ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

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10-28-2006, 12:58 AM
Thomas Olivaux

Well, I don't need to overclock to have the second PCI-E 16x pb.

Well. Reset the BIOS, start the PC, go to set force the second PCI-E to 4x (fast) mode, start Windows : it works, it's 4x and CrossFire and/or SLI runs fine (without speaking of performances issues). Reboot the PC (or shut it off), start again, you are now in 1x mode (the BIOS says your in 4x, but it's in 1x for real) and CF and/or SLI do not work anymore. Reset the BIOS, you can try at 4x one more time...

Reseting each time to have the second PEG port running in 4x, I call this a bug. I have a friend working at Asus who see the same pb, he reported yesterday to Taipai engeneers, let's wait for a BIOS.

See you,

Thomas
10-28-2006, 01:00 AM
Thomas Olivaux

And I agree with you, no need of high MCH voltages until crazy FSB. My P5B dx currently runs at 440 FSB with all "auto" settings (except for CPU and memory).

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Tom
10-28-2006, 01:02 AM
IluvIntel

0711 is the latest bios on Asustek support website in english language
10-28-2006, 01:08 AM
Thomas Olivaux

Yes, 0711 is the latest official BIOS. 0804 is the latest devel BIOS. Those kind of BIOS are not available for masses until there are enought modifications on it (and working modifications).

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Tom
10-28-2006, 01:15 AM
Millyons

with all voltages at AUTO except for vcore and vdimm i also have the PCI-E @ X1 problem,

this "solves" it for me

check with cpuz if its ok, if not then turn of the pc, then turn off the psu or unplug the cable, hit the power switch few times, turn on the psu and boot normal.....till now every time i tried that it was at X16 when i come back into win
10-28-2006, 01:16 AM
Thomas Olivaux

Are we speaking of the same pb ? My first PCI-E slot, the real 16x one, is always working in 16x mode ! I'm speaking about the second one, controlled via the southbridge.

Modos : maybe I'm not in the right place, I saw a P5B DX pb thread too...

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Tom
10-28-2006, 03:10 AM
Millyons

im talking about the first one the "real" one
10-28-2006, 05:33 AM
pocket.demon

Have you tried the 0804 bios? With it temperature rise 3-4 degrees. Why?

But with this bios I am able to rise the memory voltage higher than 2.15v

http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/P5BDLX/P...eluxe-0804.rar
10-28-2006, 06:17 AM
Ace-a-Rue

i have the same ram (don't know about revision) and it post right out of the gate.

i would get a 20 to 24 pin PSU adapter to see if that is holding you back....that would be my suspicion.

what video card are you using?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew_A

Hey there :)

I picked up the P5b Deluxe Wifi + Conroe 6400 + Corsair Twin2x2048 6400-C4 Kit few hours ago.. assembled everything, plugging in the 20pin connector (I don't have the 24pin connector on my enermax), pluggin in the +12V 2x2 Plug, boot and - no post...

the corsair are for 2.1V specified, rev 2.1... I think i'll have to borrow a pair of 1.9V chips from a friend of mine...

Are there any other chances to get the 2.1v sticks to boot? because i don't think he's that happy with the whole "hey, i'm putting your sticks in my computer and give them +0.2V extra voltage"... And i'm not happy with putting them into the freezer. Does a newer bios adress this problem? It just says "improved memory compatiblity"...

Thanks!
10-28-2006, 06:29 AM
tam2

Hi all, cool thread that u guys have here. Hope u guys can help me optimize my settings.

ok, first of all, here's my BUDGET setup:
E6300 step 6, rev b2
2x512mb patriot mem ddr667
pixelview 7600GT
400w of psu from silverstone

my results:
7x470 with 1.5 vcore, 2.25 vdimm, 1.45 VNB, 1.55 V Term, and settings from the mem section in bios from top to bottom : 4-5-5-12-4-35- disabled

questions:
1. i know the mem probably has already reached its limit, but when i tested it with 333 cpu fsb and 999 mem fsb (other divider wouldnt work - didnt pass SPI 32M), it works fine (tested it only with spi 32M and 3dmark2k5 though). And actually i can still reach 480 fsb, but it took much looser timings and lots of volts. I dont know why, but my mem sticks will only work problem free with 2.25V, no more or less than 2.25!! Even if i loosen the timings (still @470) with the exact same settings above (volts, freq etc.). Now the question is, if i use higher mem sticks, lets just say pc 8000 sticks, am i will be able to reach 500?

