MSI showed the bigbang trinergy preproduction models at cebit last march
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MSI showed the bigbang trinergy preproduction models at cebit last march
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I remember when Nvidia was the new underdog and 3Dfx was the evil one, now Nvidia is the biggest so now it becomes the Evil one and ATI is the saint.
If Nvidia ever dies and ATI becomes the new EVIL then we do it all over again.
Humanity is so lame that I am beginning to hate our race.
I wish some alien race comes in and kills us all...then again, I doubt any intelligent live out there wants to get remotely close to us human scum.
Damn I am in a good mood today...now I just need to join the South Park goth kids!
Anything that crushes the other thing will be automatically declared evil. Same goes with AMD/Intel and Aliens/Humans "See District 9 nice movie"Quote:
Originally Posted by shaolin95
Humanity is passionate and emotional it will retaliate if it feels something unfair is going on with respect to their moral's, this is only in 3rd person perspective tough people who work for Nvidia will think Nvidia is correct in doing whatever it does and it is true for every other company out there till the company's action does not go against the wishes of that individual.
Now to become goth all you need to do is get bitten by a vampire "Ask new moon's actor"
Yep.
The whole thing just gets annoying after you have been in the industry for so long....Tandy Coco, pong, beloved C64, etc.
We have seen it all and we have seen it happen some many times that it is just annoying to say the least.
Between that and the flavor of the month kids that can only recommend things that came out last week, to quote Cartman "you are breaking my balls man"!....lol
I don't think anyone said Nvidia was evil or that ATI was a saint. The difference is that if, and I say if, this is true, it's just another example of a large company screwing the consumer. If ATI did this then the thread would be about them and not Nvidia. The reality is that ATI has released two generation of cards that have not been overly priced unlike Nvidia. If Nvidia was really wanting their SLI to be adopted then they wouldn't be charging for it and would have gladly allowed it to be used on Intel based chipsets. AMD allowed it's arch rival Intel to include CF support on the last few generation of chipsets because they wanted it to be adopted. Nvidia on the other hand wanted their cake and wanted to eat it too. Sometimes it's better to compromise if you want to get ahead and that's what ATI is doing. If Nvidia's chipsets were so great they would have allowed SLI to be used on x48 and P45 MB's and openly compete with them with their 680i and 790i chipsets, but they wanted to keep that feature to themselves. If they want folks to buy their GPU's, then they would be more competitive on price and stop with the negative PR campaigns when ATI released their HD5800 series or have a competitive model on the market. Instead they showed off a non-working GT300 and stated it would be delivered this year, not going to happen. Then they denounced DX11 and then came out and supported it. There is a reason that 3DFX went away and that's the fact that they sat on their laurels while Nvidia took their market from them and now it looks like Nvidia is doing the same thing.
It it really that or just that people's perspective is once again changing to get rid of the new evil....face it, it is always the same thing.Quote:
There is a reason that 3DFX went away and that's the fact that they sat on their laurels while Nvidia took their market from them and now it looks like Nvidia is doing the same thing.
What do all evil companies have in common? Yeah, they are all at the top. Coincidence? I think not.
Why hasn't google disappeared then?Quote:
Originally Posted by shaolin95
Perception is definitely a huge thing, but if you release quality products and support the community that supports you, things tend to go a bit more smoothly.
Reading this kinds of words on XS is really, really sad ... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechromancer
Neither has Microsoft nor Creative Labs but how many people HATE them even thought they still use their products? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley Pain
I agree very much. Besides I thought that was one of the goals of business is to make customers happy because a happy customer is a returning customer which is the foundation to any great business. I think what happens is that some companies get a little carried away and paranoid in the board room. They become a little separated from reality in their climb for the top and become a little callous in their actions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley Pain
Again, no one said Nvidia was evil. What has been stated is that they are sitting on their laurels and rather than compete, they are hording. And I wouldn't really consider them on top, but I do not have the numbers in front of me, so maybe they are. IMHO they just swap blows with ATI in the GPU market since they will not be producing chipsets anymore I am not sure what they have left.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaolin95
Here are the facts, ATI has released a new gen card that is faster than the previous generation, adds new features and is priced competitively. Nvidia on the other hand is 4-5 months out from releasing their card even though they have stated it would be out in December and showed off a mock card to everyone (Did we say that was Fermi, oops, our bad, that's just what it will look like). In the last two months they have done everything they can to keep people from grabbing a new gen ATI card, this by itself is not bad, except for the fact of how they are going about it. First they say DX11 is not needed and start to rename cards once again. Then they say they have a working model, but it turns out to be one of their Quadro cards, but the performance should be similar. Then they say they will be out with the GT300 by December, now it looks like it won't be till March or April and it will support DX11. They are basically stealing AMD's CPU playbook on "Why we can not compete, but you shouldn't buy Intel".
