RD600 first look and general questions

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01-19-2007, 02:53 PM
marauder16

wow, seems many people has Cellshock memory around here, I have the same kit as raju and I hope I don't have same problems, what results did you get Alonso?
01-19-2007, 06:03 PM
Bluebeard

cruisin´ over 1000MHz ;)

switched to commando quickly to verify the cpu is capable of more fsb than the 460 i reached on RD
01-19-2007, 07:27 PM
pcmoddingmy

Quote:

Originally Posted by raju

My d9gkx is stuck around ddr1000 too, using cellshock, runs fine at stock cas 4, but oc'ing at higher cpu mhz limits ram to around ddr1000, for orthos blend that is. I will try my Crucial kit next, though that's a cas 3 kit that maxes out at around drr1000 anyway. I will see if it performs cas 3 better than the Cellshock though. Also I'm finding trc needs to be loose for orthos blend at higher cpu mhz, over 30 in fact. I am trying to toy with the preamp drive strengths now using 2t. There's so much to test on this board, finding the best overall performance point will certainly take a while...

regards
Raja

I think this board needs another type of tweaking for D9GKX, or maybe it dislikes D9GKX. I've just tested my OCZ PC2-8000 Ti Alpha VX2 2x1GB D9GMH kit and it does 500MHz at 4-4-4-12-2T w/o any errors. Swapped it out back for the HyperX PC2-9200 D9GKX and memtest errors out. So if the FlexXLC PC2-9200 were really based on D9GMH, it could be true that the RD600 has issues with D9GKX. I couldn't even get the HyperX PC2-9200 to run at spec.

However, I could run the HyperX PC2-9200 (single stick) at 577MHz and both stick passed memtest at 577MHz. Drop in both sticks and it errors out, at over 525MHz, no matter what timing I applied.
01-19-2007, 08:08 PM
Severance

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcmoddingmy

I think this board needs another type of tweaking for D9GKX, or maybe it dislikes D9GKX. I've just tested my OCZ PC2-8000 Ti Alpha VX2 2x1GB D9GMH kit and it does 500MHz at 4-4-4-12-2T w/o any errors. Swapped it out back for the HyperX PC2-9200 D9GKX and memtest errors out. So if the FlexXLC PC2-9200 were really based on D9GMH, it could be true that the RD600 has issues with D9GKX. I couldn't even get the HyperX PC2-9200 to run at spec.

However, I could run the HyperX PC2-9200 (single stick) at 577MHz and both stick passed memtest at 577MHz. Drop in both sticks and it errors out, at over 525MHz, no matter what timing I applied.

the flex xlc sticks are using the D9GMH chips. i have a set and have removed the water cooling blocks.
01-19-2007, 08:19 PM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcmoddingmy

I think this board needs another type of tweaking for D9GKX, or maybe it dislikes D9GKX. I've just tested my OCZ PC2-8000 Ti Alpha VX2 2x1GB D9GMH kit and it does 500MHz at 4-4-4-12-2T w/o any errors. Swapped it out back for the HyperX PC2-9200 D9GKX and memtest errors out. So if the FlexXLC PC2-9200 were really based on D9GMH, it could be true that the RD600 has issues with D9GKX. I couldn't even get the HyperX PC2-9200 to run at spec.

However, I could run the HyperX PC2-9200 (single stick) at 577MHz and both stick passed memtest at 577MHz. Drop in both sticks and it errors out, at over 525MHz, no matter what timing I applied.

which test does it error out in memtest and what's you're settings in bios ? you can use my bios template http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=3581 to provide the details :)
01-19-2007, 08:28 PM
tweakerxp

Anyone having trouble with their board freezing on warm reboots. My board has been perfectly stable so far, however, when I reboot, the system freezes, and I get a C1 error on the LED indicator. Any ideas?
01-19-2007, 09:29 PM
ccokeman

I get the C1 error if i push the mem to hard and end up going the one stick method for a restart. Some times i will need to use a ps2 keyboard and mouse just to get a post.
01-19-2007, 09:50 PM
tweakerxp

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccokeman

I get the C1 error if i push the mem to hard and end up going the one stick method for a restart. Some times i will need to use a ps2 keyboard and mouse just to get a post.

