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Originally Posted by QerryTerry
He works for twinmos so i dont think he bought it any where.
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Originally Posted by QerryTerry
He works for twinmos so i dont think he bought it any where.
Great news. Hope they are performing on par with the good old BH-5 at least! :D
@ Rabbi_NZ , i remember ppl saying that 512mb sticks of BH-5 didn't oc as well as 256mb. i dunno the actual reason why, but it was an known issue.
only some few 512mb sticks managed to oc as the 256mb... the thing is, i bet we won't see this happening with these new BH-5 UTT. ;)
PS: i noticed now... Corsair pc3500... they had to do well at 245mhz @ 3.2v mate. :p:
remember this TwinMOS are rated pc3200 with 5ns chips.
let's wait for more testing from Alonso! :toast:
DDR400 is -5ns, just like DDR500 is -4ns if i understand correctly...Quote:
Originally Posted by enok
but im crossing my fingers about 2x512mb as well, im hoping that the new PCB makes it overclock better with 512mb sticks, memory controllers have also came a long way since that time.
I would love to throw some of this new BH5 at my 3.0E! Sadly I've got to wait for something like Hipro5's Maximizer before I can even think about better RAM. :/
i can proof that... corsair had built the best bh-5 dimms on the market. Mine have done 245@ 2-2-2-11-1t on nf7-s 2.0 with dirty punk... but now my corsair is going to r.i.p. it doesnt like high voltages any more, and it brings up errors in memtest with stock speed/timings. BUT! I've ordered TwinMOS SP UTT :) i will give infos about max clock.... I will ship my old corsair for rma...
EDIT:
for all who understand german :)
http://www.stock-world.de/detail/new...age=1&a=623100
I would have to disagree and say OCZ PC3500 Platinum Limited Edition is the best BH-5 ever made, BH-5 on a BrainPower PCB :slobber: Its impossible to find but I saw 1GB of it sell for $400 almost instantly. I'm still searching for some, PM if you're willing to sell some!
BP pcb gave no extra to CH-5 UTT.. it would be nice to see it with BH-5 UTT.
every module that was ever made using BH5 had 5ns chips ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by enok
I have to diagree, you obviously never tried to make the damn stuff work on an Nforce2 Ultra 400 mobo :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by HiJon89
I've only seen a couple people with 1GB PC3500 Platinum LE kits but from what I've seen they've all reached 250FSB 2-2-2-5 with 3.3V or less, something no other manufacturers' BH-5 could do consistently.Quote:
Originally Posted by GazC
But with A64 I assume... no nforce2 board, no via kt333/400/600 board could use their "potential"... why that? I would not consider that the best memory made. Remember the hyperx 3200 bh-5 I have, those sticks are great on p4, a64 and nf2 etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by HiJon89
Go figure.
Yea, KHX BH5 beats Corsair BH5 on average in terms of oc. The KHX PCB was custom for BH5 chips and it showed.
OCZ and Mushkin L2 Black are at the top of the heap in terms of best BH5, but OCZ PC3500 Platinum LE takes the crown. :)
KHX PCB is standard JDEC PCD :D ;)
Nope, modified JEDEC. :rolleyes:
EDIT: The chips on KHX even have more leads going to them then the BH5 on other sticks. I have some KHX 3000 BH5 in front of me right now.
it's a known CHIPSET issue... 2x512 BH5 does jus fine on a good mobo/cpu comboQuote:
Originally Posted by enok
The only reason 2x512 oc's worse than 2x256 is because there are twice as many chips being overclocked. So your chances are less, plus it puts more stress on the pcb. However, this isn't a huge deal, on average your oc's will be 5-10mhz less at most I would think. And Yes, it is a chipset limitation, people say this from the nforce 2 days when it didn't like 2x512, and also same situation with 2x512 an 1t timings.
