Official Water Cooling Thread of the Stock Maximus SE ROG NB Club:

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11-18-2007, 01:12 PM
jonny_ftm

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuke2u

EDIT: Decided to go for it in the end, seemed to make more sense to do now then have to dis-assemble it all again...

Yep, that's what I meant, it will be a big hassle to unmount everything few months later, hope it will give you the head room you miss now

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSamurai

i'm a noob too with watercooling and whatnot... it was definately worth it. i went with Artic Silver MX-2

Arctic Cooling MX-2, not same brand as Arctic Silver
;)
Just looking too mouch on the details :D
11-18-2007, 01:14 PM
jonny_ftm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malik

I'm using 8/10 tubing, and fittings - like this LINK

Thanks Dude ;)

It will also fit 1/2-3/4 more adapted for LPDC (12.7-19)
11-18-2007, 01:15 PM
TheSamurai

sorry, typo... Artic COOLING MX-2 like jonny pointed out! :)
11-18-2007, 02:55 PM
Pete

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malik

Conclusion:

There is no problem to remove asus cooling - of course when you use for example a hair dryer :) Swiftech mcw30 fit ok.

Big thanks for Pete :)

LOL nice one dude, the MC30's look nice. I might have to getsome if EK doesnt hurry up soon. I might sell my bord now as it's a working naked X38. If i get a new one then hair dryer for a min i guess so i the IHS stays. Thanks for PM'ing me to show me. Nice one dude

Pete
11-19-2007, 05:19 AM
jonny_ftm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

LOL nice one dude, the MC30's look nice. I might have to getsome if EK doesnt hurry up soon. I might sell my bord now as it's a working naked X38. If i get a new one then hair dryer for a min i guess so i the IHS stays. Thanks for PM'ing me to show me. Nice one dude

Pete

I don't see your NB temperatures on Talonman list. I was curious to see how hot is your naked X38. With C2D, naked CPUs yieded a temperature gain of up to 5-10°C. It could be interesting if these X38 get IHS less so easy

@Talonman:
As the thread is getting longer, you should post the temperatures results in the first post for new comers to be easy to consult
11-19-2007, 06:58 AM
TheSamurai

i agree with jonny, just keep updating the first post... it will make it easier on you and everybody else!! :)
11-19-2007, 08:44 AM
Talonman

Sounds good boy's, I'm on board with that!!

Done........ :up:

Stolen from the other thread: ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leithfield

Some data re WCing the Fusion Block here:
http://www.virtual-hideout.net/revie...e/index6.shtml
"And what about the Fusion chipset water block integrated in to the heat pipes? While the temperatures were typically around 42 C idle and 52 C load, water cooling didn't bring the temperatures down quite as far as hoped. The temps dropped about 6 C, but this didn't afford any extra performance in terms of overclocking. This isn't really a big surprise given the design of the integrated Fusion. Every water block to cross the test bench in the past year have all had a matrix machined in to the block's copper internal base. The Fusion has a flat internal surface which means there isn't any kind of turbulence or have an increase of surface area that would draw more heat for the water to carry away. In all truth, this isn't so much a bad thing since it really means that the system is optimally tuned and really could have done without the extra block."

I think also lets us know that we may not need an Xtreme cooling solution, but still be able to OC as much as our individual CPU's will allow?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate P.

So the stock ASUS block is acually good?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiggy McShades

from what im doing so far it is actually decent. i've heard the change from 1/2 to 3/8 tubing has a very low effect on performance, but that is the only downside so far. im doing the fusion block and an apogee gtx on a pa120.3 powered by a ddc2 with an alpha cool modded top so im not too worried about restriction. from what i can tell the block is safe to use and it is decent performance wise if you don't want to risk ruining your board because it is VERY firmly attached. i suggest anyone removing it to be EXTREMELY careful i originally planned to use an mcw30 but i gave up after 20 minutes of trying to remove it safely. i saw one person tear the whole chip set off removing it and then just gave up.

Another good ROG report!
11-19-2007, 09:42 AM
Malik

MIPS-COMPUTER blocks, price: 159 EUR

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/3...musfulldb4.jpg

EK Waterblock answer:

1. EK-NB/SB ASUS 3 - Acetal, price 32.95EUR

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/772/nbsbasus3fq5.jpg

2. EK-NB S-MAX Acetal, price 30.95EUR

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9609/nbmaxsxs1.jpg
11-19-2007, 03:41 PM
Talonman

Malik, I know your not running the ROG stock cooling any more, but post up the data I need to make your entry on the list.

I want to know what the loaded NB temp is now, using the blocks in your rig. :)

I will list it and note that this is a non stock cooling entry....

We can use it as a good reference.
11-19-2007, 04:27 PM
nikhsub1

Holy Crap! I removed my whole contraption like Malik, slapped my MCW30 on the NB and load NB temps are as I sit here 25C. Before with the fuzion block NOT HOOKED UP load NB temps were anywhere from 41-52C.
11-19-2007, 04:34 PM
safan80

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikhsub1

Holy Crap! I removed my whole contraption like Malik, slapped my MCW30 on the NB and load NB temps are as I sit here 25C. Before with the fuzion block NOT HOOKED UP load NB temps were anywhere from 41-52C.

pics?
11-19-2007, 04:37 PM
TheSamurai

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikhsub1

Holy Crap! I removed my whole contraption like Malik, slapped my MCW30 on the NB and load NB temps are as I sit here 25C. Before with the fuzion block NOT HOOKED UP load NB temps were anywhere from 41-52C.

try it under load with occt beta and the slider all the way to ram...
11-19-2007, 05:06 PM
nikhsub1

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSamurai

try it under load with occt beta and the slider all the way to ram...

