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sky,
Is that testing feature built into atitool? Thats the same method I use with rivatuner, only it takes about 2 hours to find the max stable oc for the core and ram.
I just checked fedex, and my card was delivered to my house around noon, so I should have benches up of the core watercooled by tonight or tomorrow. Thank god I take fridays off work, lol :D
well it's built into that atitool. you can grab it here, latest version is 1-7.Quote:
Originally posted by Gogeta
sky,
Is that testing feature built into atitool? Thats the same method I use with rivatuner, only it takes about 2 hours to find the max stable oc for the core and ram.
I just checked fedex, and my card was delivered to my house around noon, so I should have benches up of the core watercooled by tonight or tomorrow. Thank god I take fridays off work, lol :D
thing is that test is somewhat dopey but pff.. so i made it start at 200 and let it go upwards - running heatcylces that lasted longer with every 20 mhz increase or so. so it went up to 423 on the core and reported an error, then it slowly started going down until no errors were reported. when after another heatup-cycle there were no errors for some minutes, i cancelled it (i don't have all day... ;) ) and went to do the same with the memory, which took another 23-25mins (25 on the core as it got higher clocks then the memory).
that tool has an artifact tester included aswell, but that one is dopey, since my card would get no error for 0.02 (or so) seconds at default pro speeds (378/337.5) and with decreasing speeds (like downto 300/300) it wouldn't give a me a "no errors" for more than the above 0.02sec! starting from the bottom up i could get past 300/300 no fuss - so that tool must be a little stupid or sth :D. and my opinion on this last bit is further secured by the fact that neither aquamark nor 3d2k1+3 gave me artifacts at clockspeeds ABOVE default pro speeds! (strange, eh?)
anyway looking forward to seeing your benches when they come! good luck!
Looking forward to seeing your watercooling results. Kind of makes me wish I would have held off on getting the 9800 pro 128 meg last week. On water I'm only artifact free at 424 on the core, but the hynix memory is a good clocker. Have it up to 390.60 in Rad Linker so far. Want to get some heatsinks for it before I push it more. The ram gets pretty hot when gaming or benching.
But anyhow, please do post your oc results on these relabelled XTs (very cool, and I'm happy for you guys) once you get at least some water on it. (I didn't think anybody around here used air for anything! ;) )
short update.. modded the ati-9800xt 25-hynix bios to default pro-core speeds, installed cat 4.2 instead of 3.9 (used before) and did some ati-tool testing. max speeds for both dropped :( but now i got temp-monitoring and running 412/365 game me a whooping a** 68°C (after about 3mins of running ati-artifact tester) on plain air with stock heatsink and all.. so that isn't really up to par. i guess i gotta get that chiller of mine up and running - and fast! :D
/update
installed cat 3.9 again - temps dropped from 68°C to 44°C full load (39°C idle). max core went up to 424, max stable core around the same as before the flash - hmm curious what will happen if i use the unmodded 9800xt hynix bios? ,)
also wondering what it is / ati did in the newer catalyst that temps are jumping by ~20°C. did they readjust the sensor to read high or stuff like that (hm too low sensor numbers rings a vapor bell hmmm :D )
im really waiting on someone to get some nice clocks with one of these, i mean my pro 500:400 is FAR faster than any of the clocks ive seen here so far
I jsut got my card in this morning, threw her in, was instantly recognized by Radlinker as an XT, runs perfectly at XT stock speeds. Right now I have it @ 440/375 with absolutely NO artifacts. Looped 3dm01 for 2 hours, just got home, still running flawlessly. Haven't flashed to XT bios yet. About to right now. Ill report back in a few minutes.
I came home from work today to find my card waiting for me at the door. :D So far all I've done is remove the stock heatsink and take some pictures, which I'll post later. The video card itself is in my freezer now, getting nice and cold so I can remove the shim. Going to install my new Fortron 530W PSU now, and hopefully the adjustable pots will have a nice effect on my memory OC. I'll post 3DMark links later tonight. :toast:
edit: Oh yeah, is
http://www.ocfaq.com/softmod/bios/AT...56.Hynix25.bin
the right BIOS file?
Flash successful. Before flash, 3dmark01 was 21k, after flash, with same clockrates, 3d mark went up 2k to 23,045. This is on an Athlon 64 3200 @ 2.4ghz with 2x512 BH-5 @ 200mhz 2-2-2-11 and 440/375 on the radeon.
