Guide To WaterCooling and Leak Testing - ALL New WaterCooler's Read Before Posting!

zabomb, as bloody pointed out, you are just not reading the information correctly.

head pressure of the pump, and the system pressure are two entirely different things.

I said 100CFM fans.. not 100CFM through the rad.. If you can get 100CFM through a heatercore.. well more power to you.. but if you did you would need one seriously powerful axial fan or a good blower fan.

but in the same regards, the HE series rads are very airflow restrictive.. I dont remmeber the exact number, but the FPI is in the 20's when I measured Noldor's 120.3.

In my experience I have been able to get a bit more performance out of the 2-199 than the BIX, but its not a huge difference.

for moonlights sake, I will do a comparative test between the two..

i really wished i came across this guide when i was starting.

in terms of element (gpu block, cpu block, radiator(s), pump, etc.) placement i see from the above that maxx recommends Pump>Radiator>CPU>GPU(if implemented)>NB(if implemented)>Reservoir where the person in the dangerden instructional videos says he always goes pump to inlet of TDX. So i'm curious:

1. is this just TDX specific?
2. why?
3. does placement of elements in the loop determine the quality of cooling for that element, and if so how would ascertain how to reach the maximum cooling for a given setup? (WLOG: is this really determined by the shortest run of tubing?)

The above questions presume no 90 degree turns and the loop includes a T-line instead of a reservoir.

1. The TDX is not specific and it does NOT matter for the TDX or any other block wether it is pump - rad - block or pump - block - rad. The slight performance winner is pump - rad -block merely becasue the heat of the pump is disipated by the rad before it gets to the waterblock. So in short, the way DD suggets will hurt u by .01C or something really rediculously small.

2. Answered by #1

3. placement and tubing lenght are the only variables for a given loop at a given temp and given heat load.. plain and simple.

THis is great!!!! I had my system planned out in my head BEFORE I read through this entire post!!! And I was actually pretty darn close to the recommendations listed through out it!!!!Only thing I have a question about now is where am I going to come up with the $$$$$ to pay for it all!!!...lol...oh well time to sell more stocks I guess...lolol...But I do have one question concerning the reservoir/fill tube topic. DD has a fillport-reservoir that is used in a "T-Line" configuration ( http://www.dangerdenstore.com/files/...ill_system.jpg )isn't this defeating the purpose of a reservoir in the first place? since there is no return line to it? Or is this really just a "modified fill tube"???? Another question would this kind of reservoir make it "easier" to bleed the cooling system of trapped fiendish air pockets???? And thanks for the original post/guide VERY helpful in making my final component choices!!!!!

The "res" in that picture isnt really a res(as normally used in a WC'ing system).. im not sure what to call it.. Totaly useless if u ask me.

I brought a couple bottles of "whitewine vinegar", closest thing I could find to white vinegar. No store seems to have just white vinegar so I guess it's the same? When I've cleaned everything according to this guide I'll use alphacools Cleaning agent unless anyone has any good reason why I shouldn't use it?

I also got a filter but they didn't have any finer filter than 20 micron but I think it should be enough?

20 microns should be enough.. the 5 micron filter I got was just to be extra paranoid.

that stuff looks really good.. almost looks like CLR.. kinda expensive for 50ml though..

I do suggest a good run of distilled water after you use that cleaning agent, as I would suggest with ANY cleaning agent.. water is really the only thing u want flowing through the loop if at all possible (assuming a non mixed metal environment)

whitewine vinegar... never heard of such a thing so I cannot comment.

White wine vinegar IS white vinegar guys...

That is what we mean by white vinegar, white wine vinegar :D

According to a dictionary vinegar is "ätticka" in swedish so I brought a couple bottles of that today.

thanks ppk... useful info there.

Eccellent guide :)
I'm going back to check for updates from time to time.

The radiators with flat tubes are?
PA, BIP, MCP?

All rads from thermochill, hwlabs, coolingworks, and swiftech are flat tubes. That is to say their current rads are. swiftech had some old rads that didnt have flat tubes IIRC.

I update it on a fairly regular basis as I learn new things and/or repeatedly get asked a question.. The repeated question obvsiously ends up in the guide so that I dont have to parrot myself.

any suggestions on cleaning tubing b4 installation?

Personally I dont clean the tubing as its meant for food products and therefore needs to be REALLY clean before it gets to you..

BUT if you want to clean it just run some distilled water through it.

hi, i´m on my setting up water-cooling, but there´s one small problem

like MaxxxRacer mentioned, the best loop order would be reservoir>pump>rad>block>reservoir ... which seems logical

but to keep my hoses of the cooling sys as short as possible, the loop would be: reservoir>pump>cpu block>rad>reservoir
the reservoir and radiator are outside of the case (not enough room in tsunami case)

and question is: how much performance would i lose by doing that?

components:

watercool heatkiller 2.5 block
alphacool ap910 pump
black ice pro III rad
alphacool coolplex 25 reservoir
1/4" fittings... OD10mm/ID8mm hoses

almost none.. just however much the pump heats the water. it will be less than .1C assuming 3LPM (im assuming u know litres and not gallons) and less than 20watt heat dump from the pump.

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Originally Posted by ppkstat

White wine vinegar IS white vinegar guys...

That is what we mean by white vinegar, white wine vinegar :D

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It's not.

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So-called "white vinegar" (actually clear) can be made by oxidating a distilled alcohol. Alternatively, it may be nothing more than a solution of acetic acid in water. It is used for culinary as well as cleaning purposes.

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From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinegar#White

soo can i use white vine?

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The "res" in that picture isnt really a res(as normally used in a WC'ing system).. im not sure what to call it.. Totaly useless if u ask me.

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just for lazy people who doesnt want to refill that often!

More like for people who manage to go for more than 3 month without pulling their loop apart... my t-line is usually 3/4 full when i rebuild...

so shorter tubing means better cooling...because water is cooled in shorter time???

what lengths cause cooling issue...does a 3foot overall tubing loop do worse than say 5 ft..using below

P180
PA160
D5/MCP655
storm rev 2
mcw60
reservoir

no, because tubing causes restriction

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Originally Posted by creidiki

no, because tubing causes restriction

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Ok..restriction=resistance???...my physics sucks been too long..

so shortest loop possible is best so long a no kinks etc

restriction, resistance... the correct term is pressure drop, actually...

yup, shortest loop always wins.