DFI LanPARTY nF4 SLI-DR Venus First look!!!

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01-30-2006, 02:49 PM
Trice

I run my Ultra D at 265 and 3-3-2-6 at 2.8v. I dont think the board will make that much of a difference will it?
01-30-2006, 02:54 PM
irev210

wait, so does the venus report proper CPU temps?
01-31-2006, 05:29 PM
FZ1

I see they left the same crappy chipset cooler on

EDIT - LOL - see someone beat me to this...
01-31-2006, 05:58 PM
LoN3R

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Originally Posted by palehorse

if the Venus actually reports temperatures accurately, then I'm going to fight tooth and nail to have this funked-up Expert board RMA'd for one...

"THE board for overclockers" my arse... how can that be when it inconsistently under-reports temps by as much as 20C?!

lol.. other than that, i love my Expert.. but mannnnn this temp issue is irking the hell out of me! lol..

theyre off on every board . if it is engineered for overclockers then some might use a 3rd party temp monitoring device
01-31-2006, 08:21 PM
AeroSquid

is dfi ever going to get rid of the fan?
01-31-2006, 08:54 PM
Lestat

yeah same :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty fan right there blowing tons ofhot air on the video cards.. same crappy aluminum with the same crappy thermal pad under it.

ok so let me get this straight...

"We introduce the Venus mobo where we have fixed previous issues and increased stability overall while adding 100% coverage of alum. cap's. But don't wait around to get the motherboard that we should have released a year ago. Get it now cuz its in limited quantities and probably costs $300"

ok screw that, i'm sorry DFI. i went thru 4 DFI series boards before i got one that was stable and held it's own. i mean screw that with a big capitol F U

i loved the one i finally got but it took several hundred dollars to get one that didnt fry, didnt kill 2 sets of VERY friggin expensive ram, and one that just all out was a piece of engineering crap.

keep your venice board and release it in mass quantities the way you SHOULD have released the baord a long time ago.

oh and they are only putting out a 1000 cuz after a thousand they just go to :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

this is a pre release lets go show it off to the freaks in the forums. So when they go buy it it runs like total :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

isnt it funny how the mfg reps come here showing off all this cool new hardware and when WE the consumer go out and buy it,, its just a big pile of :banana::banana::banana::banana:e. cough cough OCZ and their fantastically total :banana::banana::banana::banana: ram..
ASUS and their every popular biggest pile of crap mobo's made (funny an el cheapo Biostar Tforce 6100 baord i have is WAY more stable and overclockable than any asus i have ever owned is..)

anyways as much as i love seeing new stuff come out,, the new stuff is just OVERPRICED crap that should have been released a long time ago.. and then whent he item goes full retail... its just a pile of crap...
"oh look i got a pre release xxxxxx hardware" cool now keep it cuz you will never get a retail one that runs as good as that pre release one...

sorry....
Angry_Games, Donna, and frank have all been fantastic to work with, but when your dealing with someone who has went thru hundreds of dollars and MULTIPLE boards just to get one that works properly and stable... don't count on me buying anything from you anytime soon.

yes. im an angry old man i hate everyone and everything lol

anyways cool board but this is too little too late dfi.
01-31-2006, 09:25 PM
ben805

AM2 is around the corner...it's crazy to roll out yet another new board this late :lol: unless it sells for $150 otherwise I wonder how many folks going to fall for this.. :D :D
01-31-2006, 09:47 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben805

AM2 is around the corner...it's crazy to roll out yet another new board this late :lol: unless it sells for $150 otherwise I wonder how many folks going to fall for this.. :D :D

I will :p: And I don't think it's gonna cost them too much to produce considering it's the exact same board as the expert just with different caps and maybe a couple of different ic's......
02-01-2006, 02:57 AM
Tony

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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

I will :p: And I don't think it's gonna cost them too much to produce considering it's the exact same board as the expert just with different caps and maybe a couple of different ic's......

