btw Top Nurse welcome to xc liquid cooling section
ranker, there's a philippine term we call "Pikon" for statements made by RickCain...
can't find english translation yet, will research some more.;..
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btw Top Nurse welcome to xc liquid cooling section
ranker, there's a philippine term we call "Pikon" for statements made by RickCain...
can't find english translation yet, will research some more.;..
septim,
"Pikon," in Tagalog? Like in "Galit" ? as in a guy who easily gets angered and gets upset often? (rest of you... Pikon is derived from piqued.. as in upset)
Sounds just like me !! :)
FANBOYISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
<<<runs and hides -:sofa:
top nurse... what you dont get is if people asks for TOP PERFORMACE dont recomend AC because there is no performance in AC products the top of rads are themorchill pa series the top in pumps are iwaki and the top in blocks are from dtek swiftech and cathar and i can assure you i could build a dead silent loop without AC parts you just have to use common sense and all the info that is in this forum will help you to achieve that...
the only thing you might argue with me is the control unit from AC but as ranker posted there are other solutions
why i should get products with subpar performance with "looks" and expensive to get in this side of the world , when there are a lot better alternatives???
“Pikon” is a useful Tagalog word meaning something like “bad loser”
lucky ian for him you werent there [H]
using left hand to type is a chore. right hand carrying sick baby to sleep. slight fever while teething i think...
Sorry for the teething, Septim.
Be assured its perfectly normal and will pass over. Do watch for the ears.. because teething usually comes along with ear pulling.. and you know what's next...
arg he's pulling my ears.... gud nyt guys and gals...
ranker,
The next time I'm in the Washington area, I think I'll buy you lunch :) Dude, go pick on someone your intellectual equivalent, please :)
You see, you probably interned around room 202A of the Cannon House Office Building, and I'm an avid donor to the RNC. Yes, I even have a personalized signed and numbered autographed from W. Even then, we can agree to disagree and still have a constructive, logical debate and then toast to drinks afterwards.
These guys are something else. If they disagree, you become the enemy !
wow. internet is serious business
mmmm cant afford it, i think in my loop case it would be the other way around. Because i can afford this:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_0721.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_0718.jpg
AS for the reason why idont buy AC. Because i can get FAR better, for FAR LESS.
We live in a capitalistic world. Given my CPU's and systems are excessive, at least they can live up to the reputation KING of performance.
AC can only live by what? KING of looks? Im sorry, why would you want to drive a Lambo with a civic engine? If your dropping 700 dollars on a complete H2O system, wouldnt you expect the car to do 0-60 in sub 2 sec?
You can have that yaris you guys were talking about. We may get to the same destination at the same time, however, i will be with some uber hot chick, to the same destination, while most likely you will be with your mom.
im also with ranker 100% at this. AC products just arent worth the price. The only people who should even be looking at the coolplex XT DI, is people like me with RD-30's or dual DDC-2.
Also dont even start saying my system is subpar to AC. I'll kill it at any temperature, any config.
In Fact, i think i'll go post over there and help ranker out a bit. Usually my pictures end the discussion over at Anandtech.
Ouch :) Naekuh strikes back ! :)
this $hit cracks me up....
Oh incase you want RAW numbers here:
100% loaded kentsfield @ 1.475 bios
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/NewTemps.jpg
My 3.75ghz validation /w old h2o loop. It was subpar to my current one:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...omorla/3-1.jpg
My favorate, OMFG APOGEE GTX Pwnerz pic:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p.../ApogeeGTX.jpg
those numbers look good to me on a custom setup. I dont see good numbers on the AC yet. :T
Care to post?
BTW, welcome to liquid cooling! We take things seriously here.
oh incase your wondering, That is the legendary RD-30 you guys were talking about. And yes i was the one that lead the second wave in getting them. I wanted a Cathar G5, but there impossible to find. So i got the next most expensive thing.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_0658.jpg
You wanna still say the AC product will be better then my PA120.3 + RD-30 on yates DH, in push/pull config, off a ApogeeGTX bowed.
Because if you can prove to me its better, i have about 1200 i can drop. But i dont see the point in it. If i wanted all that pretty stuff, id get an astek. Or even better, id drop 500 on newls1 and have him design me a OMGWTFBBQ external case, which would put that AC to shame.
But thats how things work in XS. If it hasnt been done excessively yet, its bound to happen soon.
Look at iany and his WCG farm. EXCESSIVE!!
:P
Reminds me of the "Mother of all Battles" :)
<<<<<looks up as he hears the rounds passing over head...............