I could care less who makes the best chip or GPU, I have no brand loyalty, but I do live in the real world and when companies employ anti-competitive practices then they should get called out on it, whether it is Nvidia, ATI, Intel, AMD, Microsoft or Apple, doesn't matter it's wrong. Does it make them evil? Not at all, but it sure doesn't make them look consumer friendly.
I'm going to go ahead and quote this. This is how any sane person should make a purchasing decision :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Utnorris
And yet another story about this:
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/13433/...hip/index.html
Seams Nvidia may try to block it via drivers. Really? Really? Do they not realize they are just shooting themselves in the foot?
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Originally Posted by Utnorris
I think that would require wisdom....
You can be the smartest MoFo in the world and have zero wisdom.
Nvidia grew big and it now must think it's invincible. I am a long time Nvidia user, I've bought their top models of each series, since the 4800 titanium days; if Nvidia really pulls this stunt and doesn't let MSI launch the Hydra board and/or blocks the chip in the GPU drivers, they are really stupid. What can possibly drive them to do such thing? Do they really believe that by doing that they will force the WORLD to use SLI instead? SLI has its problems and limitations. CF has its problems and limitations and I am sure Hydra will have its problems/limitations as well. But the consumers must be the ones to judge and choose.
If the Hydra chip is good/better than SLI or CF, let the users have them. It might even stimulate them to buy more GPUs... why don't they think like that?
Lucid is a very small company, compared to Nvidia. Instead of blocking the Lucid chip, put your engineers together and build a better one, Nvidia!
Looks like Charlie is trying to get hits again. I'm gonna have to ask around and see if this is actually true...
I just think that nvidia may be taking things a bit too far...
"Everybody is evil, you only become evil when someone is able to point out the fact that you are"
If this is true. Its game over for Nvidia for me, and for everyone else most probably. I have been a hard nvidia user since the dawn of time, i actually went from VooDoo to Nvidia, which gives you some perspective of how long I have been using them. If they block the functionality of hydra with their cards. I will have no choice but to go to the competitor. Be it ATI, or eventually Intel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Utnorris
I have a hard time believing that someone with a single 8800GT is all of a sudden mortified that Nvidia would block access to an unproven multi-GPU solution ;)
What is this crap? Someone has to own a certain type of hardware to have a valid opinion?Quote:
Originally Posted by trinibwoy
Nvidia isnt the bad guy here.:shakes: What if this lucid hydra chip has potential compatibility problems with nvidia cards.:( They dont do any hardware testing for lucid based configurations. Therefore they must disable such a configuration to prevent any unnecessary problems that good customers may potentially have.:) Dont you see now? nvidia is protecting us here. The lucid chip could potentially be a major time consuming and costly problem for consumers, especially when we have such a SOLID AND PROVEN technology like SLI.;) Nvidia is only making sure that we dont have to worry about these kind of problems, and keeping the price of gpu's down from unnecessary extra hardware support.:D you should be thanking them for caring about the quality of multi gpu gameing and retail prices!:clap:
This just like why physx shouldnt be able to run with ATI hardware rendering. There is just too many issues that could potentially hurt and cost us in the long run.:up:
its just his usual toeing of the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by eleeter
I hope and expect Nvidia to do this. The free pr spin from the Nvidia fans on every forum is going to provide alot of entertainment.
+1 :(Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
do you work for nvidia :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by To(V)bo Co(V)bo
what you just wrote is a crock
i been thankin nvidia ever since i used a 680i chipset:rofl: thankfully i got a full refund after 2 dead board:D
most of us saw how much better sli is on an intel chipset even better when it was hacked
i'm waitin on hydra but i really dont care if it works on an nvidia card cause i really doubt i'll ever buy another one