New 45nm CPU First Look-Intel C2D E8500 4.7G On Air Cooler

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11-18-2007, 04:51 AM
KTE

Very nice work windwithme :)

*Can you run Prime 95 (dual) and not Orthos for stability please>?
*Also, what are your temps idle and priming at 4.5GHz or 4GHz after 30 minutes (and cooling)?
*And we'll wait for the chips max FSB please? :D

I can usually get a lot higher with Orthos/OCCT saying stable when its not and only P95 really pushes CPU/RAM it like a heavy game is going to. It'll error very quick in it.

WilliamE don't go high V on air. It might work OK for a few days but will start giving errors later on and you won't be able to reverse it by then. :) I would say 1.6-1.65V at max for a few runs considering you keep it very cool. 24/7 or regular has gotta be less, definitely.

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Originally Posted by Hutch

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Originally Posted by Flinch

Very nice, but.....engineering samples are far from the reality of what retail will do, and that's presuming we will stay on course with history repeating itself.

Actually if you had any idea what you were talking about you'd realize that the chips will only get better. Look at the engineering samples of C2D's and you'd find that they didn't clock as well as the retail versions. The A1 stepping of the C2D were just about all engineering samples (although I do believe they sold some A1 stepping retail chips for a week or 2 before B2.) The B2 stepping chips clocked better than the A1 (all engineering samples were A1 stepping.)

Here's a tip for ya: You may want to do a little research before making such a bold statement.

Finch has a very good point actually; "don't assume anything" because you don't mostly know what relationship an ES will have to retail. We've already seen Penryn ES samples that clock differently, b/cus they start off at different voltages (QX9650 1.1V - 1.264V).
11-18-2007, 05:47 AM
Zeus

Actually Finch' point isn't based on facts, pure speculation and doesn't hold any ground at all.

I'm so glad those Nostradamus type of guys are proven wrong by this thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=165636

Sorry to be a bit rude about it but all those guys saying Engineering Samples were much better than retail kept bothering me over the course of the last few weeks.

Here's one to them. :toast: ;) :D
11-18-2007, 07:39 AM
WilliamE

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTE

WilliamE don't go high V on air. It might work OK for a few days but will start giving errors later on and you won't be able to reverse it by then. :) I would say 1.6-1.65V at max for a few runs considering you keep it very cool. 24/7 or regular has gotta be less, definitely.

Thanks for this info.
The max VCore I have used is 1.650v :)

I have to reinstall my system before I give it a new go. (Windows won't bootanymore.)
I am allso geting a new Asus mobo and some DDR3 next week, looking forward to se how it clocks :)
11-19-2007, 07:39 AM
WilliamE

I made it! Under 10s :)
reinstall, and an evil cpu fan. :) Vcore 1.65v
http://elmenhorst.no/willy/oc/hihihi.JPG
http://elmenhorst.no/willy/oc/hehehe.JPG
11-19-2007, 08:38 AM
SeLecT

Nice!

i want this CPU too :) I think it will work nice with my Cellshock DDR3 :)
11-19-2007, 11:09 AM
Zeus

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamE

I made it! Under 10s :)
reinstall, and an evil cpu fan. :) Vcore 1.65v
http://elmenhorst.no/willy/oc/hihihi.JPG
http://elmenhorst.no/willy/oc/hehehe.JPG

Congrats mister, you even made it single channel i see.

Looks like there's not much difference in SuperPi 1M single or dual channel, just like Hipro5 said.

And eh...your computer might be at risk. :rofl:
11-19-2007, 02:11 PM
elfy

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTE

*Can you run Prime 95 (dual) and not Orthos for stability please>?

er isn't orthos a modded/based on prime95 for dualcores?
11-19-2007, 02:26 PM
KTE

Quote:

Originally Posted by elfy

er isn't orthos a modded/based on prime95 for dualcores?

Big difference between what is stable/temps of P95 and Othos/OCCT in my experience. The former is much more vigorous and duplicating intensive gaming stress for me. ;)

WilliamE: well done my friend. :)
11-19-2007, 02:34 PM
Inteleron

How long till i can get my hands on one of these?
11-19-2007, 02:59 PM
Infa

January '08
11-19-2007, 04:52 PM
Brahmzy

Aren't these ES chips unlocked though? The retail will locked with that PIA 333FSB and low multi.
11-19-2007, 06:44 PM
KTE

Well, coolaler had 570FSB on one of these chips and 563FSB for 5350 so its seems they have decent room ahead.
11-19-2007, 06:57 PM
Speederlander

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brahmzy

Aren't these ES chips unlocked though? The retail will locked with that PIA 333FSB and low multi.

