Hmm.. Mag2, 3, 5, and 7. Never heard of a Mag6. You have a link? I would be interested in looking at the specs.
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Hmm.. Mag2, 3, 5, and 7. Never heard of a Mag6. You have a link? I would be interested in looking at the specs.
Hmmmm I have a mag6... And yet they are no longer listed. Discontinued? Then 5 or 7 should be suitable...
Oh, sorry, :slap: the fan is going to be mounted to a saddle T at the bottom of the 8 inch pipe, just above the reducer coupling. I was thinking of using a SilenX 80mm fan on a rheostat (spelling?) to adjust airflow in the tube. I also have a $10 Walgreens showerhead picked out that is like 7 inches in diameter. :toast: Right now I am just gonna have a Swifty 6002 block with 1/2 inch lines. I plan to add a video card at some point, but I want to make this friggin comp quieter than it is. It plays WoW, DoW, and the other games I play, so I don't "NEED" a vid card yet.
The reducer coupling has about 8 inches of overlap on the 10 inch pipe and 6 on the 8 inch pipe, The saddle T goes about halfway around the 8 inch pipe and is about 11 inches tall, I am gonna use SOOOO MUCH pipe glue!!
I have enough stuff for 2 of these bastages, I may do one free fall, and one with media (a not a bong) and compare them. Or I may glue my head to the pipe from all the fumes I'll be sucking down.
Just to try to clarify, my flow question was, The pipe will only be a few inches away from the comp, and so would the pump, can I move the pump verticaly a few feet to increase it's head preasure without sacrificing suck performance? I'll check out the mag6 though.
::EDIT:: I can't find the mag6 or 7 pump, I only found a mag5 on ebay, would it work? Are the mag pumps AC or DC? Can someone post a link for me?
Here you go:
http://www.customaquatic.com/customa...dexid=wp-wp-s2 just click on the WP-DM02517, that will give you a chart for the flows of all the Mags.
Oh, and I would not try to raise the pump. It will not help the head pressure since it will not get enough water inflow.
Thanks for the link Andrew. I got some of the gluing done, and will post some pix in a minute... It's a bit obtusive... my wife HATES it!! :slapass:
Ok, got the pipe all cleaned up, sanded lightly for painting, and glued up. I am gonna hit the inside seams with some silicone caulking to make sure water doesn't get where I don't want it. I didn't glue the cooling riser to the res, the riser slips into the reducer coupling so it shouldn't leak, and alows me to take it apart to clean it, or mod as needed. Here are 2 picks, one together( it's about 10 inches from the ceiling) and one apart.
Wow. I bow to you my man. NOW THAT IS A BONG PEOPLE! How are you scattering the water?
god lol i have bong envy
LOL Somewhere, in a dorm someone looked at those pics while eating a box of PopTarts and started to cry. :D
Well, I am just doing what I can with what I got. Budget restraints are killing me. Still gotta wait for the pump, tubing, waterblock, etc. In other words, I have to hurry up and sell my .44mag so I can get this maddness running.
I was gonna use a showerhead, in pic, that's 4 inches in dia. and has I think 50 jets. I may try stuffing the riser with some of that blue water cooler pad stuff if this head makes too much noise shooting into the tube or res. This head may just have to strong a patern to cool well, but we will have to wait and see. Has anyone used a rheostat on these pumps to control the flow?
::EDIT::
Still working on how to mount the showerhead, I am looking at building a bracket that sits on top of the riser and holds the showerhead in about 2 inches from the top. I was thinking of using copper tubing and bending a piece about 3 foot long to go up the side of the riser then bend into the showerhead. I figure a 4inch 180 degree bend would have less restriction than 2 90 degre elbows.
That is frellin' huge! :eek2:
Ok, now that I get the humungusness of what you are doing, I would say:
1) Go with a higher pump. Mag9.5 or if the budget allows it maybe even the 12.
2) Unless you want to go subambient (and deal with the insulation issues), you will not need to run the fan on the bong much at all. Between the height of the fall and the size of your res (9gal) your water will say cool for quite awhile before you need the fan.
3) You are the bong god! :worship:
4) Your wife might hate it, but I don't think that I could ever persuade my wife to let me build something like that. You are lucky!
5) You WILL need that padding. The sound of the water falling from that height will be loud. It will sound alot nicer than a fan's whine but it will still be loud.
6) You are the bong god! :worship:
I would love to be there in person, just to see that beast running!
Way to be Xtreme! :clap:
LOL Well, the 9 gallon figure was just for 2 feet of 10 inch pipe, I didn't think about the pipe only going 2 inches into the reducer coupling. With the length of the coupling, I should be able to get 11-12 gallons in it. :woot:
As for my wife, she thought it would be cute when I was talking about a 10 liter fishtank with a pair of 3 foot clear pvc risers, when she got home and saw what I had done, she wasn't to happy. :slapass: I think she said something like, "Wow, green pipe and white fittings will look so good in the den it's not even funny, ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!?!" She may have said something to my father who gave me the "extra" pipe, but didn't say anything more to me about it. :stick: Though she does roll her eyes and sigh when she walks into the den. (hehehehe).
I was gonna try a small ag sprayer pump, but it only runs whith less than 60 psi in the line, so I don't think it is spec'ed for constant use. And it's not very quiet.
::EDIT:: WEEEEAK!! They copy protected the flow chart page! God forbid someone might want to post that info someplace easy to find.
The mag7 flows 350 gph @ 7 feet head
the mag 9.5 flows 660 gph @ 7 feet
the mag 12 flows 810 gph @ 7 feet
the swifty 655 flows 615 gph max (I assume that means at the pump)
How much flow do I need? I don't realy want a pump that uses more power than my fridge. My wife would realy go off then! All the Mag pumps seem better for my application than the swifty, but how much is enough?
The reason for the larger pump is because it is going to need to push the water from the floor up to and through your computer's water block (two blocks when you add a GPU block) then to where you have the shower head. That works out to more than 7' of head loss.
If I can make a small request: Make sure that your output of the power and water are above the water line of the res. The reasons should be clear but with that much water 'sitting around' you just don't want any leaks. And we don't want any spousecide going on. ;)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=39827
must the pump be submersed?
No.
Oh,yeah. The power and water lines will be coming out through the air pipe. I am using a 4 inch saddle T and 45 degree elbow, with a screw in plug. I will mount the fan on the plug, and take the lines out through a hole in the side of this air passage. The bottom of the air vent will be about 1 foot above the waterline (so water shouldn't slash up into the fan area).
My question is, should I reduce from 3/4 inch lines at the bong, at the back of my comp, or should I replace the fittings on my blocks with 3/4 inch fittings? :slap: MMM redrill and tap...
I was gonna use 3/4 inch pvc pipe to go up from the pump to the outlet in the bong, and haven't desided if I should use 1/2 inch line from it to the comp, or use a reducer nipple as a bulkhead fitting in the back of my comp. OR, should I use 3/4 inch to a manifold in my comp and run 1/2 inch to the CPU and GPU blocks in parralell? (That seems like a bad idea to me)
No it doesn't, but in this case it is recommened. Since you would have to have a hole very low down in the res and that is a place for a possilbe leak. 10+ gal on the floor is not a pretty picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gimmpy224
hooter'Tbc: I would recommend going with the 3/4" PVC to the outlet then dropping to 1/2" tubing from there to the computer. 1/2" tubing is alot more flexable than 3/4", if you have to move your computer a little bit.
