CeBIT: Corsair raids the chassis market: competitors beware?

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03-04-2009, 12:44 AM
dinos22

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Originally Posted by mcbalaban

Not that it matters, but we had more problems with it when paired with heavy loads (overclocked rigs with CF/SLI), then we had with other similar contemporary PSUs. The cases were not predictable and sometimes one would work in one rig, and then another one would create problems in an equally specced rig elsewhere... I could never figure out what the problem was, and it may as well have not been the PSU's cause, but as some other brand PSUs at the time didn't display such whimsiness, I just didn't use them in most of the cases where a 620W PSU should have been enough. :shrug:

I'm sorry I can't give you a more technical explanation, but it was all trial-and-error based and boiled down to a gut feeling.

The single-rail TXs are pure gold though and I'm only sorry I'm slowly running out of rigs to replace PSUs in...:p:

ROFL
who are you speaking for
03-04-2009, 02:32 AM
Pt1t

http://www.matbe.com/actualites/6134...-chez-corsair/

That 's a nice case !
03-04-2009, 04:11 AM
Katanai

Well, this is a nice case. I'm glad to see Corsair also making cases now, it's never a bad idea to diversify your product line. But I don't know what people in this thread are on about. The TJ07 is still king. I don't see why you would even compare it to it. This, aesthetically speaking, is a V2000 replica so comparisons with that case would be more adequate.
03-04-2009, 05:39 AM
Vinas

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Originally Posted by Blacky

The idea is good, but that will lead to kill the simple and clean look which has brought so many attention to users, theres a feature though for a $300 case doeasn't have a removable motherboard tray!!!

Is this picture represents better what you meant?

http://i4.techpowerup.com/img/09-03-...090303_thm.png

Yeah, something clean and functional. Nothing too fancy because that would take away from the contemporary look of this case, which I really like. Maybe a flat black squared handle of sorts.
03-04-2009, 05:39 AM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by Katanai

Well, this is a nice case. I'm glad to see Corsair also making cases now, it's never a bad idea to diversify your product line. But I don't know what people in this thread are on about. The TJ07 is still king. I don't see why you would even compare it to it. This, aesthetically speaking, is a V2000 replica so comparisons with that case would be more adequate.

Even the slightly smaller, cheaper and similar looking V1010A has wheels and a removable mobo try.
03-04-2009, 06:24 AM
CodeNinja

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Originally Posted by dinos22

ROFL
who are you speaking for

It's the royal we. :shrug:
03-04-2009, 07:58 AM
Blacky

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Originally Posted by Pt1t

http://www.matbe.com/actualites/6134...-chez-corsair/

That 's a nice case !

Looking at these pics i think corsair is the only case that could fit this on top!

http://www.feser-one.com/site/images/X107-1.jpg

:D:D:D:D
03-04-2009, 08:23 AM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by Blacky

Looking at these pics i think corsair is the only case that could fit this on top!

http://www.feser-one.com/site/images/X107-1.jpg

:D:D:D:D

Look closer at the top of the HAF 932? It looks like it already has hole pre-drilled for this Radiator and Others like it.:up:

Corsair has a great Case, I'd just disagreed that the other case makers were missing any sleep over it.
03-04-2009, 08:34 AM
mele

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Originally Posted by Redbeard

We're looking into it as we speak. We might release future variants of the case targeted towards specific uses, like large diameter top/side panel fans, etc. But right now the case doesn't allow for a large top exhaust for a 230mm fan.

Keep in mind the version at CEBIT is a pre-tooling prototype and the overall features and design might change a bit between now and launch.

Should everything work out we hope to have the case in stores in early May.

Great just in time for my i7 build!

I love the whole design layout especially the cable mgmnt features!

Leave it just like it is it's perfect!

Mel
03-04-2009, 09:50 AM
cobra_kai

Just read that this case is going to be mostly steel other than the front panel. A little disappointing, for that price I would expect the body to be aluminum...
03-04-2009, 09:51 AM
Blacky

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Originally Posted by Donnie27

Look closer at the top of the HAF 932? It looks like it already has hole pre-drilled for this Radiator and Others like it.:up:

Corsair has a great Case, I'd just disagreed that the other case makers were missing any sleep over it.

I've seen the HAF personally and the corsair space between mobo and top looks a bit more bigger than HAF :) thats just me I could be wrong tho.
03-04-2009, 10:25 AM
LuckyNV

Judging by the pics I'd have to say definitely HAF has more room by a good couple of cm at least, remember HAF fits an ATX PSU at the top too, at least 2cm space at the top and 2cm space from the mobo
03-04-2009, 10:45 AM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by Blacky

I've seen the HAF personally and the corsair space between mobo and top looks a bit more bigger than HAF :) thats just me I could be wrong tho.

I saw the Case and not the Radiator so maybe you're right, I don't know for sure. It just looked like it'd fit. Look at the screw patterns? I didn't get the HAF simily because I want more shielding:up:
03-04-2009, 10:51 AM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by LuckyNV

Judging by the pics I'd have to say definitely HAF has more room by a good couple of cm at least, remember HAF fits an ATX PSU at the top too, at least 2cm space at the top and 2cm space from the mobo

No it doesn't! You have the option of using the top or bottom or Top and Bottom for redundancy.

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/prod...roduct_id=2810
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&Tpk=HAF%20932
03-04-2009, 11:00 AM
LuckyNV

Sorry what? I've had the HAF for a good 4 months or so now.
Looking at this pic
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...=677612&page=1

and then looking into my own case, I still say the HAF has a bit more room, only slightly though.
03-04-2009, 11:14 AM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by LuckyNV

Sorry what? I've had the HAF for a good 4 months or so now.
Looking at this pic
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...=677612&page=1

and then looking into my own case, I still say the HAF has a bit more room, only slightly though.

Saw PSU in the bottom, not the top. I almost bought the case but didn't.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/C...HAF_932/5.html

Edit: I also like the Square hole for Heatsink brace.
03-04-2009, 11:23 AM
Alex Suraci

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Originally Posted by Donnie27

Edit: I also like the Square hole for Heatsink brace.

The Corsair and the ATCS 840 has that as well. :) After wrestling with the V8 that's become a necessity for cases I look at.
03-04-2009, 11:32 AM
LuckyNV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donnie27

Saw PSU in the bottom, not the top. I almost bought the case but didn't.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/C...HAF_932/5.html

Edit: I also like the Square hole for Heatsink brace.

what I meant is that in the HAF you can fit an ATX PSU at the top with about 2cm room at the top to spare and about 2cm room from PSU to motherboard, just means a huge amount of space, enough to easily fit that fatty rad :)

the default location is at the bottom in the HAF because you need to remove the top 230mm fan in order to fit a PSU at the top (you can still add two 120mm fans with normal length ATX psus though)

Anyway, back on topic, someone who works for a big retailer in UK contacted Corsair about pricing, apparently initial price is £260-270! holy hell expensive :eek:
03-04-2009, 11:48 AM
Donnie27

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyNV

what I meant is that in the HAF you can fit an ATX PSU at the top with about 2cm room at the top to spare and about 2cm room from PSU to motherboard, just means a huge amount of space, enough to easily fit that fatty rad :)

the default location is at the bottom in the HAF because you need to remove the top 230mm fan in order to fit a PSU at the top (you can still add two 120mm fans with normal length ATX psus though)

Anyway, back on topic, someone who works for a big retailer in UK contacted Corsair about pricing, apparently initial price is £260-270! holy hell expensive :eek:

Hehehe, that's what I said.

Yes, back' on Topic.

I hope They listen to whats being said here as well. So far;

Pros;
Plenty of Room for just about any config.
Strikingly beautiful for folks who love that no-nonsense sleek industrial look (I do).
Black inside and out.
Easy access to HDD.
Nice Drive mounting system.
Forethought for Cable Management.

Cons;
Costs
No motherboard tray
Filters
03-04-2009, 11:50 AM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by Alex Suraci

The Corsair and the ATCS 840 has that as well. :) After wrestling with the V8 that's become a necessity for cases I look at.

Sorry, I missed your post. This is becoming a must feature in our market segment.
03-04-2009, 02:30 PM
[XC] leviathan18

i think i only would get it if they make it in alu or almost every single part in alu ( less than 10kg in weight) and they think about the PA120.3 owners
03-04-2009, 04:53 PM
Mav451

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Originally Posted by Donnie27

Hehehe, that's what I said.

Yes, back' on Topic.

I hope They listen to whats being said here as well. So far;

Pros;
Plenty of Room for just about any config.
Strikingly beautiful for folks who love that no-nonsense sleek industrial look (I do).
Black inside and out.
Easy access to HDD.
Nice Drive mounting system.
Forethought for Cable Management.

Cons;
Costs
No motherboard tray
Filters

Thanks Donnie for bringing this up. When you consider that Corsair will be focused on intaking air from the bottom, it's puzzling that there is no filter. Many of us already have a case on a desk/table to reduce dust intake. My LL PC-A70 is the first case purchase for me to have filters. It's seriously amazing how little dust there is in the case b/c of that.

And the mobo tray is what I would consider a no-brainer for the $250+ crowd. The materials, OTOH, I really don't care as long as it doesn't rattle. The LL, being my second case since 2001 (first was my 8-year old Chieftec AX-01BLD), is aluminum just like my first case and has a tendency to vibrate very easily b/c of it's weight. If steels helps it be quieter (P182 for example), then material is not much of a deal-breaker for me.
03-04-2009, 04:56 PM
Alex Suraci

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Originally Posted by Mav451

Thanks Donnie for bringing this up. When you consider that Corsair will be focused on intaking air from the bottom, it's puzzling that there is no filter. Many of us already have a case on a desk/table to reduce dust intake. My LL PC-A70 is the first case purchase for me to have filters. It's seriously amazing how little dust there is in the case b/c of that.

And the mobo tray is what I would consider a no-brainer for the $250+ crowd. The materials, OTOH, I really don't care as long as it doesn't rattle. The LL, being my second case since 2001 (first was my 8-year old Chieftec AX-01BLD), is aluminum just like my first case and has a tendency to vibrate very easily b/c of it's weight. If steels helps it be quieter (P182 for example), then material is not much of a deal-breaker for me.

They mention in the video that there will be filters for the bottom intake fan, just not in that display unit as it's a very early sample.

I agree about the removeable mobo tray though, that's pretty much a given for any case in that price range. I wouldn't be surprised at all if that's one of the things they "hadn't done yet" in time for the show.
03-04-2009, 04:58 PM
Meatpuppet

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Originally Posted by [XC] leviathan18

i think i only would get it if they make it in alu or almost every single part in alu ( less than 10kg in weight) and they think about the PA120.3 owners

Not to be contrary, but I truly hope they don't mess around with the Thermochill fan spacing. TC is making up an ever smaller fraction of the radiator market due to their higher prices and muddled supply chain; and moreover, every other significant player in the market uses the same 15mm fan spacing that TC chose to break from. I would say that TC owners should resign themselves to either buying custom TC friendly cases (like Mountian Mods), drilling their own holes, or getting those radgrill things specifically for Thermochill rads.

As for the case composition, I would naively say that an all/majority aluminum version, although sexy, would represent a significant cost increase. With this case you are paying for the SATA hotswap functionality, and painted interior whether you like it or not. Note that the Lian-Li PC-X price point starts at $370 (midtower) and consider what type of premium you would have to pay for a predominantly aluminum version of this case.

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Originally Posted by Alex Suraci

I agree about the removeable mobo tray though, that's pretty much a given for any case in that price range. I wouldn't be surprised at all if that's one of the things they "hadn't done yet" in time for the show.

I would add that I would prefer a good removable mobo tray to not having a tray, but if the tray rattles at all, messes up the side panel release, or more importantly the cable routing then I would rather do without. All things considered, mobo trays are nice, but now that producers have gone to the open space behind the backplate design they aren't as big of a deal.
03-04-2009, 06:17 PM
ChaosMinionX

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Originally Posted by [XC] leviathan18

i think i only would get it if they make it in alu or almost every single part in alu ( less than 10kg in weight) and they think about the PA120.3 owners

+1 :up:

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