nikhsub1
Thanks much for the great photos and in depth analysis. It is VERY much appreciated and well done mate.
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nikhsub1
Thanks much for the great photos and in depth analysis. It is VERY much appreciated and well done mate.
good pointQuote:
Originally Posted by D_o_S
i am yet to do mine and that is a good question
maybe someone can address it before i do mine lol
Still looking for a reply to my question...
I think you tighten the screws all the same. That way it creates the most equal bow that will have the greatest effect.
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Originally Posted by D_o_S
that's what i didQuote:
Originally Posted by sick_g4m3r
quarter of a turn each until i could not tighten any more :eek: :D
APOGEE BOWED :eek:
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5...eebowedcd2.jpg
Obviously it works, but it just looks and feels wrong on so many levels....
looks like it should leak, IMHOQuote:
Originally Posted by Angry_Steel
don't jinx me dude :D
It won't leak. The O-ring seal is now tighter than ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
Here's how I did it:
http://www.pcmoddingmy.com/e107_plug...?content.408.3
With the Apogee GT (not GTX) I think it makes absolutely no difference which way you attempt to bow the direction to. The side with the mounting plate sticking out will have a larger bow than the side without because the mounting plate in that direction is stronger. The mounting plate side parallel to the barbs (the side with no mounting plate edge sticking out) will have a lesser bow because the mounting plate actually bows in the opposite direction of the baseplate bow, thus lessening the actual bow of the base plate in that particular direction. The acetal top will also bow in the opposite direction following the mounting plate on top.
The Apogee GTX i believe 'might' have a more even bow though, because the top is solid aluminium and its strength is more evenly distributed in both bowing directions. Still then, the drawback of the LGA775 socket retaining design still creates some degree of IHS deformation which may affect the end result of how the bowed baseplate is mated to the IHS.
Sorry:DQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I realize the nice think O-ring will prevent leaks...
I tried the EK o-ring on my FuZion..... SWEET!! Dropped me a good 3-4C right on rebooting. Ceramique is not even cured yet!!
EK O-ring on top of the inlet of the fuzion, right??
3-4C is amazing!!! Is your CPU lapped?
will bowing work for the q6600 in the same fashion?
Probably between the top of the the block and the base, to give it more of a bow.Quote:
Originally Posted by sick_g4m3r
well no leaks to report and performing very wellQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
:D
in the loop i have GTS240, DDC2, Microres, Apogee, MCW60, 3/8" tubing..........chugging away at 3.8GHz with E6700 with 1.43V and GFX card not breaking a sweat past 43C :shocked: .....max core OC added only a single degree to the GPU >> 44C max temp :)
CPU ~62C (i have a hot LxxxBxxx stepping)
http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=4090
Your CPU is loading at 44C???? With a GFX card and an E6700 both on a GTS240??? Holy smokes, bowing must do wonders!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Just a question for a GTX what diameter O-ring does one need? I see alot of people saying go to HD to get one but I don't know the size and rather not tear apart my whole setup and bring my O-ring to find they don't have it at my HD.
With photos and links like that, the design of the new AC "flow killer" makes sense. Now, i know a lot of you guys see 1/4" or "small bore" cooling as :eek: :rolleyes: :rofl: :ROTF: :shakes: , but think about it - a correctly mounted block shoots cold water (okay, sorta cold after chamber one) DIRECTLY onto each core, thus making it (theoretically) superior to any other competitor.Quote:
Originally Posted by NEvolution
I suppose the idea of having an exact "contact area" - that being the entire base of the core milled out bar a small strip/square (C2Q/C2D respective) would provide the best force, but be off by a few MM, and you face failure.
So is the general consensus that bowing simply boosts performance by boosting pressure?
GPU i meant to say there of courseQuote:
Originally Posted by sick_g4m3r
you can always look at the link i provided
here is my post at i4memory for the lazy ones and if i back down to 3.6 1.32v and stess both GPU and CPU i get roughly the same loaded temps ~43-45C on BOTH CPU and GPU but if i only load the CPU and quick GFX stress program i get a true CPU stress temp which is another 5C higher or thereabouts
ok so i tested both GPU and CPU now and i am more than impressed.........look at the temps on the GPU :eek:
3.6Ghz 1.32V
8800GTS 320M stock clocks
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1...llfft30qo2.png
CPU on its own another 5C on top
650MHz on CORE
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/2...tesatitrg1.png
3DMARK06 TEMPS
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4...43cmaxlba7.png
compare those to my air cooled results
if ambient temps were linear according to that ambient sensor on the GFX card there would be something like 30C drop in load temps between air and water :eek:Quote:
another thing i couldn't do with Nautilus 500
3.8GHz 1.43v loaded smallFFT 1 Hour Stable
20C ambient with 8800GTS 100+Watt GFX in the loop :)
closed case
i will try 1.41v....should be able to do it
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/7...allfft1ge7.png
my e6600 already has a convex IHS, will bowing my fuzion be necessary? will it give me better temps? Out of Bowed, unblowed fuzion or bowed, unbowed Apeogee GT, which would give me the best temps?
Yes, EK O-ring on the top inlet...... IHS is lapped down to 1500 grit with w/d paper. It's not a mirror finish, but it doesn't need to be. It just needs to be flat ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sick_g4m3r
Idle is now 34-35C on both cores... down from 37-39C. Ambient is 75-76F. I'll do some more load testing in a few days, but after 9 hours of dual Orthos she was running at 54C-55C (coretemp & Intel TAT) on both cores w/ 1.41v.
You can't have the O-ring against the base directly. It will be interfering with flow through the pins. It must go between the inlet plate and the mid plate. The bow will transfer through the mid plate to the base.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] DragonOrta
OK, so I'm running a MP-05 LE right now. I have a G0 q6600 on pre-order. Were you in my shoes, would you change over to one of the 3 "bowable" WB's?:hm:
Unless you want to run ~5C hotter with the MP-05 LE for some strange reason :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by AMDfreak