Multi is 9.5 on 8500 and unlocked down. Everyone has been using the same multis we will all have access to.
11-19-2007, 07:09 PM
pH(x)

Great photos OP! 4GHz Pi in 11.61 seconds :clap:
11-20-2007, 08:22 AM
Brahmzy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speederlander

Multi is 9.5 on 8500 and unlocked down. Everyone has been using the same multis we will all have access to.

Oh crap - I din't know this - I thought the multi was 8x on the E8500. Looks the the E6600 will have to find a new home.
11-25-2007, 12:38 AM
cstkl1

dude ssjben is stealing a lot of work

his alternative nick

different nick "HostileEffect" for this forum

basket even got a link to his so called reviews

http://www.crysis-online.com/forum/i...?topic=9287.20

First offence
ripping off WWM reviews
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_...ic_id=25677733

Second offense
ripping of bst dude of lowyat.net forums 3dmark06 scores
http://ui19.gamespot.com/1810/3dmark...ncrossfire.jpg

third offense
This is definitely not his rig
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions...union_id=11552

looks like windwithme proc... can u confirm this WWM??

Fourth offense
Ripping off promoder/ moderator of lowyat.net ianho TJ07 rig and posting it as his own
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions...d=11552&page=5

what we know off him
from his blogs
he is a malaysian.
17/18years old.. just finish his national service
11-25-2007, 12:42 AM
Speederlander

Has anyone tried phase with this CPU to see the chip-side limit of the bus? Will this thing make it into the mid 500's?
11-25-2007, 12:47 AM
cstkl1

hi ppl of XS
can u guys check
whether any of these are ure work or ppl u know off
this is all ssJben so called work which the casing is a rippoff etc

this is his thread
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions...union_id=11552
11-25-2007, 01:26 AM
cstkl1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeus

Actually Finch' point isn't based on facts, pure speculation and doesn't hold any ground at all.

I'm so glad those Nostradamus type of guys are proven wrong by this thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=165636

Sorry to be a bit rude about it but all those guys saying Engineering Samples were much better than retail kept bothering me over the course of the last few weeks.

Here's one to them. :toast: ;) :D

hmm i think its because
a lot of ppl was hit by the X6800 when it was reviewed and when it came out later
during the ES stages it seems at stock voltages of 1.28-1.3v it could easily do 3.6ghz
when it retailed.. it wasnt the case
11-25-2007, 02:42 AM
Zeus

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstkl1

hmm i think its because
a lot of ppl was hit by the X6800 when it was reviewed and when it came out later
during the ES stages it seems at stock voltages of 1.28-1.3v it could easily do 3.6ghz
when it retailed.. it wasnt the case

Yeah, could be, but making any predictions based on experience of older cpu's is pointless imho.

Look at all those retail X9650's that are floating around, each and everyone of them is as good or even better than the ES.

Now if just one guy came in and said that the ES would probably be better than retail version, i would probably have told him to sit and wait before making any predictions.

For these Penryns, it seems like all these guys joined forces and massively spread the word.

This thread ended all doubt and wiped their theory of the table in true XS style.

You gotta love it. ;)
11-25-2007, 03:03 AM
cstkl1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeus

Yeah, could be, but making any predictions based on experience of older cpu's is pointless imho.

Look at all those retail X9650's that are floating around, each and everyone of them is as good or even better than the ES.

Now if just one guy came in and said that the ES would probably be better than retail version, i would probably have told him to sit and wait before making any predictions.

For these Penryns, it seems like all these guys joined forces and massively spread the word.

This thread ended all doubt and wiped their theory of the table in true XS style.

You gotta love it. ;)

kekke yeah
usuall i take most of the reviews online website with a handful of salt
till somebody post benchies on XS on retail..keke
11-25-2007, 03:15 AM
cstkl1

SSJben stealing another review
from forumer acecombat

on his palit 8800gt
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions...union_id=11552

even posting ace's 8800ultra scores as his own..
11-25-2007, 01:42 PM
Speederlander

WRONG PLACE FOR THIS.

Please post in the appropriate forum or start PMing mods. Buried in this thread no one will see it and it will just take everything off-topic.

And posting home addresses and phone numbers is bad form.
11-25-2007, 03:11 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstkl1

SSJben stealing another review
from forumer acecombat

on his palit 8800gt
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions...union_id=11552

even posting ace's 8800ultra scores as his own..

lol this guy's :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed
11-30-2007, 06:20 AM
Marios

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamE

Vore 1.6v on the last try.
MB: Asus Maximus Formula DDR2
Mem: single DDR2 Ocz PC2 8000 / Geil PC25300

I can't get it up and running with dual mem, only single.
I am stile trying to find the Max FSB.
My max for now is 480, but I think it's more to go. I just have to figure out how.. :)

Do you still have this problem with dual mem?
Is this general with DDR2 based mobos or is it just your bios?

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