NForce2 does have a wall with 512M "double sided" sticks. Further the BH5's had a 2T limitation ....ie:
The Twinmos UTT 2x 512M are running just fine 1T, get same max FSB/Voltage whether set to 1T or 2T actually. But bandwidth results are higher with 1T, of course. Wall at 245Mhz, regardless of CPC.
The BH5 2x 512Mhowever wont run 1T at the same high FSB, 2T it runs fine and hits the exact same wall. In my case, 245Mhz.
2x 256M is a whole different issue. I dont have 256M sticks of BH5 or UTT but my 2x 256M "old" CH5 does 245Mhz and each stick alone breaks 250Mhz. People have gotten HUGE FSB results from 256M sticks of BH5...Ive seen as high as 280-290Mhz on NForce2.
So there is definitely something in the physically in the chipset or in unknown settings that put a severe limitation on 512M stick results....even though the EXACT same chips/settings on 256M stick hit 10-20-30Mhz higher.
Whther this is due strictly to the extra 16 memory chips loaidng the bus beyond the ability of the NF2 northbridge to drive, or there is some setting left un-altered by any known bios/tweaker that NEEDS to be changed to make double-banked operation happy.... beats me.
Ex: what if bank-interleave was going on, set by default in all the bios's of NF2 market, and noone ever knew it or ever altered the setting. notice how bank-interleaving setting in the new DFI-SLI bios has a drastic effect.... makes you think, obviously the NF2 can handle high FSB.... ask Macci, LastViking, etc.
It all goes back to NVidia's secrecy, even on a "dead" product. Release the damn data manual on the chipset and we will very quickly get to the bottom of what the ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM is out of the NForce2. As it is, on things like the NF7-S, I cant even LOOSEN the Alpha timings in the bios, so I have to BOOT slower than I should, tweak the Alpha's with WPCRSET and then up the speed in Clockgen. And that is a group of settings we KNOW about.
All a moot point, just buy a damn A64 board and forget about NF2 once and for all...at least thats my plan. And now I have 2Gigs of Identical UTT that will get me to my HAPPY PLACE :banana:
EDIT: Forgot to note, single stick of BH5 actually does 252Mhz max in the NF7-S, but I have to raise FSB after WPCRSET loosens the Alpha's to 5,4,6,3,3,4,5
from the tight default coded in the Abit bios. TicTac looked into fixing the Alpha's but it proved too intricate a change. I look forward to TicTac's results on 256M sticks of UTT in Infinity board.
uwackme, try to lauch a team of special forces to get you the data sheets ... ;)
:CTF:
ya but the point i was highlighting was, Corsair was rated pc3500 and not pc3200. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ
excuse me... but wth is brainpower pcb and what is the difference to "standard" pcb's ?
mfg
i tried to get some today and went at least into 10 shops but couldn'd find any!
bh5 got a bad rap for not doing 1t with 1gb kits because of the nf2 memory controller. once more people start dusting off their sticks and making them scream in a nf4 board we'll see some (more) awesome results.
khx did worse than corsair or mushkin, in my experience. i had pc3000, pc3200, and pc3500 bh5 in my dfi infinity, and corsair and mushkin hit 5-15 mhz higher every time. I've just started playing with nf2 again (got a lanpartyB) and I've made my sticks do 34s superpi, 245mhz 2-2-2-11 cpc on. That's 3.3v. Cpc off they do 260+ easily, but that's where the board maxes out. Once I get some longer bolts I can mount a tec on the nb and see if that helps.
as much as i'm dying to upgrade to dfi nf4 I can't afford mobo, cpu, and video card all at once. if dfi releases a 939 pin nf3 mobo I'll be all over it. so, unfortuanly i can't go proving how well 1gb kit will do in better platform :(
anywho, looking forward to this new bh-5, but if it doesn't show improvement over old stuff might have to wait for D :)
mine are standard JEDEC. whats different about yours then?Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
i thought BH5 had 66pins iirc. how can it have more? thats interesting. could you maybe post some pics so i can comapre them to mines?
im in ... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SAE