Time i joined in in this fun. been a fan of bong cooling for years.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...olingtower.jpg
some pictures of old bong tower
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/IMAG0013.jpg
New tower built and running 5 foot tall black pvc with 120mm delta gonna help me hit 3122 stable
will take pictures when cam batteries are charged, its late and i got work at 6.30 am
Wow, bong really looks fun and very good for keeping your processors and gpu's really cool. I have seen people mention it and next I got some pics of huge PVC installations, but I just wasn't understanding what the hell they were doing.
So, this is what I understand from it for now. U get a good pump and pump your water true your rig all the way up to the shower head. With the shower head we get low pressured water wich is easier to evaporate. Faling down in small droplets inside the PVC increases the evaporation proces, removing any heat the water was containing, and the longer it has to fall down, the more heat gets removed. This will get u back to ambient if u do it right. But, due to the small droplets and the the water still falling down, it get's the change to evaporate even more, and so get below ambient temps.
A conclusion I made is that u should never use a closed pvc tube because otherwise u wont get any heat out of the system. Remeber, the pvc tube reacts like your radiator, and that's the only way to get away the heat, just by blowing it out of the tube.
I think with huge bongs it just might be better to just have some low rpm fans just to remove heat from your hardware upstairs and not heat op the below ambient particles as little as possible.
What do u think guys, and maybe some notes on parts I might be misunderstanding. This is so easy to built, maybe I just use this for cooling my TEC when benching. Also, when building a huge bong I just think it's better to have a second waterloop just because of the heatload of the pump, and maybe the flow isn't that good either too when u first have to pass multiple waterblocks and then get 7 feet up.
maybe the flow isn't that good either too when u first have to pass multiple waterblocks and then get 7 feet up.
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twin pumps works for me and as for the added heat load well made bong have huge cooling power mine gives me condensation problems on the cpu gpu and northbridge waterblocks such it its power.
Hoping i get a new digi cam for xmas so i can take a photo of it ;)
Would be nice ACID. I'm thinking of writing a tutorial in dutch language about this, not much people know this kind of cooling in our regions. O yea, this should be sticky too :) I have been looking into this section for threads about bongs but never saw one, until I yesterday used the Magical Search Button.
I had no idee that thing even worked, applause for XS :p
Look what I found on the internet last night:
http://www.ku74.net/uberbong/
:banana:
"Currently evaporative cooler actually lowers room temperature. "
:eek:
i need that, as my family likes to keep the house at 80*F for some reason.. and opening the window when it's 32*F makes me freeze my ass off. not to mention the weather will jump into the 90's out of nowhere cuz it's east texas :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by wittekakker
Has been some renewed interest over at OCAU recently
with regards to bong coolers, as I have always
had an interest in them since 2002 I thought I would hunt
about for some ideas and stumbled upon this thread, There
is a cooler a fellow OCAu member has built I thought
would be a good addition to this thread and be of interest to
those looking to get a bong cooler past the missus
so I joined up to post the pics for you all -->
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/snapp..._bong_pics.jpg
Click here for full size pics
I came across the "uber bong" myself this morning and have to say it's
awesome and something I'm keen to replicate with the addition
of this base from the bong on OCAU.
Having made my own water blocks and done several pump conversions
i thought this would be my next little project.
Excellent thread anywayz fellas :-)
Very nice uber bong. It took a long time, but someone actualy built a bong that might make more noise than mine did. I settled on a pump I took out of my neighbors hot tub to move the water, ran 1 inch line to the bong outlet, then 3/4 inch to the back of the comp, and 1/2 from there through the Swifty 6002 block, and back to the showerhead. The noise level was like being in a tin building in a monsoon.
I had loud poping sounds and smoke with-in 3 hours. I found condensation like mad. This thing went sub-ambient in no time. The warranty on my mobo didn't cover water damage, so I got to rebuild. The bong is on my side yard now, and I am back to air cooling. I may get a swifty set-up this winter, and break the bong back out when summer hits. I am thinking of running the water through a radiator in the comp case before the water block, kind of a pre-heater to lower the case temp and raise the water temp just a tad. What do you guys think?