Hmm my RAM isn't OCd at all; I can't even seem to OC it at all without a C1. My KB is PS/2.. mouse is USB though, but I really don't think that should have anything to do with OCing. I'm pretty sure this warm boot thing is just a BIOS bug-Too bad DFI street is gone.
01-19-2007, 09:58 PM
XeRo

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweakerxp

Hmm my RAM isn't OCd at all; I can't even seem to OC it at all without a C1. My KB is PS/2.. mouse is USB though, but I really don't think that should have anything to do with OCing. I'm pretty sure this warm boot thing is just a BIOS bug-Too bad DFI street is gone.

http://global.dficlub.com/

Same thing as DFI Street.
01-19-2007, 10:54 PM
Raja@ASUS

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcmoddingmy

I think this board needs another type of tweaking for D9GKX, or maybe it dislikes D9GKX. I've just tested my OCZ PC2-8000 Ti Alpha VX2 2x1GB D9GMH kit and it does 500MHz at 4-4-4-12-2T w/o any errors. Swapped it out back for the HyperX PC2-9200 D9GKX and memtest errors out. So if the FlexXLC PC2-9200 were really based on D9GMH, it could be true that the RD600 has issues with D9GKX. I couldn't even get the HyperX PC2-9200 to run at spec.

However, I could run the HyperX PC2-9200 (single stick) at 577MHz and both stick passed memtest at 577MHz. Drop in both sticks and it errors out, at over 525MHz, no matter what timing I applied.

thx for the info, I am using my crucial ballistix 533 3-3-3-12 kit now, at ddr 700 1T as a starter. The D9GKX works fine at stock spec, though overclocked it does not seem to be able to hit cas 4 ddr1000 async..

Are you able to achieve better overclocked cpu/ram mhz with D9GMH in Orthos blend?

regards
Raja
01-20-2007, 02:34 AM
Raja@ASUS

I'm moving over to testing with OCCT for a while now..
01-20-2007, 03:00 AM
marauder16

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcmoddingmy

I think this board needs another type of tweaking for D9GKX, or maybe it dislikes D9GKX. I've just tested my OCZ PC2-8000 Ti Alpha VX2 2x1GB D9GMH kit and it does 500MHz at 4-4-4-12-2T w/o any errors. Swapped it out back for the HyperX PC2-9200 D9GKX and memtest errors out. So if the FlexXLC PC2-9200 were really based on D9GMH, it could be true that the RD600 has issues with D9GKX. I couldn't even get the HyperX PC2-9200 to run at spec.

However, I could run the HyperX PC2-9200 (single stick) at 577MHz and both stick passed memtest at 577MHz. Drop in both sticks and it errors out, at over 525MHz, no matter what timing I applied.

well if high freq. D9GKX doesn't work (yet), try testing it 1:1 to see what latencies you can get, with both 1T or 2T, maybe you can even get better performance then with 600MHz, though I hope this problem will be solved, maybe it's just a certain BIOS version?

eva2000 did you use GKXs with the RD600? or any other tester, RGone maybe? what are your results?
01-20-2007, 04:26 AM
Raja@ASUS

On this board I'm finding I can run far higher than orthos blend without issue 100-200mhz at least, occt seems closer to my 24/7 point, so I am working on 4 hour runs from now on in. I am testing cas 4 with occt atm ddr1000 or so, but not using d9gkx, that will follow.

regards
Raja
01-20-2007, 08:17 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by marauder16

eva2000 did you use GKXs with the RD600? or any other tester, RGone maybe? what are your results?

I'm using 2GB OCZ PC8000 Titanium Alpha VX2 as well but not 100% sure if it's D9GKX or D9GMH as i haven't look under the heatspreaders - really no point. I'm testing/benching at 475mhz 4-4-2-3-4 4-28 1T at 2.35v and 556mhz and 580mhz 4-4-2-4-4 4-28 2T at 2.51v and 2.64v respectively.
01-20-2007, 09:10 AM
aspms*

Stop frightening me, I'm still waiting for my DFI RD600 and OCZ PC8000 PE! And I still don't know what kind of chips I'll get on them (previous user is saying that GMH)! So is anybody here who is using this memory- OCZ PC8000 Platinum Edition CL5- what kind of chips you got?
01-20-2007, 09:41 AM
Raja@ASUS

well I came down 100mhz or so to see if I could pull up the whole system speed by going 9x multi and over ddr1100 cas 4 as bingo/eva said, so far with cellshock, I will see how long it lasts at 2.46vdimm.. I guess that's the only way to near 975 performance clock for clock..

