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02-07-2009, 02:15 AM
Daveburt714

FWIW, it seems pretty safe to turn ACC on using the 703 bios with a PhII. I've been playing with it for a few hours and haven't had to move the jumper yet...:up: (much better than 603 bios!)

Here are the things I've noticed so far:

1) It does screw up the individual core temp display in AOD 2.1.4 (and HWMonitor), but the TIMPIN1 still works so you'll have an idea of the CPU temp...

2) Unlike the 9950 which liked positive numbers (+4/+6) the PhII likes negative numbers better (-4/-6). I started off raising the ACC and went all the way up to +8, but I had much better luck on the negative side. The side benefit of that was that even at higher V's the temps stayed lower (of course thats assuming TIMPIN1 is reliable)....

These are very preliminary results, and ACC is just as confusing as it was using the 9950 but at least it's safe to play with again... ;)

Heres a SS of what I have so far.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...07_AOD_ACC.jpg

Actual speed is 3.85, not sure why AOD shows current speed as 3.71. I can only assume Bios still needs a little more work... :D

BTW, I'm running 64bit Windows7 now, so take that into consideration as far as odd results are concerned. It runs pretty stable so I doubt that has anything to do with the wierd temp/speed results...
02-07-2009, 08:55 AM
HondaGuy

Same setting in Bios ACC tho @ -6 with 1.45volts to CPU

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4885/acc6zv2.png
02-07-2009, 08:57 AM
MadDias

seems as if u have to leave cpu vdda voltage at auto when using acc.
my temp reading in coretemp is now working with +2% acc.
when i used 2.8v cpu vdda i got that funny 0°C reading in coretemp.
0703 seems way more stable than any previous bios version.
02-07-2009, 09:43 AM
charged3800z24

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadDias

seems as if u have to leave cpu vdda voltage at auto when using acc.
my temp reading in coretemp is now working with +2% acc.
when i used 2.8v cpu vdda i got that funny 0°C reading in coretemp.
0703 seems way more stable than any previous bios version.

weird, I wonder if it is something else tho, I get 0 temp reading with VDDA on auto too.
02-07-2009, 09:49 AM
MadDias

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Originally Posted by charged3800z24

weird, I wonder if it is something else tho, I get 0 temp reading with VDDA on auto too.

me too now.. lol
must be something else.
02-07-2009, 09:55 AM
charged3800z24

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadDias

me too now.. lol
must be something else.

If you figure it out let us know :p:
02-07-2009, 09:57 AM
HondaGuy

When is the new AOD coming out any rumors?...Even if I set ACC to minus same thing here, 0 on the cores, but I do get a reading in Everest for CPU temp only
02-07-2009, 11:27 AM
MadDias

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged3800z24

If you figure it out let us know :p:

200x18 cpu +2%acc tempreading is correct
200x18.5 +2% acc 0°C

such a nice bios... but it´s asus again...

the cpu temp in everest is 22°C for me all the time. it was like that on all bios versions. and 22°C can´t be correct, cause my water temp is between 33-35°C.
if everest showed the mainboard cpu diode it would be more like 40+°C.
02-07-2009, 12:16 PM
charged3800z24

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadDias

200x18 cpu +2%acc tempreading is correct
200x18.5 +2% acc 0°C

such a nice bios... but it´s asus again...

the cpu temp in everest is 22°C for me all the time. it was like that on all bios versions. and 22°C can´t be correct, cause my water temp is between 33-35°C.
if everest showed the mainboard cpu diode it would be more like 40+°C.

I might try to do some HT OCing and see if I past that frequency and still get temps. Thanks for the info:up:
02-07-2009, 12:19 PM
soundood

i generaly find that if my water temps is 30 degrees C then my Motherboard diode is 40 C, this is confirmed with a seperate temp gauge (external)

so across the board, i am 10 degrees hotter than my water is :up:
02-07-2009, 12:47 PM
charged3800z24

Quote:

Originally Posted by HondaGuy

When is the new AOD coming out any rumors?...Even if I set ACC to minus same thing here, 0 on the cores, but I do get a reading in Everest for CPU temp only

I bet after Monday, isn't that the official AM3 launch?
02-07-2009, 01:04 PM
Titan7171

I was wondering if aod 2.1.5 was geared towards the phenom 2 since it had so much trouble running with Phenom 1. Maybe they had made some major changes that would work well with Phenom 2. But would not work with Phenom 1?
02-07-2009, 03:58 PM
MadDias

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titan7171

I was wondering if aod 2.1.5 was geared towards the phenom 2 since it had so much trouble running with Phenom 1. Maybe they had made some major changes that would work well with Phenom 2. But would not work with Phenom 1?