2. Has anyone who had onboard sound problems already found the real solutions to make the scratching and popping sound gone forever? i found that when im using that DTS driver from asus cd, no matter what i do, i cant get rid of that annoying sound. Already tried to put a check mark in the DTS dialogue box that says "Small Speakers", installed new sound drivers from asus site, installed ms hotfix from asus cd, and those didnt help at all. BUT, when i use the non DTS driver that was also in the asus CD, its almost gone completely, but not all (still sounds annoying in few games). All i did is to click a tiny button in the soundmax dialogue box that says "default audio settings" and then raise the volume ONLY from the master slider, NOT from the wave slider

looking forward to ur help guys

-tam2-
10-28-2006, 06:32 AM
Ace-a-Rue

it has to be a video card problem....i've put a 16x card into in the primary video slot and an Areca 8x Raid card in the 2nd PCIe slot...the 8x card worked at rated 4x speed...i know the card would not work at 1x speed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Olivaux

Well, I don't need to overclock to have the second PCI-E 16x pb.

Well. Reset the BIOS, start the PC, go to set force the second PCI-E to 4x (fast) mode, start Windows : it works, it's 4x and CrossFire and/or SLI runs fine (without speaking of performances issues). Reboot the PC (or shut it off), start again, you are now in 1x mode (the BIOS says your in 4x, but it's in 1x for real) and CF and/or SLI do not work anymore. Reset the BIOS, you can try at 4x one more time...

Reseting each time to have the second PEG port running in 4x, I call this a bug. I have a friend working at Asus who see the same pb, he reported yesterday to Taipai engeneers, let's wait for a BIOS.

See you,

Thomas
10-28-2006, 06:37 AM
Andrew_A

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

i have the same ram (don't know about revision) and it post right out of the gate.

i would get a 20 to 24 pin PSU adapter to see if that is holding you back....that would be my suspicion.

what video card are you using?

gfx card is a x1900xt. i had a 620W Enermax Liberty (with the 24 pin connector) but it went down in flames... and when i say flames i mean flames and not just smoke.

Friend of mine (the non OC guy) has the same power supply, i'll give it a try tomorrow.

The point is:

The x1900xt is definitly working (tested it in the other guys pc). But when i turn on the PC i hear the fans start AND i see the "num" light on the keyboard! I can even hit CTRL ALT DEL and the system goes down and restarts...

So i'm thinking, that the Power supply is involved somehow too...

i'll have results in 24 hours, thanks for your great help :)

Andrew
10-28-2006, 07:12 AM
HeadShotWI

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shootist

Set the JMicro to IDE, the JMicro controller is for the IDE connector and the other 2 SATA connectors. Set the SATA config to IDE (If your not going to do RAID there is no need to set it to RAID or to AHCI. Actually I've found AHCI mode to be slower then IDE mode). Connect the drive you are going to use as the BOOT drive to SATA 1. The other 2 drives can be connected to either the other red or black SATA connectors. IYRTM you would of seen the red ports are master ports and the black ports are the slave port. Although it really doesn't matter which ports you us other then for the BOOT drive. Yes you will need to use the F6 key and load the Intel drivers during the OS load.

Which intel drivers? I checked asus website and I found jmicron drivers, some weird storage manager drivers, lan drivers, and audio drivers. I didn't even see chipset drivers. I you talking about the IMSM drivers and the make floppy utility?

I have 2 sata hard drives. One for boot and the other for storage and backups. Then I have 2 IDE dvd burners going on the ide port.
10-28-2006, 07:12 AM
Ace-a-Rue

does that video card need a special power plug to make it work?...if so, your older PSU may not have enough juice to make it work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew_A

gfx card is a x1900xt. i had a 620W Enermax Liberty (with the 24 pin connector) but it went down in flames... and when i say flames i mean flames and not just smoke.

Friend of mine (the non OC guy) has the same power supply, i'll give it a try tomorrow.

The point is:

The x1900xt is definitly working (tested it in the other guys pc). But when i turn on the PC i hear the fans start AND i see the "num" light on the keyboard! I can even hit CTRL ALT DEL and the system goes down and restarts...

So i'm thinking, that the Power supply is involved somehow too...

i'll have results in 24 hours, thanks for your great help :)

Andrew
10-28-2006, 07:49 AM
Kakulukia

Quote:

Originally Posted by tam2

Hi all, cool thread that u guys have here. Hope u guys can help me optimize my settings.

ok, first of all, here's my BUDGET setup:
E6300 step 6, rev b2
2x512mb patriot mem ddr667
pixelview 7600GT
400w of psu from silverstone

my results:
7x470 with 1.5 vcore, 2.25 vdimm, 1.45 VNB, 1.55 V Term, and settings from the mem section in bios from top to bottom : 4-5-5-12-4-35- disabled

questions:
1. i know the mem probably has already reached its limit, but when i tested it with 333 cpu fsb and 999 mem fsb (other divider wouldnt work - didnt pass SPI 32M), it works fine (tested it only with spi 32M and 3dmark2k5 though). And actually i can still reach 480 fsb, but it took much looser timings and lots of volts. I dont know why, but my mem sticks will only work problem free with 2.25V, no more or less than 2.25!! Even if i loosen the timings (still @470) with the exact same settings above (volts, freq etc.). Now the question is, if i use higher mem sticks, lets just say pc 8000 sticks, am i will be able to reach 500?

2. Has anyone who had onboard sound problems already found the real solutions to make the scratching and popping sound gone forever? i found that when im using that DTS driver from asus cd, no matter what i do, i cant get rid of that annoying sound. Already tried to put a check mark in the DTS dialogue box that says "Small Speakers", installed new sound drivers from asus site, installed ms hotfix from asus cd, and those didnt help at all. BUT, when i use the non DTS driver that was also in the asus CD, its almost gone completely, but not all (still sounds annoying in few games). All i did is to click a tiny button in the soundmax dialogue box that says "default audio settings" and then raise the volume ONLY from the master slider, NOT from the wave slider

looking forward to ur help guys

-tam2-

-Just use 5-5-5 and high voltage, those tight timings are useless. It may also be the limit.

-I think I have the same sound problems. Do u mean those ''gggggggggggg'' when the sound goes from low volume to high volume. Especially in BF2 and BF2142 with the artillery strike (and in tank).
Actually, I thought that this was because of my old speakers. My solution is , lower the volume a bit. You can still hear it, but not too much.

*I have the soundmax driver from asus, last one .4570 .

Should i enable DTS?
10-28-2006, 08:19 AM
swiftex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Millyons

with all voltages at AUTO except for vcore and vdimm i also have the PCI-E @ X1 problem,

this "solves" it for me

check with cpuz if its ok, if not then turn of the pc, then turn off the psu or unplug the cable, hit the power switch few times, turn on the psu and boot normal.....till now every time i tried that it was at X16 when i come back into win

my experience has been that this works all the time as well
10-28-2006, 08:22 AM
swiftex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shootist

Set the JMicro to IDE, the JMicro controller is for the IDE connector and the other 2 SATA connectors. Set the SATA config to IDE (If your not going to do RAID there is no need to set it to RAID or to AHCI. Actually I've found AHCI mode to be slower then IDE mode). Connect the drive you are going to use as the BOOT drive to SATA 1. The other 2 drives can be connected to either the other red or black SATA connectors. IYRTM you would of seen the red ports are master ports and the black ports are the slave port. Although it really doesn't matter which ports you us other then for the BOOT drive. Yes you will need to use the F6 key and load the Intel drivers during the OS load.

i concur this works (intel and jmicron drivers for "f6" install) otherwise unecessary nightmares
10-28-2006, 08:37 AM
Kakulukia

I have only installed Intel RAID in F6, Jmicron isnt necessary if u dont use raid on jmicron controller.

Who else is having problems with the onboard sound?
10-28-2006, 08:37 AM
Andrew_A

The "older" psu is a 550W Enermax... think that should do the job.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

does that video card need a special power plug to make it work?...if so, your older PSU may not have enough juice to make it work.
10-28-2006, 08:38 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kakulukia

Who else is having problems with the onboard sound?

sound is really :banana::banana::banana::banana: on these motherboards hey?

what sort of probs are you having
10-28-2006, 08:57 AM
Thomas Olivaux

Personnaly, I have no pb at all with the first PEG slot, the real 16X one. Only with the second 1 or 4x one. Maybe it's only a pb with a graphic card in it. Currently, I have two Asus 7950GT on this mobo, but it was the same pb with two Sapphire X1600 Pro.

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Tom
10-28-2006, 09:03 AM
tam2

@Kakulukia

-Well, like i said, i tried many different timings and volt settings, but it'll just fail in SPI 32M. Example: i set 4-5-5-12@470 2.25V ==> works great, BUT 5-5-5-12 all the way to 18 at any voltage ==>wont go through more than 4th loop in SPI 32M, and i know that this is weird since looser timing means higher fsb. And this sticks still boot into windows @500 with 4:5 divider and CL 4, just cant make it stable. But i think ddr 940 with ddr 667 is pretty good dont u think?

-My onboard sound does this scratching sound almost every time when the bass or other low freq sounds come in. so its not good for R&B or house musics :( .Ive read people using various solutions to solve this, but it seem none works for everybody and thats just.....sucks, more like a hardware problem to me tho

-Can u show me your bios settings Kakulukia (volts, timings), since we achieved almost the same cpu overclock. Whats your highest stable fsb?

Thanks
-tam2-
10-28-2006, 09:06 AM
Shootist

Go to the Intel site and get the lastest drivers there. The ones on the Asus site are older.
Here's a link to them.
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...stems&lang=eng

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeadShotWI

Which intel drivers? I checked asus website and I found jmicron drivers, some weird storage manager drivers, lan drivers, and audio drivers. I didn't even see chipset drivers. I you talking about the IMSM drivers and the make floppy utility?

I have 2 sata hard drives. One for boot and the other for storage and backups. Then I have 2 IDE dvd burners going on the ide port.
10-28-2006, 09:38 AM
TaPaKaH

I don`t want to sound like a noob but I got a problem.

First of all - full system specs:

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Core2Duo E6400 week31 (good clocker)
Thermaltake Big Typhoon
ASUS P5B Deluxe (rev 1.03G , BIOS 0804) stock cooling (t-paste = ceramique by ArcticSilver)
2x512Mb Corsair 8000UL (fatbody D9 chips)
Galaxy 7300GT DDR3 (Zalman Edition) @ 625/850 (upper PCI-E x16 slot)
Maxtor 160GB SATA (6L160M0)
NEC ND-3540A
BlueStorm 500W (modded to pop out ~700W)

Experiencing some issues.
no matter what - I can not hit more than 427-430MHz on FSB.
Even tried freezing the mobo down with chilled acetone - result the same - like a wall @ 427-430MHz.

the best way to describe the settings in BIOS I use is of course - BIOS screens for maxFSB runs (for 24/7 I use other settings)

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I`m probably not the first one who asks :rolleyes: but still need help. Any advice is welcome.
10-28-2006, 09:54 AM
metalazzo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

it has to be a video card problem....i've put a 16x card into in the primary video slot and an Areca 8x Raid card in the 2nd PCIe slot...the 8x card worked at rated 4x speed...i know the card would not work at 1x speed.

it's not, in my case :/

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