regards
Raja
01-20-2007, 09:46 AM
marauder16

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

I'm using 2GB OCZ PC8000 Titanium Alpha VX2 as well but not 100% sure if it's D9GKX or D9GMH as i haven't look under the heatspreaders - really no point. I'm testing/benching at 475mhz 4-4-2-3-4 4-28 1T at 2.35v and 556mhz and 580mhz 4-4-2-4-4 4-28 2T at 2.51v and 2.64v respectively.

thnx eva, just one more question: do you think it's better to run memory when OCing (on this board) at 1:1 with tight latencies, or go asynch. on memory freq. with loosened timings?
01-20-2007, 10:13 AM
pcmoddingmy

Quote:

Originally Posted by raju

thx for the info, I am using my crucial ballistix 533 3-3-3-12 kit now, at ddr 700 1T as a starter. The D9GKX works fine at stock spec, though overclocked it does not seem to be able to hit cas 4 ddr1000 async..

Are you able to achieve better overclocked cpu/ram mhz with D9GMH in Orthos blend?

regards
Raja

Well, the stock for HyperX D9GKX is PC2-9200. For some reason, it passed memtest at 577MHz 5-5-5-15-2T just now. Weird...will let it Blend later.

Some D9GMH results on RD600:
OCZ FlexXLC PC2-9200 2x1GB D9GMH @ 577MHz 5-5-5-15-2T - 2.35VDIMM - 9 hours ORTHOS Blend Test Passed - Stock Chipset Cooling

http://lp.pcmoddingmy.com/albums/use...sb_9hrBlnd.jpg

OCZ PC2-8000 Ti Alpha VX2 2x1GB D9GMH @ 400MHz 3-3-3-5-1T - 2.51VDIMM - 8 hours ORTHOS Blend Test Passed - Stock Chipset Cooling

http://lp.pcmoddingmy.com/albums/use...sb_8hrBlnd.jpg

I think the board gets a little funny if you play with the CS Output Timing and ADDR/CMD Driving Pre-AMP.
01-20-2007, 10:13 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by marauder16

thnx eva, just one more question: do you think it's better to run memory when OCing (on this board) at 1:1 with tight latencies, or go asynch. on memory freq. with loosened timings?

all depends on

1. Your max memory clocks at 1:1 tight latencies and async max looser i.e. 4-4-4-4-4 - for me tightened 556mhz 4-4-2-4-4 2T was slightly faster than 475mhz 4-4-2-3-4 1T..

2. the advance sub timings for tRCDW, tRC, tRFC, tRRD and tWR and what you set them as ...

Only way is to test for yourself :)

Also there are strap changes at certain FSB i.e. 400-403FSB there's a change to complicate matters depending what 1:1 clock you settle for
01-20-2007, 10:21 AM
pcmoddingmy

My current Memtest #5 stable setting for HyperX PC2-9200 2x1GB kit (D9GKX):

Memory Clock Frequency: AUTO
Current Memory Clock: 533 MHz

Control CPU Frequency: AUTO
x CPU Frequency (Mhz): 0
NB FSB Strapping: AUTO
PCI-E Overclock: 100
Software Reset Clockgen: Enabled
Memory Overclocking: Enabled
Overclock Frequency (Mhz): 577

CPU Vid Control: AUTO
CPU VID Special ADD: AUTO
DDR2 Ram 1.8 Voltage: 2.35
CPU VTT 1.2V Voltage: 1.21
NB Core 1.2V Voltage: 1.30
NB PLL 1.8V Voltage: 1.83
NB PLL 1.2V Voltage: 1.21
NB PCI-E 1.2V Voltage: 1.22
NB Core 1.2V convert from: 1.81
SB Core 1.2V Voltage: 1.23
Clockgen Voltage: 3.40
GTL REF Voltage control: Disabled
CPU PLL Setting Overide: Disabled
PLL Override loop count: AUTO
Conroe P-State Multiplier: AUTO
C1E Function: Disabled

CS Output Timing: AUTO
CK Output Timing: AUTO
Dual channel Split Mode: AUTO
ADDR/CMD Driving Pre-AMP: Enable
ADDR/CMD Driving Strength: 5
Clocking Driving Pre-AMP: Always
Clocking Driving Strength: 5
Address/Command Timing: 2T
Memory Timing Select: Manual

