New OCZ BH-5 and VX , what to expect

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03-23-2005, 03:36 PM
Tony

http://www.ocztechnology.com/aboutocz/press/2005/129

Stores will have it soon ;)
03-23-2005, 03:56 PM
c7775

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanpgroovy

We should have a fair amount of VX memory avaible in the UK , so I will check with the sales dept on this .

as far as releasing a really high bin , We basicaly thought VX 4000 was as high as we could go , the problem being we have to do something with the chips that dont do the spec ( we cant put them into 3200VX as that would cause an uproar) , so they need to go to one of the non VX value products ) and if less that a certain quantity ( say 15%) pass the spec we have a whole lot of pretty good memory we have to sell at less that our cost to test and manufacture it ( hand testing is quite expensive in the US )

mate i know testing it expensive over there, so i propose you send me ALL Your memory modules and ill personally test each one of them and then sell.... eh send them back to you :cord:
03-23-2005, 04:31 PM
Nanobot

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtoe

http://www.ocztechnology.com/aboutocz/press/2005/129

Stores will have it soon ;)

Great news !

But warranty up to 2.8v max for BH-5 is quite low ?!

FYI: here's the PN from the product page above: OCZ4001024ELDCGE-K OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Dual Channel Gold
03-23-2005, 04:37 PM
HiJon89

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nanobot

Great news !

But warranty up to 2.8v max for BH-5 is quite low ?!

FYI: here's the PN from the product page above: OCZ4001024ELDCGE-K OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Dual Channel Gold

The warranty is for 3.0V +/- 5% = 3.15V
03-23-2005, 04:55 PM
Nanobot

My bad :doh: I read the left tree info,didn't see the small caption at the bottom.

3.0v is still low for BH-5.

Why give VX gold 3.5V ± 5% and give BH-5 only 3.0v ± 5% :confused:

Must be because of a new smaller winbond die ?
03-23-2005, 05:17 PM
iddqd

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinkgai

yes that would be best....for us overclockers

how profitable would that be? thats another story

the way you are imagining it is just too labor intensive to be very profitable...they are based in sunnyvale CA, not india or china where labor is dirt cheap...we have minimum wage laws here (currently 6.75USD) and im SURE ocz isnt paying their employees that. while ocz is big, they arent huge like amd or intel.

also, by impossible...he probably knows the yields better than you and i

it must be a pretty low percentage for them to not go with it...or else which manufacturer wouldnt want to have the performance crown and do as you say? its just not how a business is run...you have to talk about profit margins and economies of scale and different market sectors and all that other fun stuff

we are a niche market, not the only market which ocz caters to

Making computer parts in the U.S.? That's just silly. Nobody does that... :stick:

Besides, if they're going to make enthusiast-grade parts, at least do it right. Nobody wants crappy BH-5.
03-23-2005, 05:31 PM
navahoo

where do i get these "Value VX"?!
and i also didn´t find any product page of them at ocz website...
03-23-2005, 07:29 PM
babyelf

omg... new PCB?

still choosing between 3200vx or 4000vx ... now i have to add 3200gold and "wonder pcb" into account.

damn
03-23-2005, 07:47 PM
MaZeR

OCZ guys, how does this new "BH" ram perform at high voltage say, 3.4+? Is it still hit and miss performance like BH-5 was?
03-23-2005, 08:07 PM
iddqd

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyelf

omg... new PCB?

still choosing between 3200vx or 4000vx ... now i have to add 3200gold and "wonder pcb" into account.

damn

I'm guessing something that will implement their ZB chip.
03-23-2005, 08:27 PM
wfarid

I heart OCZ, when a lot of mem companies are shifting focusing on ddr2 ram, ocz is still keeping it real and recognizing the huge market the ddr1 that is here and will continue to be here for a while... And I'll def be anticipating ur new wonder pcb... :slobber:
03-24-2005, 12:04 AM
enzoR

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaZeR

OCZ guys, how does this new "BH" ram perform at high voltage say, 3.4+? Is it still hit and miss performance like BH-5 was?

i would like to know aswell.
03-24-2005, 06:52 AM
ooztuncer

kinda off topic...

Hi all,
I have a quick question (especially to ryan because he started this thread). I also asked this question in the new ram list thread but I couldn't get an answer.

Can you also give some expectations-estimate speeds-with volts around this ram: http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...0+Dual+Channel

Is this same as "value vx"? I believe this particular module is using UTT, however I'm not sure... Thanks for your time.

Regards
03-24-2005, 09:43 AM
SLaY3r07

Quote:

Originally Posted by wfarid

I heart OCZ, when a lot of mem companies are shifting focusing on ddr2 ram, ocz is still keeping it real and recognizing the huge market the ddr1 that is here and will continue to be here for a while... And I'll def be anticipating ur new wonder pcb... :slobber:

Don't forget OCZ is teh own4g3 for DDR2 as well :banana:
03-24-2005, 10:43 AM
isp

If these guys outperform my VX for less money steam's gonna come out of my ears. :hehe:
Did I miss the MSRP of the 3200 gold?
03-24-2005, 11:35 AM
ryanpgroovy

I am not sure the top speed on the EL 3200 sorry
03-24-2005, 01:50 PM
navahoo

once again my question, are value and value vx the same and if not, where do i find the vx to buy and a productsite ... thx!
03-24-2005, 02:44 PM
ryanpgroovy

the value VX has a different part number / and is different

here you can find it here
http://www.atacom.com/program/print_...C2&USER_ID=www
03-24-2005, 02:57 PM
jjcom

Quote:

Originally Posted by ooztuncer

Hi all,
I have a quick question (especially to ryan because he started this thread). I also asked this question in the new ram list thread but I couldn't get an answer.

Can you also give some expectations-estimate speeds-with volts around this ram: http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...0+Dual+Channel

Is this same as "value vx"? I believe this particular module is using UTT, however I'm not sure... Thanks for your time.

Regards

I've got some of this, when I bought it, it was Hynix, but it could have changed by now. I can do 218mhz 2.5-3-3-10 with 2.8v,

jjcom
03-24-2005, 04:17 PM
navahoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanpgroovy

the value VX has a different part number / and is different

here you can find it here
http://www.atacom.com/program/print_...C2&USER_ID=www

thanks ryan, but how do i find out which one i´m going to buy?
what´s the special part number for vx?

i´m living in germany so i would prefer to order them here.
but i just found this here
http://www.cheeep.com/chips.php?op=m...213&SectionID=

may you have a look and thanks again for your help!!
03-24-2005, 04:39 PM
perkam

This isnt the Value VX thread Navahoo (cool name :up: ), that thread is over here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=54168

And thats where u can also find how to identify Value VX chips. Secondly, OOZTUNCER, you can check out the "New Ram List !!!" Sticky Thread in the Xtreme Bandwith forum where in the first posts there is info on all types of ram and any future questions you have about any particular ram can be answered there by the likes of Punisher et al.

More specifically, there is Mushkin Blue Line UTT and Twinmos SP UTT at lower prices than some value ram that will be cheaper than OCZ EL 3200 however, that is why there is Value VX ;) If you're not overclocking though, thats prolly pretty good ram.

BUT WHAT I WANT TO KNOW is whats the low down with the 3200 Gold...as in when is it coming out and will it have the same rarity as the Value VX ?

Perkam
03-24-2005, 04:39 PM
ArcTan

Quote:

Originally Posted by iddqd

I'm guessing something that will implement their ZB chip.

would ZB = zero bandwith? jks :D
03-24-2005, 04:49 PM
OCZEric

Quote:

Originally Posted by navahoo

thanks ryan, but how do i find out which one i´m going to buy?
what´s the special part number for vx?

i´m living in germany so i would prefer to order them here.
but i just found this here
http://www.cheeep.com/chips.php?op=m...213&SectionID=

may you have a look and thanks again for your help!!

Those are not the correct modules. I think it should be available at the link below soon, but it's in the Netherlands. Still closer than buying from the US though :)

http://www.icomputers.nl/product_det...776&SSS_ID=774

Hope this helps.

-Eric
03-24-2005, 05:34 PM
ooztuncer

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Secondly, OOZTUNCER, you can check out the "New Ram List !!!" Sticky Thread in the Xtreme Bandwith forum where in the first posts there is info on all types of ram and any future questions you have about any particular ram can be answered there by the likes of Punisher et al.

Thanks for the reply, though this is from my first post:

QUOTE: I also asked this question in the new ram list thread but I couldn't get an answer. QUOTE

Punisher also doesn't know, however perhaps you are correct I shouldn't ask this question here... BTW, thanks for the information jjcom...

continue...
03-24-2005, 07:26 PM
skate2snow

Hey Ryan, you know when we should have more info about Zero Buffer technology and what will be the first models to be built on that tech? And will you be selling that PCB design or keep it for OCZ alone?

Thanks,
Mathieu Aucoin

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