Dothan @ CT-479 - howto and fixes.

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09-26-2005, 01:32 PM
Elisha

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...udason/SPI.jpg
09-26-2005, 01:40 PM
0verl0ad

Can you make a Screen of CPU-Z with the Memorytimings.

You you are nearly 2 sec faster than i. But you are only 74mhz more than me ...

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/da...332427_406.JPG
09-26-2005, 01:52 PM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0verl0ad

Can you make a Screen of CPU-Z with the Memorytimings.

You you are nearly 2 sec faster than i. But you are only 74mhz more than me ...

Firstly you are with the P4P800 and 865 and he is with the P4C800 and 875....... ;)

Now here's another one with the P4C800 and 875.......... ;)

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...-Pi_25_png.png

EDIT: I just show that you've got TWO "minus"......a. P4P800 and b. Cas 2.5-3-3-6.......NO go..... ;)
09-26-2005, 02:05 PM
Elisha

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

Firstly you are with the P4P800 and 865 and he is with the P4C800 and 875....... ;)

Now here's another one with the P4C800 and 875.......... ;)

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...-Pi_25_png.png

EDIT: I just show that you've got TWO "minus"......a. P4P800 and b. Cas 2.5-3-3-6.......NO go..... ;)

hipro thats crazy. could you run PI MOD so that i can see the milisecs.

anyway here's the mem timing i used: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...875tweaker.jpg
09-26-2005, 02:05 PM
saaya

funny to think i held this ct479 in my hands some weeks ago george :D hehehe
09-26-2005, 02:14 PM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elisha

hipro thats crazy. could you run PI MOD so that i can see the milisecs.

anyway here's the mem timing i used: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...875tweaker.jpg

Sorry, this was done on July.....Since then, I have disassemble the comp while testing the cascade......I'll be back soon..... But I have some more on higher frequencies though..... ;)

Like this - let's say -..... :)

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...21.984_png.png

EDIT: Try to use the "111" parameter if your rams could handle it and not the "110" on the older Tweaker.....

EDIT 2 : ALSO boot at 200MHz and not at 201MHz..... ;)
09-26-2005, 02:20 PM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

funny to think i held this ct479 in my hands some weeks ago george :D hehehe

:D :toast:
09-26-2005, 02:21 PM
Elisha

is there a difference in the old and new tweaker?
i thougt the old one had three digits and the new had 2 but otherwise all is the same.
i get no difference between 11 or 10.
09-26-2005, 02:24 PM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elisha

is there a difference in the old and new tweaker?
i thougt the old one had three digits and the new had 2 but otherwise all is the same.
i get no difference between 11 or 10.

I haven't tested the newer one........but I think that you are right.......111 = 11 and 110 = 10.......After all I don't use the Tweaker at all.... :D

In bios I put everything in turbo and enable with the lower latencies so I don't need tweaker.... ;)
09-26-2005, 02:32 PM
Elisha

ah ic but the p4c800 doesn have alot of memory timings in the bios at all.
i even flashed to the new bios but there is absolutely nothing different which is dissapointing.

3D2K1:
36,383
too bad my xms3500 BH5 is dead or my lobby low would be higher.
09-26-2005, 03:19 PM
fordf250

It looks like the p4c800-e dlx does not give 2.85Vdimm when set to that.All the settings my tcc5 ran on my 875p-t at 2.8Vdimm ( read very hard and fussy on ram) was not stable on my p4c.
09-26-2005, 11:05 PM
hipro5

Here's a comparison for the P4P800 and the P4C800 mobos......

P4P800-SE

Take a good look at the ram speed here......

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...aR_694_png.png

P4C800E-Deluxe

.....now take a good look at the ram speed here.......

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...aR_759_png.png

As you can see here, the ram on P4P is on a LOT higher frequency than the P4C one.......BUT PAT works fine on the P4C......The "phseudo PAT" on P4P isn't doing a good job....... ;)
All test are with everything aggressive

AGAIN P4P800

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D..._41.54_png.png

.......and P4C800.......

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D..._40.38_png.png

P4P800

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D..._32.99_png.png

P4C800

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D..._31.72_png.png

As you can see there is no comparison between those two mobos......P4C800E-D is way ahead of the P4P800-SE.......

.....and max RAM frequency on P4C800E-Deluxe.......cpu-z verified......a bit lower...not 280MHz but 279.8MHz..... :D

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...sb_1_1_png.png

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...0_cpuz_png.png

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...700_id_png.png
09-26-2005, 11:55 PM
zbogorgon

can sb tell how should be next two options set for fastest performance

DRAM Idle Timer
DRAM Refreah Rate
09-27-2005, 02:52 AM
audiojunk66

Quote:

Originally Posted by zbogorgon

can sb tell how should be next two options set for fastest performance

DRAM Idle Timer
DRAM Refreah Rate

I'm not sure but i think it also depends on what memory you use,just try some settings and run some benchmarks to see if you get a beter result.
09-27-2005, 07:31 AM
toledo

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

Firstly you are with the P4P800 and 865 and he is with the P4C800 and 875....... ;)

Now here's another one with the P4C800 and 875.......... ;)

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...-Pi_25_png.png

EDIT: I just show that you've got TWO "minus"......a. P4P800 and b. Cas 2.5-3-3-6.......NO go..... ;)

Just to compare how faster is P4C over P4GD1 , I will test soon at exactly the same clock and timmings as Hipro5 soon :D

BTW , Stryg add that to the first page also . ;)

http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/marcel...edo/spi_XS.JPG
09-27-2005, 08:32 AM
Elisha

hey Toledo try Pi Mod so we can see the miliseconds difference.
09-27-2005, 09:39 AM
Mr.President

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

Sorry, this was done on July.....Since then, I have disassemble the comp while testing the cascade......I'll be back soon..... But I have some more on higher frequencies though..... ;)

Like this - let's say -..... :)

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...21.984_png.png

EDIT: Try to use the "111" parameter if your rams could handle it and not the "110" on the older Tweaker.....

EDIT 2 : ALSO boot at 200MHz and not at 201MHz..... ;)

hipro this result is great :) 25s with 2,7 :clap:

does anybody knnows if the dualcore p-ms will use 479 ?
09-27-2005, 10:21 AM
cirthix

yes, they will, but it might not be the same 479.
09-27-2005, 10:56 AM
zbogorgon

can anybody help me, when i mount my phase change on my dothan, I allways get "new cpu installed" and can't get past bios, except default settings. Tried reflashing bios, doesn't help, cleared cmos, doesn't help either.
09-27-2005, 11:16 AM
Rovtar

maybe something is wrong with cpu?
09-27-2005, 12:50 PM
Elisha

maybe it doesn't like below minus temps.
09-27-2005, 01:47 PM
zbogorgon

now i have the same problem on stock cooler to???
09-27-2005, 02:40 PM
jrw

1 Attachment(s)

Be aware that the adapter might be pushing to the P4 retension socket from beneath.

Make sure that the board is properly mounted and use spacer if not mounted at all :)
09-28-2005, 12:18 AM
kiko

re:

BTW P4P can do a good job booting at 200. :)
PAT is fully enabled w/ turbo setting. Unfortunately only 1:1 divider work w/ 533 bootstrap.

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/kikoguru/img/27s.png

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/kikoguru/img/27891.png

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/kikoguru/img/28055.png

[ti4200 at low resolution]

Ciao
09-28-2005, 02:07 AM
zbogorgon

actually i fixed it, i vaccumed both sockets and it's gone, probobly some of the insulation got caught up between.

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