I'm not defending anyone as I dislike this as much as any of you do but there is no need for this "feeding frenzy" that I see taking place here.
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I'm not defending anyone as I dislike this as much as any of you do but there is no need for this "feeding frenzy" that I see taking place here.
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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
I hope so cause I sure as hell ain't browsing RRR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Carry on as usual :up: Let's keep the derailment to a minimum though.
Good job Chris, very good job.
Are you really such a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: in person or are you just a keyboard warrior? All I've seen lately from you is a bunch of barking across multiple forums. Now, I can't decide if your post is an attempt to circumvent the language filter or just really terrible spelling. Let me think about it a bit and get back to you. Anything further you have to say to me can be carried out in PM.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
It's pathetic really :/
Everyone who keeps moaning about skinnee, he shouldn't have done it, and he shouldn't be allowed to get away with it just cos he contributes a lot.
He still broke the rules same as the others.
:shrug: So.... It's okay to "disable post processing" in a benchmark and win a contest... AND NOT GET BANNED because the rules weren't specific... :shrug:
But, as far as I can tell... Did Andre actually cheat with any of HIS submissions? If not, why is HE banned?
Yeah, if the case of hardware sharing/selling is true then ofcourse he should have known better... but then again, if you "disable post processing" in a benchmark you should also know better...
It may seem like I'm an Andre Fanboy, but that's not the case here... I'm just stating what I believe to be the facts from reading archives in various forums. ;)
He is banned cos he shared scores? Thats the rule he broke.
I wonder what Vapor has to say as far as skinnee's results when it comes the reviews.
Deep breath my friend. I didn't see anything negative in what he said and as I told him in a PM a few mins back,I thought some of his posts were excellent in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler
To bad it happend, but there's still another day after every day......
I would personally like to hear what Andre has to say for himself
And would very much like to ask him if this has ever occurred before, as he may be more willing to admit now that this has all come out...
Wow, lots of hatred and dirty laundry in this thread.... :shakes:
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Originally Posted by Movieman
Imho banning is well-deserved for what they did, but why is everyone questioning skinnee's review capabilities now? As this is entirely non-related to this topic.
Because it is a mark against his ethics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
He may be a great reviewer. But reviewers need to be trusted. Which he can not be now.
ok i respect all the names that were band, but there is no excuse whatsoever, but what about those guys who were boughting results ??? who are they ??
good job in investigation by the way, i am sure there are more scores done this way but this another time...
I've been watching this for a while and I think a lot of people's anger is well-placed. However, as the saying goes: "It's only wrong once you get caught". I personally have to wonder how much more of these shenanigans are going on behind the scenes at various levels without being picked up.
This has given a black eye to online overclocking competitions and professional overclocing in general IMO. As such, I think that HWBot and others (props to Charles for doing the right thing) should come down like a ton of bricks here in order to discourage further abuse. The only problem is that nothing really "governs" the online overclocking community per se.
I am not suggesting an outright banning of AY from HWBot....just a zeroing of his points to date. This isn't the type of thing which can be let slide or be handled with a simple slap on the wrist. Then again, he has contributed massively to the community as a whole so factoring in his past help and aid growing the OCing community is needed.
Skinnee's reviews shouldn't be held in contempt in any way, shape or form. I will agree with you on that one. What we have is a questioning of objectivity over something completely unrelated which shouldn't be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
I don't really have time to read through every post on this subject here, but if the guy who shared the scores gets a lifetime ban, I assume the ones who actually published them get the same penalty?
Bummerness all around :(
The others won't be banned for long.
i wonder what kingpin is thinking.
wasnt andre on his team?
I'd reckon he's thinking "ah FECK! damn bone-head, ugh!" :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
He'll just unbann himself and also get a new FM key? That wont work :(
IDK, I see where you and Dave are coming from but people have a right to vent their shock and anger at this outrage. And it's not as though there is a lot of personal attacks and name-calling going on. Though I agree it's probably only fair and prudent to separate this from skinnee's lc work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
WTF.
Andre banned? HIWA banned? :shakes::shakes:
:(