Outside of PCP&C, Fortron/Sparkle/etc. are the best around IMHO. Enhance PSU running close second, again IMHO.
Glad to see you're getting your issues sorted Tedinde :toast:
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Outside of PCP&C, Fortron/Sparkle/etc. are the best around IMHO. Enhance PSU running close second, again IMHO.
Glad to see you're getting your issues sorted Tedinde :toast:
I had a PCP&C 425 2 years ago, but i ended up selling it in a duallie rig.
$69 bucks, this PS is a Steal!!!! I shall buy no other. I tried the 350 fortron im my below setup and it handled it better than my antec and ttgi 550 and volts were same as the 530 i just showed. Just made me nervous with the 350 So i didnt keep trust it 24/7 and while i was gone. But it wasnt getting hot.
Im glad the classifieds are back now!!! Got some PS to sell!!!!
I would gladly pay over $100 for this supply if i had to buy another!!
Kept telling everyone that Fortron Source(Sparkle) make great power supplies. :)
Glad these things may finally get the recognition they deserve.
BTW, I'll second your "touchy pots" statement. You can cram a lot of voltage up the boards arse in a hurry.
I knew they were killer when i first started buying the 350's a few months ago. heavy!!!!!
THis came in a nice box too with a handle. Nice presentation. I'll put some pics up of it later and some more innards!!!
I've got this open the HS are cool to the touch also.
great to hear ted!!
i figured when i was checking mine out that it would be perfect for you :D
and yes the pots are very touchy. barely turn at all and your going up several tenths of a volt.
I can't seem to find this fortron psu everywhere in Europe... Does anybody hav a link to a shop that could ship all over Europe?
Ive allways been a fortron fan.. although I think my 400 has seen better days.Quote:
Originally posted by Jeff
Kept telling everyone that Fortron Source(Sparkle) make great power supplies. :)
Glad these things may finally get the recognition they deserve.
BTW, I'll second your "touchy pots" statement. You can cram a lot of voltage up the boards arse in a hurry.
I have one of these 530's on its way over to me.
I think ill swap the internal pots out with cermet ones on wires and make them more easily accesable... so I can tweak voltages more easily..
Heh - was thinking about doing just that last night, it's a great mod for this PSU.Quote:
Originally posted by Holst
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I think ill swap the internal pots out with cermet ones on wires and make them more easily accesable... so I can tweak voltages more easily..
A few people have PM'd me with that problem. Seems not to be found anywhere over there.Quote:
Originally posted by Iolao
I can't seem to find this fortron psu everywhere in Europe... Does anybody hav a link to a shop that could ship all over Europe?
I need some help here guys on this Forton 530 I have here.
the volts are way out of whack, heres what the volts were right out of the box.
3.38
5.5
11.05
that 12 volt line is correct.
measured with my Fluke Multimeter a dozen times.
upon some tweaking, I can get to a reasonable voltage, but once 2 lines are good, another line is so far outta spec I can't even guess if it's safe.
what I am looking at right now, after some adjustments.
3.6
12.21
6.05
I don't know how to get the 5 volt line down.
I adjust that, then the 12 volt line drops to 11.7 or less.
then adjust the 12, and the 3 goes down to 3.17...
whats the trick to this?
I can see, the far left pots are for the fan speeds.
the tiny middle pot adjusts the 12 volt line.
the 2nd from the left does nothing as far as I can tell???
then the left mini pot adjusts the 5 and 3.3 depending on how you adjust the pot, going right
lowers the 3.3 and raises the 5.
going left lowers the 5, but raises the 3.3
but leaving it in the middle, drops the 12 volt line to about 11 volts....
this is one tricky PSU to fiddle with.
beautifully made, whisper quiet.
feels like quality right out of the box.
the serial ATA connections are a huge plus.
but the pots are very very touchy and tricky so far...
any advice?
Kunaak
If your Fortron couples the 3.3 and 5 pots together, that's different from any Fortron I've ever seen. I'm waiting on a 530 for myself so this may be wrong but in my experience with 300 and 350 Fortrons:
The 3.3 pot controls only the 3.3 rail
The little pot controls the 12 and 5 volt rails - and when one goes up so does the other.
Are you setting the volts on a loaded board? Meaning heavily loaded with peripherals and O/C?
The 3.3 and 5v rails are interdependent so if you're loading one or both heavily during adjustment this could account for your problem.
With the low initial 12v rail I'd be getting that PSU ready for RMA. Doesn't sound right, something's wrong on that PSU. Since the 12v and 5v rails are adjusted on the same pot, by the time you get decent 12v your 5v is way high.
this is being adjusted on no PC hardware, just a unloaded PSU connected to nothing, the 3-4 pins are connected with a small wire, so I can turn the PSU on.
I am adjusting them in real time, watching the voltages on 2 multimeters to see what happens.
it's rather confusing so far.
the 12 volt line directly affects how high the 5 volt line is.
once the 12 volt line is at 12 volts, the 5 volt line is at 6 volts, and won't go anylower.
unless I lower the 3.3 volt to 3.1 volts, then it drops to about 5.85 volts, so I really can't tell which pot is doing what anymore.
it's a weird PSU indeed so far.
