Apogee GTZ

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Originally Posted by Martinm210

Not better pressure drop than a stock fuzion, although it's getting pretty close to the newer Fuzion V2. Actually most of the center inlet types will have lower restriction because you split the flow and reduce the flow rate over the pins compared to a side to side or corner to corner flow path like the apogee series. There are many blocks with lower restriction though, DD MC-TDX, XSPC Edge Acrylic, Fuzion V1 stock, and I think the Fuzion V2 Stock.

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I looked are your tests, you're right, thanks for the clarification indeed :)

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Originally Posted by Martinm210

Anyhow flow rate and restriction are not that important, I'd be much more interested in thermal performance.

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well said.

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Originally Posted by Martinm210

That we don't know, heck we don't even know what it looks like internally, so we don't know anyhthing other than it's a new product.:shrug:

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that could be fixed [Edit: arranged]

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Originally Posted by Martinm210

That we don't know, heck we don't even know what it looks like internally, so we don't know anyhthing other than it's a new product.:shrug:

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Originally Posted by gabe

that could be fixed

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You forgot to insert the picture, I think :D

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Originally Posted by gabe

that could be fixed

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I think I need to call Jupiler
( If you haven't seen a pic of him think of Arrrrrnold only younger and not quite as "cut")
He'll do the holding, I'll do the tickling..
We'll get the pics out of you!:rofl:

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Originally Posted by Mankz_91

No offence intended to Gabe, but I think it looks naff and horrible. I don't like all of the black screws etc. and I especially don't like the black top. I think it would look alot better if the black top was silver coloured, and you kept the black background to the logo.

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Tastes and colors never offend me. I am only glad you are the only one who does't - so far, but I am sure there will be others ;)

Irrespective, as it has been said very wisely in this thread, only performance will appeal to most XS members. I happen to like the looks it if matters any (I didn't design it, Stephen did) quite a bit. It looks like it means business, which it does.

For all I care, it could be lime green and purple, and shaped like my dog's turd. Makes no difference to me.

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Originally Posted by IanY

For all I care, it could be lime green and purple, and shaped like my dog's turd. Makes no difference to me.

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I'm down as long as it doesn't smell like a dogs turd... :yepp:

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Originally Posted by aspire.comptech

I'm down as long as it doesn't smell like a dogs turd... :yepp:

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Smell like dog's turd? That's fine with me. The case is covered up, so I don't smell it and I don't care :)

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Originally Posted by gabe

well said.




that could be fixed [Edit: arranged]

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Now you are talking, send one to Martin. :up:

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Originally Posted by gabe

I didn't design it, Stephen did

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Then we know it will outperform anything prior to this from Swiftech.

Ouch! Can we all just get along?

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Originally Posted by mcoffey

I'd prefer they looked nice as the GTZ does in the pics. I don't know, to me there's no "Water Cooling High Ground" to be taken by not having things look good. It's just when performance is sacrificed for looks that I detest. I don't think it's very hard to have it both ways and design a build with components that look good for a over all smooth and sharp look. The more I do this stuff, the more I appreciate good looking gear, and a build that reflects pride of ownership. With a lot of the new gear coming out, pretty easy to have both great performance and looks.

andyc

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i totally agree

anyway when can we see the internal pics gabe?:D:D:D

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Originally Posted by gabe

Tastes and colors never offend me. I am only glad you are the only one who does't - so far, but I am sure there will be others ;)

Irrespective, as it has been said very wisely in this thread, only performance will appeal to most XS members. I happen to like the looks it if matters any (I didn't design it, Stephen did) quite a bit. It looks like it means business, which it does.

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I understand where you are coming from as a company, so you have to appeal to the mass-market, so good luck!

And at the end of the day, it its an awesome block, I might just have to make a new top for it :up:

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Originally Posted by IanY

Ouch! Can we all just get along?

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I guess that came out wrong (what else is new)... I meant it as a testament to Stephen, not a dig on Gabe or Swiftech.

Nobody mentioned the awesomeness of being able to fit compression fittings? (At least with that spacing it looks like it should be able to)

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Originally Posted by nikhsub1

I guess that came out wrong (what else is new)... I meant it as a testament to Stephen, not a dig on Gabe or Swiftech.

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Understood. Thanks for clarifying.

My mistake.

so I guess the GTX will be discontinued right?
(sorry if this has been answered already, I haven't read all the posts in this thread)

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Originally Posted by IanY

Ouch! Can we all just get along?

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:rofl:

Iany you dont understand how much of a oxymoron this is coming from you.

Almost like asking the taliban, hey can we all live the enlighten way of buddah?

You know what I don't like about it, not the block, the mount.
I think the outside mount should be a really nice piece of aluminum or muted steel, as well as flat.
The bevel makes it look weird in the picture.

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Originally Posted by Logos4

so I guess the GTX will be discontinued right?
(sorry if this has been answered already, I haven't read all the posts in this thread)

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yes, we only have very few left though and they'll go on sale as soon as the GTZ starts shipping, ETA <2 weeks

Any guess on when we get to see the guts?

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Originally Posted by Eddie3dfx

You know what I don't like about it, not the block, the mount.
I think the outside mount should be a really nice piece of aluminum or muted steel, as well as flat.
The bevel makes it look weird in the picture.

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The plate is probably curved for added rigidity - always a plus.