CAS Timing (TCAS): 5
Read RAS-CAS Delay (TRCDR): 5
Write RAS-CAS Delay (TRCDW): 5
RAS Precharge Time (TRP): 5
Cycle Time (TRAS): 15

Row Cycle Time (TRC): 25
Refresh to Active (TRFC): 42
Bank to Bank CMD (TRRD): 4
Write Recovery (TWR): 5

Read-Write Command (TRTW): 5
Write-Write CS (TWTW_CS): 5
Write-Read Command (TWTR): 4
Write-Read CS (TWTR_CS): 4
Read-Read CS (TRTR_CS): 4
Read Data Transfers: 6

Memory Auto-Calibration
Read Data Transfer: Enabled
Read Strobe Delay: Disabled
Read Strobe Arrival: Enabled

Northbridge Selections
Memory Channels: AUTO
Memory Power Management: Disabled
IGD Clock Gate: Disable
NB Channel Mapping: AUTO
Simple Addr Translation: Disable
Chip-Select Swap: Disable
Burst Length: 8
Bank0 Map GFX: 4
Bank1 Map GFX: 5
Bank2 Map GFX: 6
Channel Mapping NB: 5
Channel Mapping GFX: 1
Bank0 Map NB: 5
Bank1 Map NB: 11
Bank2 Map NB: 7

FSB IO Driving Control: Auto
01-20-2007, 10:24 AM
The Nemesis

I'm really enjoying toying with this board. Its much easier to overclock even with all the crazy bios options. Still slower than 975X, but that seems to hold true with Pi mostly. I'm almost sorry I have the ABit IN9 32-Max on the way:)
01-20-2007, 10:46 AM
XeRo

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nemesis

I'm really enjoying toying with this board. Its much easier to overclock even with all the crazy bios options. Still slower than 975X, but that seems to hold true with Pi mostly. I'm almost sorry I have the ABit IN9 32-Max on the way:)

Just send that IN9 32-MAX to me.
01-20-2007, 10:50 AM
marauder16

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

all depends on

1. Your max memory clocks at 1:1 tight latencies and async max looser i.e. 4-4-4-4-4 - for me tightened 556mhz 4-4-2-4-4 2T was slightly faster than 475mhz 4-4-2-3-4 1T..

2. the advance sub timings for tRCDW, tRC, tRFC, tRRD and tWR and what you set them as ...

Only way is to test for yourself :)

Also there are strap changes at certain FSB i.e. 400-403FSB there's a change to complicate matters depending what 1:1 clock you settle for

thnx for that one eva, of course I'm gonna test everything myself, thnx for help ;)
01-20-2007, 10:58 AM
eva2000

Using 12/22 official bios decided to check out high FSB clocks by dropping multi from 9x to 7x and clocking FSB up to 502FSB. My ICFX3200 is retail early sample, removed NB's white foam spacer, reapplied thin layer of AS5 under stock passive NB heatsink. Added 60x38mm Sunon 23.5cfm MagLev fan over the NB.

NB Load temp = 51-55C at 1.76v bios set NB volts in 31.8C room temps open desktop bench rig running Prime95 v25.1 blend.

Click image for full screenshot.

http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/ICFX...nd_load_tn.png
01-20-2007, 12:27 PM
amandpm

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcmoddingmy

I think this board needs another type of tweaking for D9GKX, or maybe it dislikes D9GKX. I've just tested my OCZ PC2-8000 Ti Alpha VX2 2x1GB D9GMH kit and it does 500MHz at 4-4-4-12-2T w/o any errors. Swapped it out back for the HyperX PC2-9200 D9GKX and memtest errors out. So if the FlexXLC PC2-9200 were really based on D9GMH, it could be true that the RD600 has issues with D9GKX. I couldn't even get the HyperX PC2-9200 to run at spec.

However, I could run the HyperX PC2-9200 (single stick) at 577MHz and both stick passed memtest at 577MHz. Drop in both sticks and it errors out, at over 525MHz, no matter what timing I applied.

Pcmoddingmy have you looked for this memory?

http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...al_channel-eol

OCZ DDR2 PC2-9000 Titanium Alpha VX2 DFI Special Dual Channel *EOL
I am trying to get some through OCZ as I can't find anybody selling it.

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