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picture says no...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesrt2004
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According to fudzilla : http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17851/1/
for nvidia Fermi GTX 470
So for GTX 480 the price is near 5970 or probably higher than this.this asus 5970 should be faster than GTX 480,Quote:
The safest guess is that it will be around 20 to 25 percent faster than the Geforce GTX 285, which puts it somewhere between the HD 5850 and the HD 5870.
Look here :
4870 > 250
260 core 216 > 4870
4890 > 260 core 216
275 > 4890 Reference
4890 Custom > 275
285 > 4890 Custom
4870X2 > 285
295 > 4870X2
so here i think
GTX 460 > 5830
5850 > GTX 460
GTX 470 > 5850
5870 > GTX 470
GTX 480 > 5870
5970 > GTX 480
GTX 495 > 5970
Huh ??
If 470 is between 5850 and 5870, 480 will be significantly slower than a 5970. What makes you think it's going to be priced higher than it?Quote:
Originally Posted by behrouz
Remember, Nvidia isn't looking to make a profit, that's why so little cards were produced, and that's why they can price it anything they want.
I used "Probably" so this is not Real.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
Cost for making 5970 is more than GTX 480 so the profit of making GTX 480 is higher than 5970 because of heavy power consumption.
Look for 4890 & 5770.Price is near each of them but 4890 is higher in performance and power consumption and 5770 is newer than 4890, Of Course Slower than this , have DX11 & DirectCompute 5 & OpenCL.
it's nvidia so they'll lower fps for other GPU's in TWIMTBP games and market the shiz out of PhysX and 3D vision to justify the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
Like AMD is trying to justify the price of 5770 and 5830 with currently useless things like DX11 or OpenCL?Quote:
Originally Posted by Helloworld_98
It's awesome how you can say "it's nvidia..." while AMD has been doing this for quite some time now, with a quite broad range of products
I suppose (on some of our behalves) hate for nvidia means that we don't really take notice of what ATi does anywhere near as much as nvidia.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
also ATi is more subtle than nvidia with dx11 than PhysX, c'mon, 7 slides just on PhysX?
Along with DX11 is ok to use to justify the price because you can't do it on other pieces of hardware and as we have seen it gives a visual advantage, whereas with PhysX you can do it on the CPU but nvidia optimizes it so little for x86 that it's unusable.
Pardon my French, but that's just childish!Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
Invest in something $$$ billions, and not wanting to sell it for profit is fairytale excuse!
If they are going to step up to 8-pin+8-pin+6-pin I say screw dual-GPUs. I want 3 or 4 full 5870 (or 5890) gpus on one board. We know you can do it asus. :D
What for? That'd be hard to feed enough power and cool, plus CFX scaling isn't great, not to mention so many chips sitting on the card in a single PCI-E slot...Quote:
Originally Posted by Solus Corvus
Haha no, I'm not saying they will never have any returns from their investment. The R&D investment was for Fermi and I am only saying that they won't see a ROI for this batch of GF100. Their designs haven't suddenly vanished, it just needs a little more time for respins and revisions for a high enough yield to be produced profitably - a couple of months later, Fermi will be making Nvidia money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Surely this is just a theory but nobody would believe Nvidia could make a profit from a GTX 480 sold under $700 or something at this point, which they won't because the performance would be nowhere near justifying that.
2 reasons:Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
1. Because I want one. :(
2. To beat a dual fermi card.
Of course, this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monstru
However, this is a very interesting card and my oh my that's a serious cooler.
Factory OC'ed to 825 meh not a big de- OH LOOK AT THAT COOLER
Ohhhh very interesting here :
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/...gtx480-scores/
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Getting back to the selective showings of the GTX480, there is a good reason for it. The performance is too close to the HD5870, so Nvidia will be forced to sell it at HD5870 prices, basically $400. The GPU isn't a money maker at this price point, and at best, Nvidia can price it between the $400 HD5870 and the $600 HD5970. The only tools left to deal with this issue are PR and marketing as the chip is currently in production.
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The end result is that the GTX480 is simply not fast enough to deliver a resounding win in anything but the most contrived benchmark scenarios. It is well within range of a mildly upclocked HD5870, which is something that ATI can do pretty much on a whim. The GTX480 can barely beat the second fastest ATI card, and it doesn't have a chance at the top.
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GTX480 is too hot, too big, too slow, and lacks anything that would recommend it over a HD5870, much less the vastly faster HD5970. Nvidia is said to be producing only 5,000 to 8,000 of these cards, and it will lose money on each one. The architecture is wrong, and that is unfixable. The physical design is broken, and that is not fixable in any time frame that matters. When you don't have anything to show, spin. Nvidia is spinning faster than it ever has before
GTX 480 Slower than 5970 ??? Nvidia price for this is between 400$ to 600$.
What the hell is going on ?
hahahah :DQuote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
Oh wa I see waht you did there. :lsfight:Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
So what kind of performance hit will 3D tish cause on fermi, or the 5800's for that matter?
Until about March 26, this question has no grounding and is likely dismissible.Quote:
Originally Posted by behrouz
...Quote:
Quote:The end result is that the GTX480 is simply not fast enough to deliver a resounding win in anything but the most contrived benchmark scenarios. It is well within range of a mildly upclocked HD5870, which is something that ATI can do pretty much on a whim. The GTX480 can barely beat the second fastest ATI card, and it doesn't have a chance at the top.
Quote:GTX480 is too hot, too big, too slow, and lacks anything that would recommend it over a HD5870, much less the vastly faster HD5970. Nvidia is said to be producing only 5,000 to 8,000 of these cards, and it will lose money on each one. The architecture is wrong, and that is unfixable. The physical design is broken, and that is not fixable in any time frame that matters. When you don't have anything to show, spin. Nvidia is spinning
This article was commented before, there are some true things in it but in majority is biased, not to trust. GTX 480 will be closer to 5970 than 5870 and GTX 470 will be closer to 5870 than 5850. :)
Ares if will not be limited editions to 1K like Mars probably is build to match future GF 104, but price vould be very high probably 800-900$.
I can bench that with GPU pots. These have a large enough pad/clearance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatalbert
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/LN2pots%2...g/IMG_2223.jpg
Save the aluminum comments as these things will likely coldbug long before alum is a factor with temps ;)
;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrea deluxe
There's a reason why title of this thread says "AMD's REAL answer" (although it's meant to point to recent Trillian the Fermi killer canard). Asus was the one who leaded way for AMD's custom 5970s with ROG ARES.
@chew
you can mount a pot even on the gpu on the right ? :eek:
2x8 & 6pin won't be a problem? Because I think it could be.
Nah should be fine. This pot design was raised quite a bit to avoid all obstacles and allow for heavy insulation. Problem is they are preety much app specific based on the core contact of 5XXX cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatalbert
I guess you missed the entire 295 Dual PCB launch, every card sold was at a loss on profits for NVIDIA. They simply released the cards to take the crown away from the 4870X2 after they had the GT200b which could operate at extremely low temps while delivering unprecedented performance in SLI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo