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you SHOULD be looking out for Conroe :) , similar to Yonah but designed from the ground up for desktop use with 64bit enabled :D (please correct me if i am wrong)Quote:
Originally Posted by Northwood
also, regarding intel regaining enthusiast populatirty all in one fell swoop :rolleyes: , i VERY much doubt it, intel have become Sooooo good at snatching defeat from the jaws of success to start changing overnight :stick:
I saw this on tech report the other day, I have to say it seems pretty cool. Figures they'd come out with something like this after I sell my P4P800 rig.
What? You dare question AMD? Fool. You cannot possibly comprehend what powers you toy with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky 4 Finger
RELEASE THE PIG.
;) ;)
But personally, I don't think Winchesters live up to their hype... I mean, they're better than NewCastles (although there are many NC's that can break 2.8GHz) but ClawHammer still reigns supreme.
Either way, a P6-architecture rig should blow away most AMD chips in gaming.
How about the Banias? I see them go for $50 on ebay all the time for a 1.4ghz, and with this adaptor for $50 or under that'd be $100 for the combo. Can the Banias overclock at all, or is it not even worth the time and I should just look at the Dothan from the start?
I don't want the P-M to have similar specs to our desktop processors. The processor is trying to be completely different and run at very low FSB and still be very competitive. They should focus on as much performance for as little mhz as possible...........and leave it upto us to jack up the mhz. ;)
The Banias tends to max out around 2ghz. It's just a limitation of the .13 micron design.
theinq talks about p-m EE and 64bit p-m: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21666
as far as i understand - pm EE is yonah without low TDP limit.
i really hope that it's compatible with this adapter :)
it wont be...
this combo is EXACTLY what most ppl want for SFF :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxie3a
And for everyone who wants to mount something else than a P4 bracket will have some trouble, two of the holes are covered...
:mad:
http://img.hexus.net/v2/internationa...daptor_big.jpg
damn :( then its no point in buying a CT-479..
huh? They're there I think. Just hidden in the photo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
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Originally Posted by Xassius
http://www.matbe.com/images/biblio/c...0000004236.jpg
won't you be able to put on most normal heatsinks with the p4 mounting bracket?
Yes you can, but not in this case (some guys here want to use some hardcore cooling that won't use the bracket). As for air cooling, you still have problems. The adapter is about 8 mm high, which makes things very complicated. Almost none of the standard P4 coolers will fit without modding. Would be sweet if they included a higher bracket, but I doubt it since they include a fan that fits. Another problem is the power connector, it's quite much in the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by nathan400
The best thing I can come up with is to use a Zalman 7x00 with the metal pieces upside down, which actually makes it 18 mm higher which is too much. To compensate this you put a piece of metal of right thickness between the sink and the clip, just like some do with other mobiles.
Isn't that bracket in the pic extra high?
^maybe an XP-90 with the retention clips bent up a bit would work?
Watercooling should be ok though right? Adjustable spring tension on most blocks...
Cheers,
Suman
Thats what I was thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
You'd have to be real careful about not crushing the core though...
No overclocking + cooling complications though... might be better just to sell your ASUS board and get an AOpen or DFI socket 479 board... like a lot better...
Looks like they will make it work with Asus P4GD1 (Intel 915P, PCIE, DDR2)
heres some pics I found from THG CEBIT coverage.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=26783&stc=1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=26784&stc=1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=26785&stc=1
More info.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=178
The CT-479 seen above actually has a quite a bit more to it than one might expect. Since the adapter will not allow a standard socket 478 heat sink to be used ASUS provides one with the kit. The blue jumpers are to adjust the FSB (front-side-bus) for CPU support. Depending on which Pentium M is purchased, users can select bus frequency of 533MHz or 400MHz via the jumpers. Also of special note is the power header for the heat sink fan that draws off the socket. Can't say that I have seen that before, but with Intel 755 CPU's only needing 1.34V and the i865/i875 boards offering much higher voltages they should have no problem with the power draw.
To use the CT-479, consumers must first flash their motherboard's BIOS to ensure compatibility. As ASUS refines their motherboard BIOS' to support of this adapter, more ASUS (and maybe other brands) socket 478 motherboards will support this kit. Right now the ASUS P4P800 SE and P4P800-VM are the only motherboards that are supported. The ASUS PC4800E will be the next motherboard to work with the CT-479, and eventually most, if not all, ASUS i865/i875 boards should be supported.
so the voltage controller is onboard so to speak, that sould provide easy vcore moddin' :) however the fact that the FSB is decided by a jumper, not by the mobo makes me wonder if it will be controllable, is the FSB clockgen also on the expansion board ? Perhaps ths too could lead to a mod???? I recall seeing vry high res photos of the board may have a search for them and see if any of the IC's match up...
http://www.x86-secret.com/pics/news/q105/ct479-2b.jpg
Anyone make out the model number on the chip in the top right hand corner, the top left is an op-amp and the two on the right are for GTL/TTL processor signalling. I suspect the one at the top may have somthing to go with the clock
Well you've got more combinations with the FSB jumpers than two. If they just wanted 400 or 533 FSB to choose between they only needed a 1x3 pin jumper. A CPU with the BSel pin removed detects as a 800 FSB CPU by the motherboard, so what happens if you remove one or both of the jumpers? Maybe you won't get any signal to the BSel = 800 MHz FSB... (pure speculation, of course!!)
that would be cool if the chip could run that, odds are it will take a bit more then pulling the jumper to get that thing to boot at 200... we shall see though.