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Plz remain polite at all times if ya want a bashing go outside and look for some trouble, not in here plz... Peeps have right to their opinions and not everyone reads all the threads inside out...Quote:
Originally Posted by aNoN_
Chill chill it's just a PCB with stuff on it, no need for this....
yeah cant wait for benches... how come the chinese web site hasnt leaked em yet? :}
I just ordered a 9800 GX2, but the 9900 GX2 will only have smaller die (55nm) and because of that higher clocks rite?
Try to cancel or not? (aww I just want to play games :()
CANCEL now !! there's more than just higher clock rates, more ram, better bandwith,... it will give better performance than ya current X2 for sure... and if it doesn't you can get an 9800X2 for cheap a few weeks from now... If it's the eVGA card you can still step up... but you will be without a GFX card for a few weeks for sure... (Step up works fab just you need to be patient)Quote:
Originally Posted by ctgilles
You chose the worst moment possible to buy a GFX card... CANCEL IT GO GO GO :up:
Yeah it's the eVGA. Going to try to cancel it :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
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Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides
I'm rockin a 9800GTX in AoC. I don't have the graphics max'ed, and I am only playing at 1680x1050. I see FPS drop under 30 a lot more than I would like.
Still, AoC needs more than 512mb of texture cache. It also needs 4gb of system ram to avoid stuttering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides
Moreover, the beta was dx9, the dx10 version has higher requirements.
I agree, even if it is an evga card, definitely cancle it because there's no guarantee on what's coming from both sides, who knows the 4870 might be on par with the 9800gx2 or perhaps the 4870x2 might have be oc'd to barely keep up with the gtx 260.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
I agree, bad timing on buying a gfx card, wait til the benchmarks come from both sides and then decide for yourself (although unless if the micro-stuttering issue is solved with the r700, even if it more powerful than the gtx 280 you may want to take the gtx over it)
Dought so. Even if the 9800GX2 is ouperformed by the GTX 260, the high production cost will prevent it from getting significatly cheaper. It has 1 GB RAM and 2 fully functional G92 GPUs; if it can't compete, it's production will cease.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
No, it actually only has 512mb of ram. This is the common misconception, but to make it short, due to the way sli works, both gpus need a dedicated 512mb of ram that has everything mirrored on each other, meaning you really only get 512mb that you use. The r700 is supposed to change this, but no one is sure yet whether or not that's true
besides, 9800gx2 is supposed to be EOL right now anyways, last rumors were saying once the gtx series is out nvidia will phase it out (probably quickly since it can use the g92s for the 9800gtx)
He was talking about production costs..................Quote:
Originally Posted by AliG
it still HAS 1024mb of ram on it, which costs money..
right production cost wise it has 1gb of ram, but you still only get to USE 512mb of is my point
Yep 1gb total RAM but only 512mb frame buffer (can be used at one time)Quote:
Originally Posted by AliG
I read that the whole r700 'shared memory pool' thing was disproven, but i guess nothing is official until it's out.
You're irrelevant point ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AliG
2 cards are not sharing 512MB, so with AFR each card effectively renders half the pixels on the screen - isnt that how it works?
which means that calc's for only half the pixels/output are utilising each 512 memory buffer, but i dont really know how it works, assuming AFR does work effectively in some apps.
the point being that if afr works properly, 512+512MB should be available, but i dont know what happens in real life gpu/buffer sharing with dual card loads. im guessing that some apps work well and others not at all, or badly.
Not really, in fact not at all, he was talking about what would happen if the 9800gx2 was outperformed by the gtx 260, and in terms of performance that makes a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by conzymaher
Doesn't matter, the framebuffer has to be mirrored on the memory, that's why people always say even though you have sli you really only have same amount of memory as your original card, and thus why people often with sli and xfire setups opt for the higher memory version even if they don't really need itQuote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
if this is true then it seems silly, and to have redundant mirrored information is also silly.Quote:
the framebuffer has to be mirrored on the memory
load sharing is how sli works; not load mirroring....but i guess the info has to be combined...where? all in one of the gcards memory buffers?
mmm a shared memory pool would be good.
i guess.
still woefully limited and expensive imo.
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
then it is woefully limited by redundant mirrored info.Quote:
No.
Go to school, get educated, and make a difference then. Its easy to complain about problems, its harder to fix them. ;) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
easier to sit back and watch others create the problems, rather than fix them.
even easier to be a fanboy...actually maybe not.
more memory.
haha i'll pretend to be a frame buffer and just be redundant :ROTF: half redundant anyway.
^^ :rofl: :ROTF: ^^
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** As said like Dr. Evil ** --> You can put frikin LAZERS on their heads!
Well the thing to remember is that these new cards are going to have 1gb of memory, aren't they? So although even with 2 GTX 280's in SLI you'll still 'only' have a 1gb frame buffer, but i'm thinking this should be enough to cope with Crysis @ high res, assuming the rest of the card can keep up :confused: