X38 and Areca cards

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Originally Posted by IanB

Clearly not full of BS, as you just proved my case. Thanks!

Since I'm in the market for a hardware RAID card, and the Arecas are important contenders, but have obvious issues with current and future boards/chipsets, this is of interest to me. As should be checking the bandwidth requirements of any RAID set to ensure it doesn't max out the card/slot for those of us going this route. I think I'll stick around this thread, therefore, if your lordship doesn't mind.

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the problem with areca cards and the X38 is the fault of intel. the card worked fine with my p35 and it works fine in other boards.

Ace,Ian:
Both you guys seem to be decent people.
Start fresh and shake hands.
Remember, friends first ok..
Yes, I do sound like your mother..
I'll say it for you.:rofl:

done!..we shaked hands in a PM.

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

done!..we shaked hands in a PM.

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Thank you sir..:up:

I am embarrased by my comments which were unworthy of me. I am well aware that Ace's experienced opinion IS worth a damn and I never meant to suggest otherwise. I'm happy he has accepted my apology anyway.

Thanks for the intervention, Movieman.

I got a Adaptec 31205 pci-e x8 kontroller, and i have a LSI pcie-x4 kontroller.

Testet with my Abit x38 MB. Adaptec 31205 works in the blue pci.e 2.0 slot and the LSI works in the black pci-e 1.1 slot!!

This was the best day for me!

So on my ix38 i have 8800 ultra, LSI sas pci-e x4 and Adaptec pci-e x8 :D

And 8 Seagate 15k.5 73 gb :)

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Originally Posted by IanB

I am embarrased by my comments which were unworthy of me. I am well aware that Ace's experienced opinion IS worth a damn and I never meant to suggest otherwise. I'm happy he has accepted my apology anyway.

Thanks for the intervention, Movieman.

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you were sick with the flu.

i should have been more tolerant with your expressed views...i just read to much between the lines which set me off...sorry for my tiraded post.

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Originally Posted by Nizzen

I got a Adaptec 31205 pci-e x8 kontroller, and i have a LSI pcie-x4 kontroller.

Testet with my Abit x38 MB. Adaptec 31205 works in the blue pci.e 2.0 slot and the LSI works in the black pci-e 1.1 slot!!

This was the best day for me!

So on my ix38 i have 8800 ultra, LSI sas pci-e x4 and Adaptec pci-e x8 :D

And 8 Seagate 15k.5 73 gb :)

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GEEZ!...what a system!:up:

Please can someone help me!:shakes:

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Originally Posted by koc

I have areca raid card 1210-8X PCI-Express

work very fine with GA-X38-DQ6 w/3XRaptors Raid0

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Originally Posted by darkstar757

Please can someone help me!:shakes:

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the 1210 card is working for this dude!

Which would be the better card card for the Abit IX38 where only 1 graphics card slot is being used.

AMCC 3Ware 9650SE-4LPML Serial ATA II Hardware RAID Controller Kit 4-port

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Areca ARC-1210, 4 Port PCI-E SATAII RAID Controller

Anything else I should be considering?

Thanks.

areca released a firmware and bios update for all their cards 1.44 http://www.areca.com.tw/support/main.htm which now allows me to get into the bios on my X38.

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Originally Posted by safan80

areca released a firmware and bios update for all their cards 1.44 http://www.areca.com.tw/support/main.htm which now allows me to get into the bios on my X38.

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Now that is good news...thanks sanfan

I have a maximus extreme i will try.

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Originally Posted by lowbid

Now that is good news...thanks sanfan

I have a maximus extreme i will try.

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make sure you use the updater to update all 3 files and do the firmware last because it requires a reboot.

confirm.. asus maximus extreme and areca 1210 statup BIOS entering works now

about TIME! with 1.44 firmware

I just have a couple of questions guys, I just use my system for playing games, and like them to load as fast as pssable, now I know that ram cpu ect are all factors, but do these Areca cards make much of a differance compared to say the onboard raid on most Motherboards?

I run an x38 as well and was thinking about investing in an Areca Card

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Originally Posted by safan80

make sure you use the updater to update all 3 files and do the firmware last because it requires a reboot.

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thanks i will try it.Z3R0-CooL good to hear you got it working and it was only a firmware update...thanks lowbid

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Originally Posted by REVHEAD

I just have a couple of questions guys, I just use my system for playing games, and like them to load as fast as pssable, now I know that ram cpu ect are all factors, but do these Areca cards make much of a differance compared to say the onboard raid on most Motherboards?

I run an x38 as well and was thinking about investing in an Areca Card

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The simple answer is NO, for non-parity RAID such as RAID 0 or RAID 1 (mirror). The CPU overhead that you can offload to a dedicated card only becomes an issue with parity RAID, 5 or 6, as it's calculating that parity (getting the data of a particular byte in a stripe for every disk in the RAID set, then doing an XOR or similar operation on those bytes, then writing it out to the parity stripe/disk or checking it against the previously calculated parity byte there) that is time-intensive when it's done only in software.

Check the Hardware/Storage subforum for in-depth discussion on this. But bottom line: if you are using disks that your mobo Southbridge supports in RAID and are only using RAID 0 or 1, you are better off saving the money or adding more disks to your RAID set for more speed. A RAID card would be wasted.

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Originally Posted by Z3R0-CooL

confirm.. asus maximus extreme and areca 1210 statup BIOS entering works now

about TIME! with 1.44 firmware

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Could you tell me how you did it?

I flashed all 3 files using the web service to version 1.44 and I still get the BIOS not found error on boot-up. I have it plugged into the second pci 16 slot w/ no hard drives attached. I don't want to attach my hard drives until I know for sure that at boot-up my Areca BIOS is found. Any suggestions?

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Originally Posted by IanB

The simple answer is NO, for non-parity RAID such as RAID 0 or RAID 1 (mirror). The CPU overhead that you can offload to a dedicated card only becomes an issue with parity RAID, 5 or 6, as it's calculating that parity (getting the data of a particular byte in a stripe for every disk in the RAID set, then doing an XOR or similar operation on those bytes, then writing it out to the parity stripe/disk or checking it against the previously calculated parity byte there) that is time-intensive when it's done only in software.

Check the Hardware/Storage subforum for in-depth discussion on this. But bottom line: if you are using disks that your mobo Southbridge supports in RAID and are only using RAID 0 or 1, you are better off saving the money or adding more disks to your RAID set for more speed. A RAID card would be wasted.

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Thanks ,this explains everything to me , its all clear now , I guess it looks like I wont need a raid card then ;)

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Originally Posted by IanB

if you are using disks that your mobo Southbridge supports in RAID

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Just to clarify - that's the important caveat. Check compatability first around the forums, see if anyone has had problems with particular drive models on your mobo. I'm thinking of the well-known Asus P5K Premium issues here, that's my situ and I need a RAID card simply to overcome that and be sure I can attach recent disks (Samsung/WD) without problems. But I think you're using GigaByte, so you should be fine with most makes. :up:

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Originally Posted by Z3R0-CooL

confirm.. asus maximus extreme and areca 1210 statup BIOS entering works now

about TIME! with 1.44 firmware

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yep it works with new firmware 1.44 on a maximus extreme in the white slot.

thanks guys

hello

Scuse my language, i'm french.

is what some of you have activated the raid mode Intel with their card controler ?

Can you get to Intel matrix storage (CRTL+I)

Thanks