@andersson & exa: Yes, well. I wanted to get a BIP for that test, as it would have "completed" the BI family. Couldn't get a .3 here, sadly. CW would have been even harder to get, maybe I can add that in the future.
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@andersson & exa: Yes, well. I wanted to get a BIP for that test, as it would have "completed" the BI family. Couldn't get a .3 here, sadly. CW would have been even harder to get, maybe I can add that in the future.
if you should get a hold of a pro3, would it be "easy" to test it and put the result
in the list with the other?
DangerDen now has PA120.3s back in stock. I jus' ordered mine. Now I'll read up on Radicals post. But I'm pretty sure I done good.(Thanks "Marci")
Edit: Thanks Radical53. My Storm will love this rad. I don't guess the extra heat my pump puts out is gonna' hurt anything.(Heh)
@exa: Depends on how long it'd take :) Right now, I've still got the exact same system running. But as soon as I change something, it wouldn't be comparable 1:1. That's why I tried to get a hold of as many good rads as possible when I did the test.
dang, you shold get ahold of one before you change something. to bad i use mine now... somebody should be able to borrow you one!
Already borrowed the Extreme, came from Jupiler :D I was quite disapointed not to get a Pro in the first place, as the comparison with the GT would have been very interesting. Same thing every time, some interesting part is always missing...
i´, quite surprised as the watercool htf3 showed the 2nd lowest restrictivity and it is a condesnser-style rad, so it was too early too call this thingies the most restrictive rads (maybe the mora isn´t that bad, anyone should try it:stick: )
*nod* I'd be interested in seeing more condenser-style rad tests. I suspect you'll find that their performance drops sharply as airflow goes up, for the same reason why pull is better: thanks to air's low viscosity, rads dont really like turbulent airflow, and circular-section tubes like those in condenser rads create a considerable turbulence shadow on the fin area behind them.
i only thought about water restriction:p: , the test shows clearly that the high fin-density preventy the rad from being competitive, but i was surprised by the small flow-restrictionQuote:
Originally Posted by creidiki
well, the restriction of a condenser rad is drectly related to the number of passes and the radius of the turns.
The HTF3 has his 27m of copper tubing divided on 3x9m, so that's maybe why it's not as restrictive as one may think. Other rads, like the AC evo or the Mora, are restrictive as hell.
And just as creidiki said, that's also what my test showed, they don't perform well with high air flow. So you get some quite good performance with low air flow and also low water flow, but you can't increase that really. With a heater core style, you can increase the performance it has, not so with a condenser.
So for better car heating performance I should shove a PC cooling rad in there? LOL.
Good thread back to top with you!
I was just curious, if anyone knew: Which Yate fans did Radical_53 use for the temp tests: The D12SM or the D12SL?
He used SLs :)
That's very impressive, considering that the SL's are rated at 47 CFM @1650RPM. They must have only been pulling, what, 40CFM? And they achieved coolant temps within 4deg of ambient.
The Swiftech rad also seemed to gain some ground as the airflow got higher, which is very encouraging for me, since the MCR series is more within my price range. Being in NA sucks if you want exotic EU computer parts.
sl is 47cfm\1350\28db
sm is 70cfm\1650\33db
I bought about 10 of the SLs and put them throughout my case. They just didnt push enough air, my case temps were higher and everything was hotter. Being that my rad is floor mounted in my case I can run the stock Lian Li fans which are 75 CFM at 100% and due to location I cannot hear them. The other fans are also higher CFM and on a fan controller.
Sure they are quiet, but I wasn't impressed with performance.
Sounds like you had it imbalanced with more inlets than outlets...
yeah. i got 3 yates in my case(+psu) and i get better temps overall with my door on than off....
Hey Guys,
I've spent the last couple days researching different radiators on the market and the PA120.3 truely seems to have the best specs, and should match decenlty with my current watercooling hardware (HW Labs BIP.3 w/3x YS Tech 120mm x 38mm fans @ 5v, Swiftech MCP655 pump, DD Maze4 GPU block, the older A64 Swiftech 6002 CPU block, and last but not least I'm running Primoflex 1/2" ID tubing all around)!
The only problem is that I can't find a US distributor where I can buy the radiator, someplace reputable if possible? If anyone has any idea's please fill me in. And yet I've done both google and yahoo searches on it, although there were tons of hits most are across the ocean and not here!
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Originally Posted by Roger_D25
http://www.thermochill.com/retailers.php
It's in stock at Performance Pcs http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=3944
OP edited to include Addendum - Oct 2006: ThermoChill PA120.2 vs Swiftech MCR320 - double vs triple...
Any reason why a PA160 wasn't included in these Independent tests ?
Cos the guy doing the testing doesn't have one. Sure if you offered to buy one and send it to him to test he wouldn't say no.