My computer is always under load running SETI... but I ran the OCCT with the slider to RAM for about 10 mins (damn that makes the comp slow lol), NB temps don't budge off 25C :D
11-19-2007, 05:08 PM
ElEctric_EyE

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikhsub1

Holy Crap! I removed my whole contraption like Malik, slapped my MCW30 on the NB and load NB temps are as I sit here 25C. Before with the fuzion block NOT HOOKED UP load NB temps were anywhere from 41-52C.

Damn nice!
11-19-2007, 05:10 PM
ElEctric_EyE

I did a test with OCCT on CPU only, my system lasted only 5 mins. This is bad isnt it? Temps only got up avg45 on CPU. I don't get it.
11-19-2007, 05:11 PM
Talonman

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikhsub1

My computer is always under load running SETI... but I ran the OCCT with the slider to RAM for about 10 mins (damn that makes the comp slow lol), NB temps don't budge off 25C :D

Gasp.... 25C!! loaded!! wow

Origional post listing updated.

Thanks for the info.

opps Crapp, what is your current NB voltage set to.
11-20-2007, 06:51 AM
TheSamurai

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikhsub1

My computer is always under load running SETI... but I ran the OCCT with the slider to RAM for about 10 mins (damn that makes the comp slow lol), NB temps don't budge off 25C :D

nice, very nice... making me think i need one. :D
11-20-2007, 07:45 AM
Talonman

I know the feeling. A Loaded NB at 25C has rocked my stock ROG cooling world... ;)

I am hoping Malik reports his loaded NB temps, so we have conformation that the loaded 25C neighborhood, is where the high end block boys are hanging out.

I have my stock ROG remount project on hold until I complete my sole searching to decide my next move.

I have a feeling I might be jumping totally out of the stock ROG club now...

To TheSamurai: If you jump in too, dont keep your part numbers a secret. I would probably order the same gear as you. ;)

It would be nice if can find all our parts from 1 store.

I would need:
1 NB block and backplate.
1 SB block and backplate.
2 MOSFET blocks and backplates.
1 CPU backplate.
Any spacers if backplates require them.

Totoal cost for leaving the stock ROG cooling behind = $???.??
Still need to work on that! ;)

Curse that 25C!!!
I said at the beginning of this thread, I only seek the truth.
If the truth turnes out to be 25C vs 49C, then we have some searous food for thought.
11-20-2007, 08:19 AM
Jedda

Weird, the Asus-3 block Malik shows and EK lists for X38 has its pins different to the S/B block on the board,
The board's S/B block has its pins like EK Asus-1 or Asus-2.

But when you go to Eddy's site and look he has two different pics of the new Asus-3 and the second install pic has the pins the right way round.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/sulk/EKx38.jpg

Guess its wait and see time?
11-20-2007, 08:33 AM
nikhsub1

Hehe, right now my NB temps are down to 21C but it is quite chilly in my office with the windows open. My NB voltage is 1.52v, FSB is 400 x 9 and water cooling the SB is a total waste of money, flow and effort IMO. My SB temp with a passive aluminum sink borrowed from my P5W DH is keeping it at 28C, ive never seen it higher than 35C. I do like how the ROC can come off yet leave the sinks on the mosfets at the top.... IMHO the stock ROC is garbage marketing gimmick.
11-20-2007, 08:44 AM
Renegade5399

See now people keep saying this. I believe it is a crapshoot. I must have gotten lucky and mine was glued down correctly or something. I tightened the 4 screws before I mounted the board in my case. I ran on air for a bit and saw temps up into the high 40's under load. Then I just simply plumbed the Fusion block into my loop and now the load temp never breaks 36°C and that's is when my ambient is 26°C due to the heat being on in the apartment. Right now, at folding load, with a 24°C ambient at 1.45v, my NB is at 29°C. I can't complain about the stock cooling TBH. It works well for me.
11-20-2007, 09:05 AM
Talonman

I think your Intel Core2Duo E6850 is helping with your NB temp some?

Mine will have to deal with a Q6600 Go.

But I do believe in the crapshoot variable too.

I am sure under a well designed test using all stock cooling with no remount, the MOBO's temps would vary quite a bit.
11-20-2007, 09:09 AM
Talonman

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikhsub1

Hehe, right now my NB temps are down to 21C but it is quite chilly in my office with the windows open. My NB voltage is 1.52v, FSB is 400 x 9 and water cooling the SB is a total waste of money, flow and effort IMO. My SB temp with a passive aluminum sink borrowed from my P5W DH is keeping it at 28C, ive never seen it higher than 35C. I do like how the ROC can come off yet leave the sinks on the mosfets at the top.... IMHO the stock ROC is garbage marketing gimmick.

Thanks for the info buddy!! :)

I think.... ;)
11-20-2007, 09:12 AM
Talonman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedda

Weird, the Asus-3 block Malik shows and EK lists for X38 has its pins different to the S/B block on the board,
The board's S/B block has its pins like EK Asus-1 or Asus-2.

But when you go to Eddy's site and look he has two different pics of the new Asus-3 and the second install pic has the pins the right way round.

Guess its wait and see time?

Thanks for bringing this up.

I want to order the correct NB block for sure.... :up:
11-20-2007, 09:15 AM
Pete

SB is different due to the caps around the SB, NB is differnt as the 4 holers are closer togther.

All the Asus X38 EK blocks are on the way to me as we speak, big thanks to EK for that!

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