Its far from that, there are 6 layers to this board and Oskar has told me he reworked a few for the memory etc.

If you don't like playing don't buy it, if your ultra D clocks your TCCD just fine stick with it, if you want to see what the hype is about go buy venus...simple really
02-01-2006, 03:01 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

Its far from that, there are 6 layers to this board and Oskar has told me he reworked a few for the memory etc.

If you don't like playing don't buy it, if your ultra D clocks your TCCD just fine stick with it, if you want to see what the hype is about go buy venus...simple really

Ummmm....I hope you're not directing that comment at me Tony - I said I would buy it......;)
02-01-2006, 05:50 AM
metro.cl

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Originally Posted by Tony

Its far from that, there are 6 layers to this board and Oskar has told me he reworked a few for the memory etc.

If you don't like playing don't buy it, if your ultra D clocks your TCCD just fine stick with it, if you want to see what the hype is about go buy venus...simple really

any benchs?
02-01-2006, 07:24 AM
palehorse

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Originally Posted by LoN3R

theyre off on every board . if it is engineered for overclockers then some might use a 3rd party temp monitoring device

im sorry, but being off by more than 15C is simply not acceptable. And you may not know this, but without removing the IHS from the CPU, you cant get anywhere near the core with any type of probe to measure it effectively.

So in other words, there is no real way to know what my temps are, and THAT is unacceptable from a board supposedly built for overclocking. Nothing you tell me will convice me otherwise...

that said, i LOVE my expert board, but it's just tough to live on the edge, overclocking blindly in terms of temps... alot of $$ at stake ya know!?

and i'd gladly take this Venus board as a replacement if it fixes this problem :)
02-01-2006, 12:43 PM
~PI-IOENIX~

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Originally Posted by ~PI-IOENIX~

i am actually using the ultra D. Will i notice a difference with my bh-5 with the expert/venus?

any idea?
02-01-2006, 02:39 PM
ozzimark

Quote:

Originally Posted by palehorse

im sorry, but being off by more than 15C is simply not acceptable. And you may not know this, but without removing the IHS from the CPU, you cant get anywhere near the core with any type of probe to measure it effectively.

in case you haven't noticed, it doesn't seem that the normal dfi's report proper temps.. at least not with my opteron.
here's why i think this:
1.4v, 2ghz -> 30c idle, 35c load
1.56v, 3ghz -> 31-32c idle, 37-38c load

so a 11.4% increase in voltage and 50% increase in speed is only getting me 2-3c warmer? right board, i have total faith in you :fact:

to a technical explaination of what i think is going on, think back to sensors 101, or an equivilent course if you ever took it.
the temperature is found by putting a voltage across a resistor, who's resistance changes a bunch more than usual with temperature. the voltage drop across or current through the resistor is measured and converted into a temperature.
now.. at 1.4v, my temps seem normal, but at 1.56v, they don't. what appears to be happening is that the sensor simply isn't calibrating for the higher than stock vcore properly, assuming that vcore is the voltage fed through that thermal resistor. if not, i'll shut up now ;)
02-05-2006, 01:33 AM
halcyon

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Originally Posted by ben805

AM2 is around the corner...it's crazy to roll out yet another new board this late :lol: unless it sells for $150 otherwise I wonder how many folks going to fall for this.. :D :D

With the latest AMD and nVidia snags, you are looking at a working M2 system (mobo with a proper chipset + actually the proper cpu for that socket) at June/July earliest.

Probably really working motherboards with proper revisions and working chipsets at late August?

It's all a gamble at this point.

And nobody knows what the upside will be? The first mobos might actually perform worse, untill DFI comes out with their M2 based mobos.

