i'm asking myself if LGA improve something or not.
Just pins SAV ?
or better contacts, so better bus frequency ? And the one pin more in AM3+ is a bit strange, there is no technical data about it, i'm not the only one to want to know the technical reason, with the full details.
And what about the next chipset improvement, if the actual can do AM3+, why get a new one ?
Why not buy a C32 motherboard instead ?
Zambezi will not be LGA but PGA compliant,just like Phenom II. Socket is AM3+(Black),not C32. Box art is just that: box art. AMD was testing the market's response to new box designs and the FX LGA chip image is not the real Zambezi . But boxes do look very nice.
I don't care about boxes, give numberz more ... :D
I don't think we'll see any numbers (other than shady leaked ones that are more than likely made up) until closer to the launch. I think by mid-May the people who have NDAs will be dropping hints about performance, so we'll be able to tell if it's going to be a god or a dog.
yes!Quote:
Originally Posted by beepbeep2
Considering AMD has made PGA CPU's with the exact same type of heatspreader for over 7 years I don't see any reason at all why they would put an LGA CPU on the box :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
The opterons series are LGA now, so ...Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
C32 and G34 are, so it's an opteron with a FX sticker, we all know the only difference is the packaging, not the ship.
Four AMD Bulldozer Chips Incoming: Details Revealed.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis..._Revealed.html
Put me down for a FX-8110 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
Been holding off buying a SB rig, patiently waiting for Bulldozer to come out, I cant wait much longer!!!
As quoted in the article...."Four chips are not a large number and they will hardly be able to properly compete against rather huge Intel Core i7-series microprocessors, which includes quad-core and six-core offerings."Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
I guess XbitLabs has a crystal ball! :shocked:
Oh dear I hope we are not going to see lots of upset AMD fanboys in June :(
I fear the amount of hype this processor has had since the release of Conroe (and even before) may get your anticipation levels up to the point you expect to see Bulldozer completely bulldoze every CPU off the planet.
There is so much hype and fud bantered about the internet about the new AMD CPU's such as this.
I will repeat what I have always said about Bulldozer. Bulldozer will be the CPU which will either bring in a new era for AMD or make them be subject to a buyout. With so much hype behind the Bulldozer bandwagon AMD better deliver or face losing even more market share...and face.Quote:
My 1.6Ghz dual core zacarte laptop with a 5400rpm drive boots up windows 7 only 2 seconds slower than my 4.2Ghz i5 ssd setup
John
I doubt it because if a buyout was going to happen then it would of been done when they were doing much worse market wise with much worse products.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnZS
You don't have to be number one in the tech game to be viable business, you just have to have a worth while product at a worth while price.
And being good at what you do can also be a subject to a buyout
True, but my point is that Bulldozer might be an underwhelming flop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Final8ty
I just fear with so much hype going on for so long that AMD might be setting themselves up for a big fall.
Also some of the stuff people are saying on other forums now is ridiculous. E-350 faster than Sandybridge:confused:
John
If its a big flop then they will have allot to answer for.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnZS
The mainstream are nothing like people on this forum, they have much lower needs & expectations
Very true, so let us hope that for competition's sake and a competitive market place the Bulldozer at least meets half the hype :)
John
AMD Aims to Fight Core i7 “Sandy Bridge” with Bulldozer.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...Bulldozer.html
Probably not a very direct and accurate chart... but it seems AMD is aimng low - either in price or performance. 6 core BD against a 200$+ i7 2500K? :eek:
They obviously aren't fast enough to compete CPC or even single threaded in general if true. 8 core Bulldozer vs 4 core 2600K? I like the idea of 8 thread vs 8 thread but four cores or less utilization and Bulldozer will fail miserably? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthShader
...:shakes:
regardless they better deliver on price or their fujucked
Notice, that category is 700$+. That "+" might be crucial here. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
We already speculated that BD will probably not succeed in catching SB in pure single thread IPC.But when you speak of single threaded applications there is also clock speed question(turbo) and question about whether workload is integer of fp intensive.
BD is gonna to be way faster, or i don't buy a cpu and a mobo this year ... no doubt about this...
8 core Bulldozer 1,8Ghz and 2.0Ghz lol .
hm, I think, this is not about permormance against SB 2600k, kts only overall price position for desktop pc.
Considering they position the 4core BD slighlty below 2500 (4c/4T) it would seem very strange that an 8core BD would only gain <30% in heavy threaded applications where the 2600 would be faster then the 2500. This to me indicates that they will give similar performance at a lower price. so the 4core should compete with the 2500 with a lower price. the 6core with the 2600 with a lower price and the 8core with whatever with the price around the 2600. (the graphic is about price and not performance).Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
llano will be cheap for what it is delivering!