Intel - 34nm G2 - TRIM f/w update

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12-01-2009, 01:04 PM
D749

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckbam

Thank You!

No problem. Let us know how updating goes. ;) I should receive two new retail 80GB G2s tomorrow. I'm hoping that they're already updated.
12-01-2009, 01:07 PM
chuckbam

Quote:

Originally Posted by D749

No problem. Let us know how updating goes. ;) I should receive two new retail 80GB G2s tomorrow. I'm hoping that they're already updated.

I done them before. You need to put the drive in IDE mode in the bios. I will update later tonight and post back.
12-01-2009, 01:17 PM
Ao1

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckbam

I done them before. You need to put the drive in IDE mode in the bios. I will update later tonight and post back.

my drives just updated in ahci mode, but smart monitoring needs to be on within the bios to run it that way.
12-01-2009, 01:49 PM
oc550be

please compare
02HA vs 02HD (80GB)

SCREENSHOTS ! ! ! :D :D :D
12-01-2009, 03:12 PM
fiskov

Just updated; One of my 80gb g2's

CrystalDiskMark 2.2 100MB results:

Before update: 253.3MB / 79.1MB
After update: 259.9MB / 91.33MB

Not bad.
12-02-2009, 12:40 AM
chuckbam

Anyone able to read the Release Notes?
12-02-2009, 02:24 AM
felix_w

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiskov

Just updated; One of my 80gb g2's

CrystalDiskMark 2.2 100MB results:

Before update: 253.3MB / 79.1MB
After update: 259.9MB / 91.33MB

Not bad.

Nice...

Can you post results at random R/W ?
12-02-2009, 03:09 AM
dctokyo

Updated with no problems.:up:
12-02-2009, 05:10 AM
fiskov

Quote:

Can you post results at random R/W ?

Sure, i never run those ones though so i can't give you before update results..

Seq = 254.2MB / 91.31MB
512k = 161.9MB / 91.35MB
4K = 25.72MB / 75.46MB

It's made the write about 10MB faster compared to the shipping firmware,
but the read's more or less the same.
12-02-2009, 05:38 AM
felix_w

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiskov

Sure, i never run those ones though so i can't give you before update results..

Seq = 254.2MB / 91.31MB
512k = 161.9MB / 91.35MB
4K = 25.72MB / 75.46MB

It's made the write about 10MB faster compared to the shipping firmware,
but the read's more or less the same.

Thanx, numbers are great...:up:
12-02-2009, 05:53 AM
chinobino

I've got 4 of these 80 GB drives in RAID0 currently with the shipped firmware 02G9.

I posted my current performance here.

Is there any real reason for me to flash the drives being that I can't use TRIM in RAID?

I can't see any benefits - just risk.
12-02-2009, 05:56 AM
chuckbam

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinobino

I've got 4 of these 80 GB drives in RAID0 currently with the shipped firmware 02G9.

I posted my current performance here.

Is there any real reason for me to flash the drives being that I can't use TRIM in RAID?

I can't see any benefits - just risk.

?? can't read the Release Notes.
12-02-2009, 05:57 AM
dcl

Updating now. I take it the SSD Toolbox is still not up?
12-02-2009, 05:58 AM
chinobino

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckbam

?? can't read the Release Notes.

Sure did;

Quote:

This firmware revision has several continuous improvement optimizations intended to provide the best possible user experience with the Intel SSD.

Nothing specific was stated for 80 GB drives, that's why I asked.
12-02-2009, 05:59 AM
chuckbam

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcl

Updating now. I take it the SSD Toolbox is still not up?

If the new bios has TRIM, why would you need it?
12-02-2009, 06:02 AM
chuckbam

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinobino

Sure did;

Nothing specific was stated for 80 GB drives, that's why I asked.

You can read : Release Notes (docx)?

http://downloadmirror.intel.com/1836...tes%202.1.docx
12-02-2009, 06:15 AM
dcl

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckbam

If the new bios has TRIM, why would you need it?

Not sure. :shrug: I'm not hugely familiar with how the technology works. I would have assumed the TRIM command would be passed to all new HD activity and that existing data may need to be 'cleaned up' or 'optimized'. But as I said I'm not sure how it works. Also Win7 Detecting a 'new drive' and asked me to restart.

I have a 80gb X-25M G2. Not expecting any performance increase, but here is a benchmark run a few weeks ago on a fresh format, and the same benchmark performed just now after applying the new firmware.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4...elssdsa2m0.png

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8705/ssdpost.png

I guess any performance difference could come down to variance between runs.
12-02-2009, 06:19 AM
dcl

Also, I have the Intel Matrix Storage Manager installed. I remember reading earlier that TRIM would not work with this installed? Anyone got any more info on this?
12-02-2009, 08:30 AM
Brama

Actually automatic Trim works only in Windows 7 with native Microsoft drivers.
12-02-2009, 10:15 AM
chuckbam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brama

Actually automatic Trim works only in Windows 7 with native Microsoft drivers.

I have the Matrix Storage Manager installed. But this is my MS driver on the drive. Do I have TRIM?

http://chuckbam.com/Post2/ssdCapture.PNG
12-02-2009, 12:23 PM
Ao1

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckbam

I have the Matrix Storage Manager installed. But this is my MS driver on the drive. Do I have TRIM?

Go to the device manager. Select IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers. If you see Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller then you are using the correct MS driver to enable auto TRIM.

If not you can uninstall the Intel controll drivers and when you reboot the standard MS drivers should install.
12-02-2009, 03:03 PM
Lu(ky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brama

Actually automatic Trim works only in Windows 7 with native Microsoft drivers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckbam

I have the Matrix Storage Manager installed. But this is my MS driver on the drive. Do I have TRIM?

http://chuckbam.com/Post2/ssdCapture.PNG

Quote:

Originally Posted by audienceofone

Go to the device manager. Select IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers. If you see Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller then you are using the correct MS driver to enable auto TRIM.

If not you can uninstall the Intel controll drivers and when you reboot the standard MS drivers should install.

Yeah I am confused with this as well. I was using the Asus/Intel driver for the drive. Not sure if it is on auto/native TRIM? I put on the new driver and it seems to work better but I also installed the old ToolBox 1.1 and ran it. Number seem to be the same now when I first did a fresh W7 install 1 month ago now.

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...ks/SSDInfo.jpg
12-02-2009, 04:07 PM
dcl

Just changed the driver to the standard Microsoft one, seems to be working fine so far.

Except now Windows thinks my SSD and Storage drives are removable and pesters me with the icon in the systray.
12-03-2009, 02:55 AM
firestarter.pt

I have updated my Intel X25-M G2 (80 Gb) yesterday.

I was a little scared because the update application froze during the update and I had to reset the computer but in the end everything was ok and the drive was updated...

Here are some comparative benchs with ICH7R controller (a bit old, I know...), Microsoft drivers and a 3 months old installation of Windows 7 x64 with daily usage. The full system is described on my signature.

Before the firmware update:

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8180/antes2.png http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/2921/antesp.png

After the firmware update and TRIM manually executed with the Toolbox (just in case):

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/16/depois2.png http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2789/depois.png
12-03-2009, 04:32 AM
XS Janus

A nice improvement! :)

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