Time to throw an athlon stock heatsink on this biatch and shoot for 500!
edit: yeah bro thats the bios I used. I have a question about ramsinks. Ive always bought those Tweakmonsters for a grip, what would you guys recommend for something a bit cheaper but just as effective? Any links would be greatly appreciated.
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7148 on 3dm03 @ 445/375
For ramsinks, I recommend cutting up an old heatsink you have laying around. You'll get longer fins, and will be a lot cheaper too. Plus you can custom fit them to sag over the edge of the chip a bit for better dissipation.
I have a question about the shim. Has anybody else tried removing theirs yet? I froze my card for about 2 hours and then tried to pry the shim off with a razor blade...the same way I got my 9700 Pro shim off. However, this one is being pretty stubborn and will hardly budge...
Card is back in the freezer "warming" up for round 2.
Have you bothered to check to see if the shim is actually higher than the core?
Butterknife and some kind of TIM or even just butter on the core may be enough to tell which is higher...
Please check to see if the core is higher with a lamp and straightedge. Rest the straightedge on edge on the core and hold the card up to a light. If you can see light between the straightedge and the shim when it's resting on the core your good....don't remove the thing as it won't help one bit and endangers your card.Quote:
Originally posted by Gogeta
For ramsinks, I recommend cutting up an old heatsink you have laying around. You'll get longer fins, and will be a lot cheaper too. Plus you can custom fit them to sag over the edge of the chip a bit for better dissipation.
I have a question about the shim. Has anybody else tried removing theirs yet? I froze my card for about 2 hours and then tried to pry the shim off with a razor blade...the same way I got my 9700 Pro shim off. However, this one is being pretty stubborn and will hardly budge...
Card is back in the freezer "warming" up for round 2.
All 9800 Pros I've seen make 110% solid core contact with a HSF.
See attached:
Why dont u just leave your card and try to take the shim off with ambient temps?Quote:
Originally posted by Gogeta
For ramsinks, I recommend cutting up an old heatsink you have laying around. You'll get longer fins, and will be a lot cheaper too. Plus you can custom fit them to sag over the edge of the chip a bit for better dissipation.
I have a question about the shim. Has anybody else tried removing theirs yet? I froze my card for about 2 hours and then tried to pry the shim off with a razor blade...the same way I got my 9700 Pro shim off. However, this one is being pretty stubborn and will hardly budge...
Card is back in the freezer "warming" up for round 2.
I took my rad 9800 pros shim easily with a razor blade like that.
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Oh yeah...I got one on the way too!!!
:bounces: :YIPPIE:
WTG Hollywooood!
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Well, I threw a new HSF on there, made perfect contact with little pressure.
Want more proof these things are really 9800 XTs?
I love it
Ok, now that I test it, the core is above the heatsink. Installing now along with new Fortron PSU. Thanks for the help.
Semper Fi: Awsome...thanks for the clear pic denoting the R360 core. Did you buy the retail one or OEM?
My 3dmark: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7592159
Gogeta: Glad to of helped. I'm not gonna rest until folks stop popping their shims off for no good reason.
I bought the OEM, I dont know why, probly should have gotten the retail for the warrenty... oh well
Damn dude look, our car chase low is exactly the same, and your nature run is .1 higher!
Thats why I posted it... ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Semper Fi
Damn dude look, our car chase low is exactly the same, and your nature run is .1 higher!
Nice overclock on the core there, semper fi. What kind of cooling are you using on it?
anyone tried aquamark yet? funny thing is with xt-bios and cat 4.2 i got artifacting (little white dots) at default pro speeds (that's with 68°C on the core) wtf?
semper fi, hollywood - nice clocks! hmm i'll continue testing over the weekend. if it doesn't fly like 450 or so i'm gonna return it and get another card :D
well i've flogged this card as hard i could with what i've got and here are my results:
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_vie...run=1081431104
3dmark03:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2133092
3dmark2k1:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7602559
semperfi, what camera did you use to take that pic?
Damn Bob, you got some good clocks outta that thing! Did you throw ram sinks on there already?
Im about to sink this fahker up in a few minutes, hopefully Ill be able to hit 390 on the mem.
1. Is the core clocking as well as the Pros?
2. Is the default vgpu 1.8v ala XT or was it put back to 1.7v ala Pro?
3. How is the memory overclocking? It says its the DDR2 stuff so I would expect this card to run around 400 without mods.
If its gonna clock better than a $225 Pro then I will grab one.
I was very happy when my RMAed 9700 Pro was replaced with a Sapphire 9800Pro and now I discover that it's really a 9800XT! How's that for a free upgrade?
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D