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I agree that they owe PcCI2Iminal an apology, wow :down:. He always posts good info and is a good guy. If you don't like what he posts, keep it to yourself. This is XS not podunk club clockers (PCC).Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Good info PcCI2Iminal, I put off buying until I could see how much difference the DO would make, thanks.
The Core i7 950 will replace the current 940 so the 975 due in may with an higher multiplier. So what i gather from your post is that intel should stick with i7 forever so your system is top for the next 3 yrs :rofl:. I bought a opty 3 yrs ago and the next 6 month conroe came out and beat the pants off my AMD. This is how the technology market works, if you don't like it go back to your 486. If you wanna stay on top then be prepare to spend money every 3 month or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by dejanh
AMD is gonna release 3.1 and 3,2 GHz chips soon. And looking at the OC results of those chips it aint the end of it. And i could start to hurt intel. A 3.2 GHz PHII would kick the i7 920 with performance and price. So i think intel whants to make sure i can release 3.5 and 3.6 GHz nehalems if needed so they can keep the performance gap between the fastest intel and fastest AMD chip big enough. (40% ish).
I think AMD will also be able to get 3.5 out of there 45nm tech if not more. (see K8 on 90nm at first max oc was like 2,6-2.8 later the final stepping did 3.5) And stock from 2.4 to 3.2.
I think intel wants to match AMD's clock or even beat it. And they still have higher performance per clock. So they will keep the 40% gap.
No this is not how technology works. This is apparently how technology works in the NVIDIA and Intel world where products go EOL before they decently hit the market. But, you are entitled to your opinion. Clearly either you are a brainless consumer or you do not work for your money. Otherwise this moot point would definitely concern you. I'm also sure you'd be singing a different tune had you bought a 965 or something for a grand and will soon be able to put it where the sun don't shine. But its all technology mate :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fafeifa
Anyways, since this thread has turned into a mess of babies crying for apologies I don't think there is anything more to say. Criminal was never my target and I do still disagree with posting results showing temps and such when they are clearly not correct. That fact won't change. In terms of how D0 will do, we'll all know once it's out won't we. Props to him on getting his hands on the ES chips.
4410mhz at 1.52v on AIR :up: ...Quote:
Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal
nice start slightly better than my i7 920s retail cpus on air which need 1.552v for 4410-4474mhz HT enabled 3d benching :)
Definitely temp wise D0 > C0/C1 though!
would love to see how D0s scale for CPU VTT / Bclk versus your C0/C1 retail cpus.
i.e. what cpu vtt is needed for 20x200bclk, 20x210bclk, 20x215bclk, 20x220bclk, 20x225bclk etc.
Wonder if D0 need more or less cpu vtt ?
thanks for all of you guys for the nice words but i think no need any kind of apologies,i respect his point and thats all :)
i dont care if the sensor is off but the 4640Mhz screen is real and i got it so easy ,all what i want is a good chip for overclocking and that D0 is one of the best core i7 in my collection
we can not forget where we are,here is the Xtreme Systems and we are not hardware makers ,we only make dreams and world records :) and thats why i posted that information only here(and in my blog :P)
You have a blog ? linky please :D
yes that chip is good for air :)Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
my best 920(HT on) needs 1.52v for 4350Mhz and 1.6v for 4450MHz for 3d benching
im at work now :D and i dont have that information with me but tonight i will give everything what you need :)Quote:
nice start slightly better than my i7 920s retail cpus on air which need 1.552v for 4410-4474mhz HT enabled 3d benching
Definitely temp wise D0 > C0/C1 though!
would love to see how D0s scale for CPU VTT / Bclk versus your C0/C1 retail cpus.
i.e. what cpu vtt is needed for 20x200bclk, 20x210bclk, 20x215bclk, 20x220bclk, 20x225bclk etc.
Wonder if D0 need more or less cpu vtt ?
here GeorgeQuote:
You have a blog ? linky please
http://pcci2iminal-cafe.blogspot.com/
but is portuguese :P
Dreams?
Anyways, good work and keep feeding us more!
