probs.

after much testing with mine
best results are 510-530fsb ramtimings 4-4-4-10 memory 1020-1060mhz
09-26-2007, 07:11 PM
rge

Quote:

Originally Posted by hlonipha

I bumped the ram volts, no freeze while orthos but hard reboot

settings +.40ram +.10vpcie +.20fsb +.050mch pcie 115mhz vcore 1.50v

I get hard reboots on orthos when I try for 4.0, no matter my settings. Highest I can do orthos stable is 9x442, but have to use 1.5 vcore, so staying at 3.9.

I would try multi at 8 first, if runs orthos, then you ruled out memory. Then FSB+0.1 and +0.1mch and maybe start at 3.87 get it stable and walk it up few mhz at time.

Also you could try setting performance on standard instead of turbo, or try downloading memset and decrease performance level to 11 from 7 just as test (F4 bios has performance level 11 and seemed to overclock easier, though with worse performance)
09-26-2007, 07:58 PM
hlonipha

Quote:

Originally Posted by rge

I get hard reboots on orthos when I try for 4.0, no matter my settings. Highest I can do orthos stable is 9x442, but have to use 1.5 vcore, so staying at 3.9.

I would try multi at 8 first, if runs orthos, then you ruled out memory. Then FSB+0.1 and +0.1mch and maybe start at 3.87 get it stable and walk it up few mhz at time.

Also you could try setting performance on standard instead of turbo, or try downloading memset and decrease performance level to 11 from 7 just as test (F4 bios has performance level 11 and seemed to overclock easier, though with worse performance)

ok will try that

Update: I lowered mhz to 3900mhz and increase MCH to +.100 and Orthos ran 4 hours and 30 minutes until core 0 failed. will go up on voltagea notch and see.

What are the starting volts before we apply more. it is said that ram is 1.80v but what about fsb and mch?
thanks
09-26-2007, 10:16 PM
v|aDy

Hi guys! When I check a actual volts with DMM on my new Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3, I was shcoked. When I set 1.45v on CPU in BIOS, on DMM i'd see 1.55 :eek: On memory +0.2 :confused: Maybe I used wrong measure point, but I dont know :shrug: Pls somebody check volts on your mobo... :up:
09-26-2007, 10:52 PM
RPGWiZaRD

Quote:

Originally Posted by v|aDy

Hi guys! When I check a actual volts with DMM on my new Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3, I was shcoked. When I set 1.45v on CPU in BIOS, on DMM i'd see 1.55 :eek: On memory +0.2 :confused: Maybe I used wrong measure point, but I dont know :shrug: Pls somebody check volts on your mobo... :up:

Wow that sounds scary if it also overvolts on CPU voltage but since my E6750 in a caseless setup seems hotter than I would have imagined at 1.55 bios setting which becomes 1.52v in windows (1.5v under load). It gets around 67~68C max in orthos but for a caseless setup and tuniq tower 120 it seems a bit more than I had thought especially since it's at like 48~50C at stock voltage. So I hope my mobo ain't actually using 1.65v or sth for the cpu, that would be kind of high for a 65nm cpu on air for 24/7 usage. :rolleyes:
09-26-2007, 11:22 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by v|aDy

Hi guys! When I check a actual volts with DMM on my new Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3, I was shcoked. When I set 1.45v on CPU in BIOS, on DMM i'd see 1.55 :eek: On memory +0.2 :confused: Maybe I used wrong measure point, but I dont know :shrug: Pls somebody check volts on your mobo... :up:

chek again
there is a vdroop
and memory might be overvolting
09-26-2007, 11:23 PM
Richard Dower

Realtek 889A codec drivers, V 1.78:

http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/...&GetDown=false

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