Project: ATCS 840 Black & White

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10-06-2009, 11:58 PM
Wezly

Regardless of what we said, I knew from what you've done so far that whatever you chose to do would end up working out well.

Can't wait for updates!

Man, I really wanna rebuild my Raven case now! I did air cooling to make sure everything worked and got lazy (and poor).
10-07-2009, 12:59 AM
felix_w

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Originally Posted by Ced-G60

I have tryed this, but first, it make the top filing port of the rez not usable (without taking out he rez/pump) and make fitting the rad troublesome. Having both the pump Inlet/outlet under the level of the video card did not look good to me.

I am still planning on putting both the rez/pump next to each other, and they will go next to the motherbord tray. But I want to keep the top filling port fonctional.

Ced, with positioning the tank next to the 24pin power connector of the m/b , see if there is space for adding a few cm's of tubing to the top of the case where you can add a fill-port fitting. That is a possible solution to the specific arrangement.
10-07-2009, 01:37 AM
Ced-G60

Quote:

Originally Posted by felix_w

Ced, with positioning the tank next to the 24pin power connector of the m/b , see if there is space for adding a few cm's of tubing to the top of the case where you can add a fill-port fitting. That is a possible solution to the specific arrangement.

Well, I though about that too, but the top rad is in the way. And I really do not want to cut that sleek looking brush aluminum top :)
10-07-2009, 02:22 AM
exe163

What type of spray did you use? The sound "card" looks pretty well done.

I have the same board withe the same blocks. They sure do look sexy :).
10-07-2009, 02:30 AM
emoners

lovin' the build so far...good job mate! :up:
10-07-2009, 02:52 AM
PsYcHoNo0b727

This is just a recommendation but this is what my plan is going to be when I build my rig. Have a 120.3 Feser rad on top for the GPUS, and a 120.2 Feser rad on the bottom for the CPU (even though they are opposite sides of the case this is the only way I can mount the rads without having to do a lot of modding or changing in the looks of the case).

I will be using the Swiftech MCP355 (Laining DDC) with the XSPC Res Tops added on (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23357) and mount them right on the bottom of the 5.25 rack possibly using either a UN mount or just screw it in myself and jus use BP 45s or 90s to make the tubing path.

I know you already have you res tops, but just figured id give you another idea.
10-07-2009, 03:34 AM
Ced-G60

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Originally Posted by exe163

What type of spray did you use? The sound "card" looks pretty well done.

I have the same board withe the same blocks. They sure do look sexy :).

I used Matt Black paint from my local car DIY shop

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Originally Posted by emoners

lovin' the build so far...good job mate! :up:

Thanks :)

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Originally Posted by PsYcHoNo0b727

This is just a recommendation but this is what my plan is going to be when I build my rig. Have a 120.3 Feser rad on top for the GPUS, and a 120.2 Feser rad on the bottom for the CPU (even though they are opposite sides of the case this is the only way I can mount the rads without having to do a lot of modding or changing in the looks of the case).

I will be using the Swiftech MCP355 (Laining DDC) with the XSPC Res Tops added on (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23357) and mount them right on the bottom of the 5.25 rack possibly using either a UN mount or just screw it in myself and jus use BP 45s or 90s to make the tubing path.

I know you already have you res tops, but just figured id give you another idea.

This is how the rad are done now, the 3x at the top and the 2x at the bottom. But the 3x will be for the CPU + MB and the 2x for the video (as I only use 1 video card)

I want to make the rez/pump visible from the outside, so no hiding in the 5.25 rack :) Thanks for your feedback tho :)
10-07-2009, 04:10 AM
Anemic

Looks really really good, Im looking forwart to the next update!
10-07-2009, 04:20 AM
Ced-G60

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Originally Posted by Anemic

Looks really really good, Im looking forwart to the next update!

Thanks ;)

I got my GPU waterblock this morning, so I now have all the main parts. When I get home, I'll take some photos of the rad installed and start working on the support for the rez/pump. I'll get more work done this weekend mostly :)
10-07-2009, 04:54 AM
PsYcHoNo0b727

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ced-G60

This is how the rad are done now, the 3x at the top and the 2x at the bottom. But the 3x will be for the CPU + MB and the 2x for the video (as I only use 1 video card)

I want to make the rez/pump visible from the outside, so no hiding in the 5.25 rack :) Thanks for your feedback tho :)

You can always get the XSPC dual bay DDC res that firts in 2 5.25 bays and has capability for 2 loops easy. That is actually the route I will be going since it looks better IMO.
10-07-2009, 05:50 AM
Ced-G60

For now, I will do with what I have :) and I kinda like the EK rez (which is why I got them at the first place :D)
10-07-2009, 06:24 AM
PsYcHoNo0b727

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Originally Posted by Ced-G60

For now, I will do with what I have :) and I kinda like the EK rez (which is why I got them at the first place :D)

They are sexy, I have one in my old rig and it was very very nice :)
10-07-2009, 10:19 AM
Ced-G60

Update and photos, here we are.

The quality of the photos are not that great, its already dark by the time i get home from work...

