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08-05-2009, 01:40 AM
Chad Boga

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Originally Posted by Smartidiot89

Isn't Westmere just a code name based on the "Nehalem" architecture or am I missing something here?

Just like AMD "K10.5" is used in both Shanghai and Istanbul for example?

More like Westmere = Penryn, Nehalem = Conroe
08-05-2009, 01:46 AM
Smartidiot89

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Boga

More like Westmere = Penryn, Nehalem = Conroe

So it isn't a new architecture just a die-shrink ok :P
08-05-2009, 01:51 AM
v0dka

JCornell what is the temperature of this chip under load? I know it is ES, and that it is not fully mature perhaps, but I'm curious as to how much the die shrink balances the extra cores.
08-05-2009, 02:39 AM
Chad Boga

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smartidiot89

So it isn't a new architecture just a die-shrink ok :P

Not a new architecture and it is indeed a die-shrink, but just as Penryn came with a small IPC boost, so too should Westmere over Nehalem.
08-05-2009, 03:30 AM
saaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Boga

More like Westmere = Penryn, Nehalem = Conroe

id say more like nehalem = yorkfield :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Boga

Not a new architecture and it is indeed a die-shrink, but just as Penryn came with a small IPC boost, so too should Westmere over Nehalem.

itll be so small you wont notice it... for benching itll help though i guess... at least in some benches.

but intel made it very clear not to expect much of a boost from westmere, sandybridge is supposed to be a big perf boost iirc.
08-05-2009, 03:47 AM
Chad Boga

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

id say more like nehalem = yorkfield :)

Heh, I always think of 65nm Core 2 derivatives as simply "Conroe" and the 45nm derivatives as "Penryn", even though Intel uses different names for Dual and Quad of the same generation.
08-05-2009, 06:56 AM
Chumbucket843

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smartidiot89

So it isn't a new architecture just a die-shrink ok :P

Westmere is getting 6 new AES insructions.
08-05-2009, 07:20 AM
Vozer

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Originally Posted by Chumbucket843

Westmere is getting 6 new AES insructions.

We all know this, but... have you noticed one thing?

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...ithout_aes.png

I see no AES instructions. :shrug:

It is because CPU-Z can't detect it yet, or this CPU is still an early ES, or...?
08-05-2009, 07:33 AM
Hornet331

^
they dont have a marketing name for it right now :p

SSE4.2 was NNI (nehalem new instruction).
08-06-2009, 06:45 AM
Chri$ch

http://img2.abload.de/img/wtmintelgu...dhfx575szb.jpg

http://www.donanimhaber.com/ntelin_6...iyor-15156.htm
08-06-2009, 07:12 AM
saaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chri$ch

http://img2.abload.de/img/wtmintelgu...dhfx575szb.jpg

http://www.donanimhaber.com/ntelin_6...iyor-15156.htm

and?
whats special about that slide?
08-06-2009, 07:18 AM
FlanK3r

Think, westemere (32nm) wiil only mainstream and extreme, not middle highend....
08-06-2009, 07:42 AM
sholvaco

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Originally Posted by saaya

and?
whats special about that slide?

Something that had been previously assumed and is now official: Extreme Edition only.
08-06-2009, 07:50 AM
Chri$ch

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

and?
whats special about that slide?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sholvaco

Something that had been previously assumed and is now official: Extreme Edition only.

right.
08-06-2009, 08:08 AM
Vozer

Now let's guess its price: $999 or $1499? :D
08-06-2009, 08:19 AM
Jamesrt2004

1499
08-06-2009, 08:38 AM
iTravis

$1366
08-06-2009, 08:50 AM
saaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by sholvaco

Something that had been previously assumed and is now official: Extreme Edition only.

hows that news?
it shows up as replacing the 975 in intel roadmaps for a while... they were posted here in the news section too..
and since it will replace the 975, it wouldnt make sense if it would cost more than 999$ imo...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=231115
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/09-08-03/1a.jpg
08-06-2009, 08:54 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by sholvaco

Something that had been previously assumed and is now official: Extreme Edition only.

Which is quite uninteresting, cause everyone wants to see the Xeon roadmap, i bet theres more then one SKU based on gulftown. :yepp:
08-06-2009, 10:18 AM
Vozer

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Originally Posted by iTravis

$1366

:ROTF: :up:
08-06-2009, 11:28 AM
zalbard

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Originally Posted by iTravis

$1366

$1337 :p: :D
08-06-2009, 11:56 AM
ajaidev

If this is at $1350-$1500 its Ultra extrema price.... $999-$1250 is much better and would be a ok buy!!!

AMD can counter this by selling those 45nm hex's cheap when i say cheap i mean starting from $500-$600 or so... For the people who say this is not possible the 2.2Ghz hex Istanbul cost's around $449 on newegg.

EDIT:- Although the L3 does seems to be double to than the Hex Istanbul but the total cache "l1+l2+l3" difference is really 4MB.
08-06-2009, 12:08 PM
STRMX

+1 for 1337$
08-06-2009, 06:43 PM
Chumbucket843

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Originally Posted by STRMX

+1 for 1337$

+1 for $13.37
08-07-2009, 04:28 AM
Xoulz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chumbucket843

+1 for $13.37

:eek:

Sweet! @ that^^ price I'll take 10 ...! ;)

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