2 x GF110 makes no economic sense if 2 x GF114 can get close to the same performance in the same power envelope
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2 x GF110 makes no economic sense if 2 x GF114 can get close to the same performance in the same power envelope
never mind the poor photochop job..Quote:
Originally Posted by 570091D
I would imagine the card would be priced around $699+ if you use dual 570's as a reference so margins should be acceptable. This is about what the 5970's where selling back in the day so the market is there even if it is small.Quote:
Originally Posted by zerazax
I think a dual gf114 makes more sense when you look at overall efficiency as far as production costs, selling price & overall performance potential but AMD had the same choice with their dual gpu card considering they could have done well with a dual 6870.
If this comes to market as a dual full gf110 then its main purpose is to reclaim the heavy weight title belt, Nvidia's yamato.
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Would be funny if they beat 6990 to the release date...
Glad they kept 3GB of VRAM on board this time (so 580 cores, then ;)), unlike for GTX295.
Well, it's the same chip, really, so they can either disable some parts, or downclock and undervolt it, either is an option.Quote:
Originally Posted by 570091D
Would be great to see the fight with 6990 but i bet 590 won....
Can't wait to see how this pans out. If they do somehow manage to impress then it look slike my 295's will be surplus to requirements if and when they come out.
So is this the same as the EVGA GTX590 that was shown off at CES? Thought EVGA was going to have a unique product and be priced under $500?
single 580 cost $500, if this new card is even 1 fps faster, Nv will make you $$$ for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Utnorris
those specs might be true with a 100mhz clock speed... i will believe a dual 580 when I see it
LOL, yeah I wouldn't dare to hope for such a monster either.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650
Probably it's just some fake rumor to disparage AMD from releasing the 6990.
Some good old AMD-fans have been raising question about the necessity of 6990, and that suggest AMD may be thinking about dropping it. With that in mind, such a beast on the block, may convince AMD to drop 6990. All this is speculations tho, we have to wait and see if they can scare AMD.
I have got the same reaction, but i was mostly think to 300mhz ( 2d movies clocks ? ) Na seriously is not the average TDP, but mostly the "real TDP".... I don't see how they will fit it without a lot of protection against temps and watts reach. You can retain the power for Furmark, but if you need do it for ALL games and appliccations, this is another problem... how maintain throttling? fluctuation ? Then the new Nvidia vapor chamber cooling block are good, but is it enough for 2 580 ? without even speaking about overclocking limits.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650
Look like a nice rumors ramping after AMD's showing the 6990...
2 x 580 sounds insane BUT nvidia have been pulling off plenty of surprises. In fact how many thought that a 512 cuda version would run cooler than the 480? So i guess i'm cautiously optimistic.
The first Fermi was bugged, completely bugged, there's not only one reason to cut 32 shaders on high end cards... Nvidia have got then 6 months for fix the GF100... ofc it's better and run cooler, they have do what they should have done on first GF100... not less, not much.
But i agree with you, Nividia have been full of surpise in 2010, good and bad surprise.. who know. But let's not forget, they can't tap out a new cores, so a dual gpu's will be to be made with what they have actually. and this is not like fix the GF100. By changing the transistor size placement for decrease power.
Yep, the Nvidia beast will convince AMD to drop the HD 6990. The monster might even scare them so much that they will go out of business all together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
Probably this HD 6990 is full of wood screws, but I'm not sure about it, until Charlie reports.
"AMD's Matt Skynner, Corporate VP and General Manager of its GPU division, instantly got the attention of all the media when he teased us with AMD's upcoming monster GPU, the dual GPU Radeon HD 6990."
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Lol seriously, you think AMD will drop the 6990 cause they fear a rumor a dual gf 110 ? lol ... naa seriously you say that after AMD have start to tease peoples by showing it ? "" ok guys let's put 5millions of dollars in the trash, Nvidia scare us"" ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
You think they will go out of business buy just hearing rumors? I don't think so, it should take a bit more than that, but rumors about a scary monster that could kill 6990 before release could probably make them think twice about releasing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heinz68
I don't think that's entirely wood screws either, they had good time to replace some of wood screws after last years nasty delay.
is it just me or is that card bigger then the 5970 (if thats even possible)Quote:
Originally Posted by Heinz68
I have used 5970's and they are massive.... but that thing is..... has to be bigger it's crazy. A real GPU needs a real case I guess:D
back on topic here. Nvidia are surely planning something and they have been full of surprises, but not matter how green a persons glasses may be they can't expect a full 2x580 part. 2x 570 with 384bit buses.... MAYBE
I have a pair of 570's sitting in the machine next to me and I can tell you they throw heat like no ones business, but on the other hand I have a pair of unlocked 6950's on the other side and they throw just as much heat if not more then the 570's so if AMD can do it Nvidia should be able to as well...
I think that poster you quoted was sarcastic. 6990 not only exists but it actually has two 1536 SP GPUs on the same board. I can bet its power draw will be lower than any monster dual GPU based on Fermi NV has in store. Just imagine power draw of dual 580 Fermi card,you'd need 1KW power supply... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
if its a reference design, just going by the power vrm its probably dual 580s, reference GTX 570 has 4 phase VRm for core and 2 phase for mem, this one has a lot more per core.
So lets see if there anything behind your elaborate claims.Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
AMD had a chance to make a good break with 6900 last year, but they lost the opportunity after that nasty delay. Now nVidia has several options to counter AMD's wild card.
I personally think 2x560 would be enough to beat/match 6990, because we already know 560 beats 6950. In worst case (if 6990 turns out to be better), they can trough 2x570 on it too. Now these rumors are saying they can trough 2x580 in it, too. I personally don't think they would need 2x580 to beat 6990, and I don't think that's a viable or realistic option.
I think that nasty delay has actually killed AMD's wild-card, because they can't take the upper hand now.
Now, tell me, what do you think AMD has to offer to get a upper hand now?
Anyone who called that card a GTX 590 didn't know what they were talking about. The card used 2x GTX 460.Quote:
Originally Posted by Utnorris
Theyre not going to show off a card like that and not release it. And the whole going out of business was sarcasm because your idea of them not releasing this thing out of fear is no different. They dont need to take the crown to turn a profit off this thing. All they need is price to performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
Not even 560? They're pretty late with that one...Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
You are mistaking, totally. The high-end is all about the performance-crown. Price to performance applies to mainstream, and 560 has already secured this segment for nVidia.Quote:
Originally Posted by \/icious
If AMD can't take the performance-crown against 2x560 or 2x570, (or 2x580 according to this unbelievable rumors) then they better don't resale the 6990. Because #2 doesn't count and doesn't sell in high-end.
Based on this logic, I personally think this 2x580 is probably just some fake rumors to scare and discourage AMD from releasing the 6990.