Ek Nickel With plexi top, Rev2 = Win
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2451/...c64ebe7d_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2609/...0cdbbbfd_o.jpg

The ugly top
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3524/...e8e82e58_o.jpg

And gone the ugly one (its was hard one to remove it, that thermal past is like glue....)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3257/...8f1498f8_o.jpg

Nice and clean !
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2537/...ac4a21d7_o.jpg

The thermal stuff installed (i also used the MX3 for the chipset's, boy its a b**** to get on....)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3453/...b2b982e3_o.jpg

The back plate painted (note the paint model behind :p)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2503/...275e4809_o.jpg

Finished !
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2536/...1a991545_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3505/...b73d4419_o.jpg

And the rad installed. I have some mix feeling about it. it does not sit flush at the surface. I will see about making something about it. That give me way much more room to work with tho, which is good.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2496/...95061ce7_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2539/...fb3e54d7_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2574/...5592ae3c_o.jpg
10-07-2009, 11:25 AM
The Viking

That radiator placing turned out really nice :-)
Your block + black painted backplate is awesome!!
10-07-2009, 10:53 PM
felix_w

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Originally Posted by Ced-G60

The back plate painted (note the paint model behind :p)

Thank You Ced!

Painting the back plates of your vga & sound card is really nice.

About the bottom rad, if the case bottom plate surface does not , you may use a radiator neoprene gasket, or make a custom one by filling the blank spots of the radiator's trace on the bottom plate.
10-08-2009, 12:10 AM
Ced-G60

I have an idea in order to make that radiator flat. I will try to use motherboard tray spacer thingy. (if i can find some small one somewhere)
10-08-2009, 01:04 AM
Neox69

Dude, sweet build... ;)
10-08-2009, 09:09 AM
Ced-G60

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Originally Posted by Neox69

Dude, sweet build... ;)

Thanks ;)

So, some news.

I used some MB support to make the rad higher up and straight. of course I painted them black :)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2543/...d6fd3065_o.jpg

I sued some rubber washer as the hole where bigger then the MB support. That will also stop some possible vibrations.

Much better no ?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3515/...d1ba5e3a_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2659/...0c3e1377_o.jpg

So now, Question, Those fan will actually push down the air now. Turning them the other way around look really fugly :x What should I do ?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2575/...9d11a3e1_o.jpg

I need more feedback again on the pump/rez placement ! :D

I was thinking this for the Video card and bottom rad. I'll get some bitspower snake thingy to make a direct connection (rez/VGA).
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2618/...b5b01bbd_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3513/...247a478a_o.jpg

And the top Rad and CPU/MB, i was thinking something like this. Both rez/pump on the same side is going to be a pain because the video card goes all the way to the SATA port. And putting higher will make the top filling almost impossible to reach.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2507/...d005267d_o.jpg

once again, I appreciate all your feedback and help :) So go go :D
10-08-2009, 09:29 AM
The Viking

Can you turn that *enermax* logo (The black painted ones) the other way around? im talking about the fans now.. So that you still have that nice enermax logo the right way.

When it comes to the pump mount, why not put it in your dvdrom bays? (hope you understood me there) i guess it can be hard to fill, but thats my best idea =\
10-08-2009, 09:43 AM
Ced-G60

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Originally Posted by The Viking

Can you turn that *enermax* logo (The black painted ones) the other way around? im talking about the fans now.. So that you still have that nice enermax logo the right way.

When it comes to the pump mount, why not put it in your dvdrom bays? (hope you understood me there) i guess it can be hard to fill, but thats my best idea =\

yes i can turn them (i already did it for the top rad)

And no, I don't want the rez/pump in the 5.25 bay, i don't like it :)

I like thet way i show it, just want more feedback about it :p
10-08-2009, 10:43 AM
Wezly

Well are you comfortable filling the CPU/MB rez where you have it in the picture?

Otherwise, if you have to put it lower, which would conflict with the videocard, find a way to mount it above your floor-rad, or directly to the drive cage.

Hm, that would probably put a lot of weight on the drive cage considering you chopped its poor feet off.

May I suggest a combination of these:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=25294
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=25296

Let me know if you don't fully get my idea, but you would have the pump on fan. You would also probably have to support the rez better though.
10-08-2009, 10:56 AM
Ced-G60

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wezly

Well are you comfortable filling the CPU/MB rez where you have it in the picture?

Otherwise, if you have to put it lower, which would conflict with the videocard, find a way to mount it above your floor-rad, or directly to the drive cage.

Hm, that would probably put a lot of weight on the drive cage considering you chopped its poor feet off.

May I suggest a combination of these:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=25294
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=25296

Let me know if you don't fully get my idea, but you would have the pump on fan. You would also probably have to support the rez better though.

i have enough place for 1 rez/pump next to the 24pin ATX. I can put little under the video card level, but i will probably need a 90° barb
10-08-2009, 11:13 AM
felix_w

How's the idea of just disconnecting them (upper tank/pump) and use tubing from tank to pump ? Then u can still have the tank where you like it and the pump lower than the video card, just above the bottom rad ( u can also use a UN bracket for mounting the pump on the 4 holes of the left fan - Absolute Pump Bracket Rev. 3 & Z2 Bracket )
10-09-2009, 05:51 AM
Ced-G60

Quote:

Originally Posted by felix_w

How's the idea of just disconnecting them (upper tank/pump) and use tubing from tank to pump ? Then u can still have the tank where you like it and the pump lower than the video card, just above the bottom rad ( u can also use a UN bracket for mounting the pump on the 4 holes of the left fan - Absolute Pump Bracket Rev. 3 & Z2 Bracket )

I am thinking about placing the pump and rez separately. But I don't like those bracket too much.

I will do some testing this weekend.

Now what about those 2 fan on the bottom rad. Should i keep them this way up ? pumping air down ?
10-09-2009, 09:32 AM
felix_w

I guess that the best performance is with fans pushing air to the rad from the bottom of the case (rad placed on fans). Since you want the fans that way, i think it's better to pull air from the rad, not pump air down.

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