Also, six months in this hobby is a long time.
02-05-2006, 01:37 AM
dinos22

first Q 07 is probably the right time to go AM2 with first revisions.....i reckon this time round i'll be starting from second gen at least
02-05-2006, 05:29 AM
Kenetixx

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Originally Posted by dinos22

first Q 07 is probably the right time to go AM2 with first revisions.....i reckon this time round i'll be starting from second gen at least

LOL fark that who can wait that long for new hardware/technology? Not me thats for sure :)
02-05-2006, 06:00 AM
Reinvented

I'm always down for trying new stuff...just as long as it doesn't burn a hole in my pocket.
02-05-2006, 06:36 AM
mdzcpa

Quote:

Originally Posted by palehorse

im sorry, but being off by more than 15C is simply not acceptable.

There aren't any boards that report accurate CPU temps. All they do is supply a point of reference. The whole point of having CPU temp reporting is to see idle/load variations. Temperature points are all relative. Folks complain about temps from all the manufacturers... Abit, Asus, DFI, MSI, yada, yada, yada. Reminds me of the IC7-G temp reporting hysteria a few years back..lol. That never stopped any serious clockers. Niether does the DFI "temp reporting issue". If it makes you feel better, just add 15c to every number you see. Ta-da all fixed:) No offense, but its no big deal.

Anyway, after talking to my DFI source, I may indeed try this board. Sounds like a very niche overclockers board. 6 layer yumminess!!
02-05-2006, 07:38 AM
ccokeman

Temps off? so what i had an IC-7 maxIII and it was off an,A7N8x temps off. It doesnt matter because you can always find a way to get your temps or as close to what they are as you can and then settle on your own interpretation. This one would be interesting to try out.
02-05-2006, 08:33 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdzcpa

There aren't any boards that report accurate CPU temps. All they do is supply a point of reference. The whole point of having CPU temp reporting is to see idle/load variations. Temperature points are all relative. Folks complain about temps from all the manufacturers... Abit, Asus, DFI, MSI, yada, yada, yada. Reminds me of the IC7-G temp reporting hysteria a few years back..lol. That never stopped any serious clockers. Niether does the DFI "temp reporting issue". If it makes you feel better, just add 15c to every number you see. Ta-da all fixed:) No offense, but its no big deal.

Couldn't have said it better myself :clap:
02-05-2006, 02:50 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdzcpa

There aren't any boards that report accurate CPU temps. All they do is supply a point of reference. The whole point of having CPU temp reporting is to see idle/load variations. Temperature points are all relative. Folks complain about temps from all the manufacturers... Abit, Asus, DFI, MSI, yada, yada, yada. Reminds me of the IC7-G temp reporting hysteria a few years back..lol. That never stopped any serious clockers. Niether does the DFI "temp reporting issue". If it makes you feel better, just add 15c to every number you see. Ta-da all fixed:) No offense, but its no big deal.

Anyway, after talking to my DFI source, I may indeed try this board. Sounds like a very niche overclockers board. 6 layer yumminess!!

meh not when temps are out by 20C.....there are temp variation up to 3C or whatever but this is outrageously out...................it is an issue.....Abit had an issue like this and they fixed their :banana::banana::banana::banana: first before any other requests....because there was more ppl wanting that fixed than anything else.......i haven't had issues with an Ultra-D and SLI-D in terms of temps.....but i do with Expert and i want it fixed
02-05-2006, 03:04 PM
HARDCORECLOCKER

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Originally Posted by Lastviking

windwithme : have you send me the board yet? :p:

:D Nope - impossible cause just arrived here.............;) ;) ;)

:toast:
02-05-2006, 03:24 PM
Lastviking

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Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:D Nope - impossible cause just arrived here.............;) ;) ;)

:toast:

bummer...then he got wrong shiping adress :fact: , i realy need a board that take my bh5 higher :)
02-05-2006, 11:44 PM
Hell-Fire

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lastviking

bummer...then he got wrong shiping adress :fact: , i realy need a board that take my bh5 higher :)

You are terrible with ram, why do you need another board? :hehe:

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