How would a full load effect these rails?
I wouldn't think it would drop them by much, because it seems like a pretty stout unit.
I don't have the full specs on the 530, but assume that the 3.3 and 5.0 rails have a TCO (Total Combined Output) of 300 watts.
If you're pulling 200 watts of 3.3 and trying to pull 150 watts out of the 5v, that adds up to 350 watts - in excess of the 300 watt TCO. Something has to give, what happens is that the voltages fluctuate and drop - BOTH of them.
Full load could affect the PSU this way even as you approach the TCO. Heat load goes up in the PSU and the rails start to wack out. Even on a stout unit like the Fortrons, but less so than on lesser power supplies.
You gotta have it loaded or 12v and 5v is always out of wack.Quote:
Originally posted by Kunaak
this is being adjusted on no PC hardware, just a unloaded PSU connected to nothing, the 3-4 pins are connected with a small wire, so I can turn the PSU on.
I am adjusting them in real time, watching the voltages on 2 multimeters to see what happens.
it's rather confusing so far.
the 12 volt line directly affects how high the 5 volt line is.
once the 12 volt line is at 12 volts, the 5 volt line is at 6 volts, and won't go anylower.
unless I lower the 3.3 volt to 3.1 volts, then it drops to about 5.85 volts, so I really can't tell which pot is doing what anymore.
it's a weird PSU indeed so far.
I use this Powmax PS tester that has 2 big resistors in it.
http://store.yahoo.com/dealsonic/poatxposuter.html
Good thing is it puts a load on it. Just Xrossing the Start wires wont get your volts right.
That's your problem.
This is the best $9 i ever spent.
They have an antec one that i have also but i like the Powmax better. The antec is just pass/fail
The powmax tester shows what is off, 5v/12v/3.3 ground.
Pic of the powermax. Shame their PS are junk. I've had 1/2 of all the powmax cheap supplies fail on me in my F@H farm!!!
Sounds more like your overvolt pots are out of adjustment to me...
put a hard drive on a molex, that'll put enough load on it I think... although i've never had this kind of problem..
well after my last post I just decieded to "go for it" and hook it to my PC, thinking I was running...
12.2
6.06
and
3.87
well, I take alllllll my good stuff out of my PC, hook up nothing besides the ATX connection and the P4 connection.
then power up and get into BIOS, only to find I am running...
13.28 volts.
5.45
3.7
so yeah, this PSU definatly needs to be on something to be tested.
the old pin trick doesn't work on it.
just like tedinde said.
thats most odd, but the results are EXTREMELY impressive.
after a few minutes in BIOS I adjusted it to this.
all in all, this is definatly a very hard deal to beat.
I can't believe the voltages available.
it's really insane.
I was at 13.2 volts when I booted in bios thinking I was at 12.2...
this is a incredibly adjustable PSU.
I am gonna go test some loads now, I'll post a few pics of that in alittle while :)
heres a shot of the PSU under load from a 8 million calculation of Super Pi for 8 Minutes.
Notes.
12 volt line.
low. 12.585
High 12.705
actual target volt 12.65
5 volt line.
low. 5.295
High. 5.402
actual target voltage 5.30
3.3 volt line.
low. 3.585
high. 3.616
actual taget voltage 3.60
the 5 volt line will overvolt more often then it does undervolt.
the 12 volt line is alittle jumpy, but well within a .1 variation so it's very solid indeed.
the 3.3 volt line is the most impressive.
it barely varied from 3.6 at any point and when it does it's within a .3 variation from the target voltage, so it's very stable again.
more tests to do, but wow, one hell of a good PSU so far thats all I can say :D
Told you, My Vapo and Tec is running off of mine along with the board.Quote:
one hell of a good PSU so far thats all I can say
I've got a 2.8 celery in here now @ 3750mhz on first boot testing.
I seem to have a good 3.0 also next to me on air that i just hooked up. 3.8ghz on a zalman, stable running F@H.
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If you check my ealier posts and screenies. My 3.3 v line was a dog kunaak, On the ttgi once i got around 4ghz and above.
I cant see anything this PS cant handle!!!!!
Looking like a nice PSU here. VERY nice.
ok, heres a load 3d benchmark.
laugh at the score, this is a 5200 (remember I said I took out my good stuff, and put the junk in cause I thought my 5 volt line was at volts ;) )
but look at the volts.
nearly identical.
theres a small variation on both 12 and 5 volt lines.
but the 3.3 volt line is rock solid, just a straight line from begining to end.
again :thumbsup:
good to hear you got one of these kunaak. :)
looking good on the voltages. not too bad on the variation.
Besides PCP$C, is there some reason to buy any other suppy!!!
Anyone in Europe able to get one of these Fortron 530 Psus?? I was able to find the 350 but not the 530. If anyone finds it please let know. After this Psu what will be the choice true control 550??
Thanks
Is it worthy to get the true control 550 or with the true power 480 I will get the same results. I´m looking for high OC (someone is this forum isn´t ;) ).