"I feel sorry for the sorry S.o.B. on the receiving end."
Shock and Awe :D
wow the admins are taking a long time activing my account over at [H]
i dont want to sound like a :banana::banana::banana::banana:. But honestly i would like to hear the guys over at AC answer my questions.
i think i answered them all in my posts:
did it increase my overclocking: yes i got 3.75 while i could normally only do 3636
Did the benifit do anything?
I think a intel engineer once said, every 10C you drop your temps off your load on your cpu, you effectivly double the life of the processor. <-- i dont know where this link and proof went. I had one posted at Anandtech. Im considered the nikhsub1 over there incase you want to know.
Was it worth it?
Hells yeah, lets see you drop a overclocked quad kentsfield on that AC system. Can we hear crying??? i think i do when i see the load temps in the upper mid 60's when you overclock that system near my specs.
So lets do the math from a financial standpoint: mid 60's to low 50's thats about a 15C coretemp reduction. A bit wayyyyyyy more then your 3-5C.
PS, you guys are looking at coretemp correct? because if your using the bios monitor. You guys need to take overclocking101 all over again. Your way behind the technology. Even Iany's upgraded his method section in his overclocks. :rofl:
So PLEASE show me something that would merit the 600 dollar price tag on that radiator unit alone. Im dying to see why you guys are going on and on about this product.
PS. im actually interested in a coolplex XT DI. But i would only put it on my RD-30. I dont think ANY of you guys over there can say my same statement.
LOL. If only they read posts you've made about XS people... kudos for the PR attempt.
Most of the time, as people age, they become conservatives. You know what they say, "if you aren't a liberal when you're young, you're heartless. If you aren't conservative when you get old, you're stupid." I still love you anyway Iany. One of my closest confidants I made up on the Hill happened to be a republican.Quote:
ranker,
The next time I'm in the Washington area, I think I'll buy you lunch Dude, go pick on someone your intellectual equivalent, please
You see, you probably interned around room 202A of the Cannon House Office Building, and I'm an avid donor to the RNC. Yes, I even have a personalized signed and numbered autographed from W. Even then, we can agree to disagree and still have a constructive, logical debate and then toast to drinks afterwards.
These guys are something else. If they disagree, you become the enemy !
I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion and their way to live their lifestyle. The only thing that really ticks me off is when people are misled. In this specific issue over on [H] I feel as if people are being misled solely for the satisfaction of the people who own AC products.
I'm still waiting for Top Nurse, Rick, Aqua-PCs, Slame, Shoggy to back up their misinformation with some facts.
Aqua Pcs in regards to a complete AC setup vs a D-Tek CPU, Swiftech GPU/Chipset setup, DDC-2 pumps:
Here Aqua-Pcs spreads more FUD stating that D-Tek/Swiftech blocks won't benefit from the Aquaero. The Aquaero is not limited to use with only AC waterblocks. I'm surprised an owner of a store who claims to have years of experience and be completely objective in his advice can make such a faulty claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqua-Pcs
After debunking their initial claims I offer them a challenge:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqua-Pcs
What followed was more spin, more BS, and nothing to back up their claims that AC was better/as good as a D-Tek/GTX block.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranker
An excerpt for more misinformation from Top Nurse. She decides to rail on the suggested alternative T-Balancer/BigNG and claims that Aquaero was the first revolutionary product that let one control pumps and fans... gee The T-Balancer was released in 2004. I wonder what company came first. Stick to the facts please TN. Aquaero is the one good thing from AC, but please don't make stuff up.
Ahh so Shoggy, an AC representative, begins the 3C mantra as the difference between an all AC setup vs a setup consisting of the top performance parts.. and of course begins to rail on the USA. I'm sorry Shoggy, but there are many countries out there that use non-AC products so let's not turn this into "My country is better than yours HAHA" type of poop fest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Nurse
[QUOTE]...except in this case the $5,000 performs better than the $50,000 car. If a Pinto beat out a BMW M3 and costs $5,000 vs $50,000... I wonder what's the better investment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoggy
So Slame, another AC representative, FINALLY responds to my challenge of finding a review that puts AC ahead of a D-Tek/Swiftech/DDC solution ...by claiming that reviews are all biased. I guess if you can't man up with the proof, you attack the question itself right?
...Not sure what the "gimme the same rig..." statement is supposed to say. But I assume he's saying, AC can overclock higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by slame
Welcome here, Top Nurse :) Glad you are here and we will all get to know each other in due course :)