2.1.5 isn´t working at all... neither with PhI nor with PhII. it just shows bs clocks like 6-7ghz when ur running stock.
02-07-2009, 04:02 PM
HondaGuy

2.1.5 is working here
02-07-2009, 08:25 PM
Gener_AL (UK)

There was an update to 2.1.5. check the last 3 digits (238) i think it was (218) . the first release was bugged quite bad and was reported by a few inclduing myself.
Works fiiine here on BIOS 403 602 703
02-08-2009, 06:48 PM
evilSuRGe

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Well after hours trying to get 4Ghz i was able to post with 1.625v. but locked up after cpz- validate.
02-08-2009, 06:59 PM
charged3800z24

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Originally Posted by evilSuRGe

Well after hours trying to get 4Ghz i was able to post with 1.625v. but locked up after cpz- validate.

what are your temps on your setting in your sig? I have a simular setup.
02-08-2009, 07:00 PM
evilSuRGe

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Above was with acc on auto.
ACC auto is the only thing that works for me. +2% and +4% i was able to post but not stable. ACC on negetive range wouldnt post.
before on 0602 i was only able to get 3.6Ghz stable
Now with ACC on auto im rock steady at 3.8Ghz with 1.575v
02-08-2009, 07:09 PM
evilSuRGe

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Originally Posted by charged3800z24

what are your temps on your setting in your sig? I have a simular setup.

My idle temps are 40-44c under load it doesnt go higher than 58c.
Im going to do a 2 hour prime next and i'll leave HWMonitor running to get readings for you.
02-08-2009, 07:14 PM
evilSuRGe

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only voltage listed wrong is CPU its at 1.575v
02-08-2009, 07:39 PM
kazgirl

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Originally Posted by evilSuRGe

only voltage listed wrong is CPU its at 1.575v

Hiya, yu can get teh voltage to show correctly in AOD by changing the setting in the prefrences.xml file in the AOD install folder...!!

Need to change it to " <MaximumVCoreEnabled>1</MaximumVCoreEnabled> "

Out of interest however I too am finding that AOD 2.1.5 is showing incorrect clocks the target clocks are correct, but the current speed clocks are way off, currently showing as 3.7-3.8Ghz when I'm actually running at 3.3Ghz..!!!

CPU-Z and Everest 5.0 show correct values though..!!!
02-08-2009, 09:18 PM
Daveburt714

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilSuRGe

only voltage listed wrong is CPU its at 1.575v

Hey :), looks like your chip is very similar to mine as far as clocks/V's goes..

If your memory is decent you may want to lower your multi to 18.5x and raise the HTRef clock. That will raise the CPU/NB/Mem all at the same time, and gives a pretty good performace boost. Ofcourse it's more to watch, but it's a worthy task. (no offense intended if you already knew this :D)

Like you, my AOD dosn't show correct temps on the tweak page. Actuall CPU v's are 1.565, all others are right. Heres a SS of my 99.999% stable clocks..

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3..._StableAOD.png

I've actually pretty much give up on ACC (again :yepp:), especially since the PhII supposedly has it built into the core and I really didn't see any improvement in OC.... Looks like there might be a slight edge on temps by going negative on the ACC, but it screws up my AOD temp readings and just adds another piece to the puzzle that is Phenom.... :cool:
02-09-2009, 01:26 AM
oc_junkY

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilSuRGe

Above was with acc on auto.
ACC auto is the only thing that works for me. +2% and +4% i was able to post but not stable. ACC on negetive range wouldnt post.
before on 0602 i was only able to get 3.6Ghz stable
Now with ACC on auto im rock steady at 3.8Ghz with 1.575v

Do you take those volts as 24/7 settings?
I'm afraid of that number 1.6 (read from your cpu-z screenshot), but i'm not sure how many years or months the volts reduce the lifetime or stability of a CPU :shrug:
02-09-2009, 04:02 AM
Gener_AL (UK)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazgirl

Hiya, yu can get teh voltage to show correctly in AOD by changing the setting in the prefrences.xml file in the AOD install folder...!!

Need to change it to " <MaximumVCoreEnabled>1</MaximumVCoreEnabled> "

Out of interest however I too am finding that AOD 2.1.5 is showing incorrect clocks the target clocks are correct, but the current speed clocks are way off, currently showing as 3.7-3.8Ghz when I'm actually running at 3.3Ghz..!!!

CPU-Z and Everest 5.0 show correct values though..!!!

Also worth setting that file to read only.

Kazgirl, make sure you have the latest version of 2.01.5 AOD, that fixed the CP clock bug AFIAK. (AOD215_238Setup.exe)
02-09-2009, 12:04 PM
kazgirl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gener_AL (UK)

Also worth setting that file to read only.

Kazgirl, make sure you have the latest version of 2.01.5 AOD, that fixed the CP clock bug AFIAK. (AOD215_238Setup.exe)

Hi Gener_AL..

Thanks I saw your earlier post about the version so I downloaded it again, to make sure.... but get the same problem with it.... I should say that this is in Win7 BTW...!!!

At first I couldn't get AOD to install in Win7 as it gives a message saying that AOD needs Vista or XP in order to run and then the setup closes...!!

I got around this by installing on another Vista machine, and then copying the Overdirve folder from C:/ProgramsX86/AMD/Overdrive in my Vista install, and pasting it into the C:/ProgramsX86/AMD folder in my Win7 install, needed to take ownership of the folder then to set the preferences.xml to enable max vcore, and then it started up in Win7 without any trouble, but it's giving me this Clock reading error...!!!!

Here's what I see in AOD..

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...OD_Piccopy.jpg

It could very well be down to the irregular method of installing it, I havn't really tested this version in Vista yet.... as I've been spending 100% of my time in Win7 at the moment...!!!

I'll have to boot into Vista and check to see.....!!!!

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