Intel's 45nm Prices & Performance

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Originally Posted by dinos22

i don't :shrug:
just working the figures as they are shown that's all

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It clear shows members joined on May 2006 are the cultest people over here.

Q9450 looks a great deal! like the E6600 was for the dual-core chips

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Originally Posted by dinos22

also when you calculate the percentage power consumption jump during load compared to idle you find that the new gen chip jumps by 38.5% whereas the current gen chip only jumps buy 31% >>> i can see some positive and negative connotations here

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Might also be caused by the improved sleep state of Penryn -> hence lower
idle consumption. The total consumption is also better, so I don't see negatives
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Originally Posted by Morais

Q9450 looks a great deal! like the E6600 was for the dual-core chips

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It is quite tempting to go for it in January but I must hold myself for Nehalem in the 2nd quarter of 2008. I hope my E6600 will last some time till Nehalem comes out.

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Originally Posted by Metroid

It is quite tempting to go for it in January but I must hold myself for Nehalem in the 2nd quarter of 2008. I hope my E6600 will last some time till Nehalem comes out.

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Same situation here. :yepp:

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Originally Posted by BeardyMan

For current 65nm C2D users i don't see any reasons why to spoil money on something hardly better :)

For overclockers it's an other case :D

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Maybe for C2Q? ;)

Not one of those myself...yet

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Originally Posted by Metroid

It clear shows members joined on May 2006 are the cultest people over here.

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erm ok :confused:

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Originally Posted by Frank M

Might also be caused by the improved sleep state of Penryn -> hence lower
idle consumption. The total consumption is also better, so I don't see negatives
here.

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yeah maybe
if that was the case it would be good for sure...as most systems idle predominantly anyways

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Originally Posted by Brother Esau

I'm good and waiting on Dual Barcelona server set up 2X 55w:yepp:

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When? 2010? :D

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Originally Posted by Metroid

It is quite tempting to go for it in January but I must hold myself for Nehalem in the 2nd quarter of 2008. I hope my E6600 will last some time till Nehalem comes out.

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Pretty sure Nehalem is a Q3/4 product, not Q2 (unless AMD pulls something out of their a$$ to compete w/ Intel's existing lineup better).

whats the dif betwen nehalm and these ?

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Originally Posted by ronaldor9

whats the dif betwen nehalm and these ?

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These are tweaked 45nm Core 2. Nehalem is 45nm Core 3 so to say.

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Originally Posted by Frank M

Might also be caused by the improved sleep state of Penryn -> hence lower
idle consumption. The total consumption is also better, so I don't see negatives
here.

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that's something along the lines of what I tried to say :up:
maybe idle consumption is just LOWER than expected and total power consumption is normal.

@ronaldor9
imo nehalem is more of a server product, featuring smt (a reintroduction of hyper threading that is), csi (aka quick path), an imc and allowing 8 core MCM, because it's a native QC.

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Originally Posted by Shintai

These are tweaked 45nm Core 2. Nehalem is 45nm Core 3 so to say.

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Core 3 Trio? :rofl:

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Originally Posted by mstp2009

Pretty sure Nehalem is a Q3/4 product, not Q2 (unless AMD pulls something out of their a$$ to compete w/ Intel's existing lineup better).

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QFT! Same thing I've been hearing what folks at Intel is saying. About this time Next Year for Nehalem. :yepp:

Also keep in mind that as more software is optimized for just some of Penryn's new features the performance gap between it and Conroe will widen. If AMD got what they expected out of Barkie, we'd see Penryns right now, if not last month.

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Originally Posted by Spawne32

Core 3 Trio? :rofl:

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Watch OUT! The Green team will be on your @$$ for those kinds of cracks.:rofl: :ROTF:

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Originally Posted by Spawne32

Core 3 Trio? :rofl:

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Tricore? nah, it will be a "true" Quad :p: :rofl: :p:

Another Preview with Benchies:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7711/xspenkensr0.jpg

http://www.hardware.info/en-US/artic...ance_preview/3

Power comsumption is great.

eh... Intel's 4nm prices will be low but what about 65nm prices? I wonder about Intel is going to finish Allendale manufacture or not?

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Originally Posted by mstp2009

Pretty sure Nehalem is a Q3/4 product, not Q2 (unless AMD pulls something out of their a$$ to compete w/ Intel's existing lineup better).

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true. :)

i think i will skip nehalem and buy my next pc 2009. :yepp: (maybe octocore? :D )

What do you guys guess, what will the lower clocked "celerons" be? 1066 bus and muly 6-9?

Any word on EIST? will it now go below 6 multy?
Cause of higher FSB.

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Originally Posted by XS Janus

What do you guys guess, what will the lower clocked "celerons" be? 1066 bus and muly 6-9?

Any word on EIST? will it now go below 6 multy?
Cause of higher FSB.

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Hmm.... so where is my book of dream interpretations... aha!

Celerons will be single-core CPUs on 800MHz; clocks: from 2GHz to 2.6GHz; 1Mb Cache L2... No reason for putting Cels on 1066MHz bus.

Dreams also show me the lowest multy (during Speed Step) will be x6.

But remember: dreams are always so obscure!..

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Originally Posted by Metroid

It is quite tempting to go for it in January but I must hold myself for Nehalem in the 2nd quarter of 2008.

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Yes exactly same situation here^^

I don't know if I will be able to hold myself back from buying an E8400 x38 etc :slobber:

Fantastic, I love these huge caches. FSB still needs more attention, just like it always has. 1600mhz fsb shouldnt be too much farther away.