COD MW2 - No PB support and Dedicated Servers

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10-18-2009, 10:01 AM
slim142

I do really hope at least 80% of pc pre-orders get cancelled before monday so Infinity gets a huge pressure...
10-18-2009, 10:14 AM
Milos-stancene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FKty5Kpf4w
10-18-2009, 10:15 AM
sniperbob

I can live with a delayed release if it means we get the game the way it should be released.
10-18-2009, 10:23 AM
IronWarrior

I still want the game, so am gonna download it first, if I like it, than I buy it.

But such stupidity from IW is crazy, these guys who work there are so out of touch with players it's a crime, don't these guys EVER do market research, I would image they are gamers themselfs, so how do they get away with doing this crap, it's mad.
10-18-2009, 10:30 AM
WaxCactus

i give them time to repent :D althou my friends already cancled the pre-order i will cancle myself in about 7 days
if they still going to do that.. and as vit_pr0n said they actually promote piracy on that move
10-18-2009, 10:35 AM
BobyTT

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Originally Posted by sniperbob

I can live with a delayed release if it means we get the game the way it should be released.

+ me too
10-18-2009, 10:39 AM
Spawne32

over a million in sales lost already if you figure 23000 signatures and canceled preorders x 50 dollars a box
10-18-2009, 10:45 AM
LinkinParkBoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FKty5Kpf4w

:rofl:
10-18-2009, 10:47 AM
sniperbob

except this game will retail for $60 US, so the loss is even greater...
10-18-2009, 10:49 AM
Syn.

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Originally Posted by Tunnel Vision

I guess I don't understand what's going on here. What are dedicated servers?

Dedicated servers are non-player hosted servers. Its a proper server rented from a server hosting company running on a high bandwidth, low latency connection. Its up 24/7 and usually managed by a clan or a game community web site, and of course the hosting companies themselves.

In other words Dedicated servers offer a revenue stream for 3rd party companies which helps extend the life of a game. Take that away and none but the IW has anything to gain from the game, which only leaves them with their customers... good luck to them...
10-18-2009, 10:52 AM
Reznik Akime

I never intended on playing this game on PC as I will admit that I'm more of a console guy now. However, I do know what it means to have dedicated servers. They're almost a necessity for big named titles to have proper online play. I really can't seen any intended logic in doing this.
10-18-2009, 10:56 AM
mrkram

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FKty5Kpf4w
i was laughing so hard!! hhaha
10-18-2009, 10:59 AM
Kain665

For the record, we have 24k signatures. Lets hope it keeps going!
10-18-2009, 11:05 AM
003

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Originally Posted by randomizer

Of course there's a benefit. It stops piracy. People only pirate games that they actually have a reason for playing. :p:

Well, no actually. I canceled my pre-order and I will be downloading a pirated version to play the single player now. And I intend to hand out free copies to all my friends and tell them not to buy it.

And there will likely be a good player base for the pirated version. Pirates can only play on other pirate servers, and if you look at FEAR 2, another fully Steam integrated game with no dedicated server, a majority of servers are pirated.
10-18-2009, 11:09 AM
AndrewZorn

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Originally Posted by Syn.

Dedicated servers are non-player hosted servers. Its a proper server rented from a server hosting company running on a high bandwidth, low latency connection. Its up 24/7 and usually managed by a clan or a game community web site, and of course the hosting companies themselves.

In other words Dedicated servers offer a revenue stream for 3rd party companies which helps extend the life of a game. Take that away and none but the IW has anything to gain from the game, which only leaves them with their customers... good luck to them...

and for the actual players, more important is the level of customization available when you control the servers

restricting certain weapons, perks... and custom content

(not arguing, just elaborating)
10-18-2009, 11:15 AM
Spawne32

canceled my pre order yesterday, not installing steam, not playing the game without dedicated servers
10-18-2009, 11:16 AM
Philip_J_Fry

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Originally Posted by AndrewZorn

and yeah,
the two guys that got famous off starting the boycott closed it because "valve dropped the price to $33, all you have to do is buy 4 at once"

...

do u have links to the boycott?? who r those 2 guys

anyway this idiot on IW forum has some funny things to say
http://www.infinityward.com/forum/vi...?f=13&t=124082

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Originally Posted by Moron on Infinity Ward forum

OP: But now I see that they got greedy. They still have the MP. PC players :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing about losing Ded servers becasue of lag is dumb. IW wouldnt remove the servers if they thought the PC's couldnt handle it. Have some faith. Besides, console's are the ones who really lose out... Just stop making petitions and flame topics. I want to support PC players, but I cant do that while they cry "More, More, More" Take what IW gives you, and live with it. We want you in the Boards to iscuss the game, but it now seems like it's a Giant Console vs PC vs IW deathmatch. Cant we go back to the usual spam topics instead of the dedicated servers? I mean, if anything, the Console people should be complaining. Besides. I doubt this was a decision IW made for :banana::banana::banana::banana:s and gigles, they have it all worked out. And I guarantee you will regret canceling the best FPS ever made... I mean, No ded servers... That's game breaking! You cant make moon gravity maps, or kick people :-O Thats gamebreaking! No, removing ded servers makes everything equal, fair, and removes risks for hacking... Oh and PC players now have prestige mode... Your welcome
/end rant

to suggest that P2P has less lag than ded server is ludicrous
10-18-2009, 11:18 AM
Spawne32

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Originally Posted by IronWarrior

I still want the game, so am gonna download it first, if I like it, than I buy it.

But such stupidity from IW is crazy, these guys who work there are so out of touch with players it's a crime, don't these guys EVER do market research, I would image they are gamers themselfs, so how do they get away with doing this crap, it's mad.

They ARE gamers, but they arent PC gamers, and their paychecks dictate where the game goes. This will probably ultimately be the end of IW, just as it has been for so many development studios, like dynamix and clancore.
10-18-2009, 11:19 AM
Mad1723

Hm.... apparently, I got banned from their forum... the thing is, I only posted about the fact that it was worrying that IW had lost so much faith in PC gamers and decided to go the console way... And I apparently got banned for that... smells like huge damage control going on since they know they screwed up. Well, seems like I wont be spending a penny on their next game!
10-18-2009, 11:19 AM
Spawne32

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Originally Posted by Philip_J_Fry

do u have links to the boycott?? who r those 2 guys

anyway this idiot on IW forum has some funny things to say
http://www.infinityward.com/forum/vi...?f=13&t=124082

to suggest that P2P has less lag than ded server is ludicrous

you gotta understand the console gamers posting on that forum are between the ages of 12-16, they dont even understand the concept of PC gaming let alone the impact it has on the company or the community, they are just trolling the hell out of the forum.
10-18-2009, 11:21 AM
Aerwidh

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Originally Posted by AndrewZorn

if only people were this adamant about premium DLC / micro transactions
which is REALLY the ruin of video games

I'd say DLC / micro transactions are more a symptom of an industry full of unhealthy business models than the actual problem. Companies try these things because they are desperate for short term profit in order to cover increasing cost budgets (the real problems)...
10-18-2009, 11:22 AM
BrowncoatGR

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Originally Posted by >HyperlogiK<

Free games are split between badly unpolished Quake/Civ clones [Alien Arena, Sauerbraten, Freeciv] and interesting experiments that aren't actually any fun to play [Narbacular Drop, .kkrieger]. I'm all for the philosophy of free software, but when the free games are so vastly inferior to even compared with bargain bin retail titles from ten years ago I'm not willing to play them just to make a political statement.

Try Nexuiz. It's a very good Quake 3 style FPS
10-18-2009, 11:23 AM
IronWarrior

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Originally Posted by Spawne32

over a million in sales lost already if you figure 23000 signatures and canceled preorders x 50 dollars a box

There is also more to that, if you take into account the lost sales for dedicated servers, rented boxs, clan sites, hosting and all that.

This is snowball, it's going to get big. :yepp:
10-18-2009, 11:24 AM
Spawne32

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Originally Posted by Reznik Akime

I never intended on playing this game on PC as I will admit that I'm more of a console guy now. However, I do know what it means to have dedicated servers. They're almost a necessity for big named titles to have proper online play. I really can't seen any intended logic in doing this.

Ive had evey console since the very first nintento in 1987, console games serve a different purpose then PC games, each platform is played in a very different and distinctive way. Racing games,fighting games, side scrolling games, things like that, i love playing those on a console, as well as many other titles, but FPS games, strategy games, those are what i play on the PC.
10-18-2009, 11:25 AM
Spawne32

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Originally Posted by IronWarrior

There is also more to that, if you take into account the lost sales for dedicated servers, rented boxs, clan sites, hosting and all that.

This is snowball, it's going to get big. :yepp:

oh its a huge slap in the face to the companys that rent dedicated servers, let me tell you, those companys were probably waiting to score on the 25000+ servers that would have popped up on MW2.

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