Yeah i bet ! I have not seen much C0's do 4600 air. Mine can only do 4050 on those volts. I really hope those retail D0's can hit those speeds. I would like 4.0 GHz @ 1.2v :P nice low power setup. i now need 1.35v for 3.8 :SQuote:
Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal
for 20x200 i need 1.3vQuote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
20x201-210 -> 1.35v
and more than 210 -> 1.488v-1.5v
and for bclock @ 225 -> you are asking for the wrong guy,cz i never reached that bclock b4 :S
i own a retail 920 C0 and it can reach more than 4600MHz(1.58v) on air and for 3.8GHz i need 1.28v(prime stable) and i will keep it for my main system :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Astennu
thanks, looks like decent cpu vtt scaling there too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal
yeah both my i7 920 3836A756 can do 4600+ on air but with HT disabled, with HT enabled max 3d benchable is around 4474mhz. Max validation on air 4769mhz :D 3.8ghz is my 24/7 air clocks at 1.232-1.268vQuote:
Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...ekT2008/si.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
you are a luck guy :DQuote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
hand picked?
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Originally Posted by DerekT
nice to see that 920 running at 22x with four cores and RE2 ;)
Core i7 920 original heatsink
4200MHz(1.408v) Pi1m
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6389/046l.jpg
4400MHz(1.488v) screen
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1558/053s.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=521472
Room temp -> 17c
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2207/062.jpg
is that last pic a rice cooker? lol
:D i can fix 22 x multiplier with all cores + threads enable to with my asus rampage II extreme... nothing to deal with ;)
Please do tell how.
nah not hand picked, just dumb i7 920 beginners luck... 3836A756 was first retail i7 920 batch to arrive in Australia... i7 920 at the time weren't selling well when priced at AUD$519+ and stock was sitting on shelves. After several weeks i saw price drop to AUD$459 each, so grabbed 2x i7 920 and that's what I got = very first shipped batch that was sitting on shelves for several weeks! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal
Quote:
Originally Posted by dejanh
Were you around when the G0 65nm hit? All of the sudden Q6600's hit 3.6GHz easily instead of 3.1-3.2GHz (on the B3's), and temps were much lower. I didn't hear anybody screaming for Intel to replace their chip then. If you want the new stuff sell what you have and go get the new one.Quote:
Originally Posted by dejanh
And then when the E0 stepping hit on 45nm C2D/Q all of the sudden much less vcore was needed (as opposed to C0), and temps were a good bit lower. Also, the QX9650 was pretty much EOL (except for those using LN2) at that point as the Q9650 E0 overclocked better and ran cooler w/ less voltage at a much lower price point.
History has repeated itself once again (it seems anyway...we still need to see more retail results). Early adopters always go through this...this is the price of being on the bleeding edge. If you don't want buyers remorse don't buy the most expensive chips right when they come out, and never buy new Extreme chips. I held off on I7 for this very reason. You can still fetch a pretty penny for almost any Extreme CPU on eBay, but the value on forums like this always drops off steeply.
Would you rather Intel did nothing to improve upon their design? This is not some radical improvement. These chips aren't running 5GHz 24/7 on air or anything. So far it looks like the C2D/Q C0->E0 jump...better temps and a tad bit more speed (~100MHz).
It seems everyone else would like the i7 to run cooler and faster...why not you? Personally, I don't think having chips that run 90*C+ is acceptable, so this is a welcomed and needed improvement.
I don't think the D0 chips have a higher multiplier limit than C0. From what I've seen in this thread it just matters if your mobo has the support and you set the BIOS settings right. The 920 has the 22x w/ Turbo, so its in there...just a matter of having the right board/settings to enable it.
I will laugh when D0 changes nothing relevant
kekek multi 21.5Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
One can Only hope the i7 D0s will have similar spectacular results as mentioned above.
My G0 Q6600 did 433x9 on Air with 1.48v
My Q9650 did 510x9 on Water
My E8600 does 485x10 on Air
My i7 965 did 128x35 on Water (4.48 GHz)
If a D0 i7 920 can do 4.60GHz and above on Water I'll be ecstatic
Criminal thx for all the new info, i was in the boat of waiting for a D0 or buy the current but since ebay cashback was 25% i ended up buying a 920 for $202 with instant cash couldn't be happier with my current chips does 3.8ghz at 1.28v which is better than the norm a 3842A, i have read in some posts that is one of the worst batches. I think the batch can't tell much and we will have to wait for the end result to see which one is better. But generally how much temp drop we are talking? My load is 78C at 3.8ghz with 1.26v but it goes to the 90s at 4.0ghz.